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Post by Michael Coello on Apr 17, 2010 14:02:21 GMT -5
How does reactions on message boards affect being mainstream? Most things that are mainstream have their own "IWC" issues that don't affect the actual product.
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Post by AriadosMan on Apr 17, 2010 14:12:27 GMT -5
How does reactions on message boards affect being mainstream? Most things that are mainstream have their own "IWC" issues that don't affect the actual product. They don't have people online constantly complaining about their own "IWC" in most cases though. Only wrestling makes informed fans into some kind of bogeymen. |
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Post by Michael Coello on Apr 17, 2010 14:19:40 GMT -5
Actually, that seems to happen a lot. There usually are some parts of fandom that aren't liked as the other parts.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2010 1:05:52 GMT -5
Who else watches TNA? Surely not casual wrestling fans.
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Post by AriadosMan on Apr 18, 2010 1:46:23 GMT -5
Who else watches TNA? Surely not casual wrestling fans. The mythic mainstream audience that is perpetually waiting to turn on TNA next week, brother!!! |
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Post by livetowin on Apr 18, 2010 1:49:11 GMT -5
I'm sure it's been said already:
Don't be a dick to your most loyal fanbase by calling them morons. I don't even think Steinbrenner did that, and he's crazy!
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Post by golding on Apr 18, 2010 8:06:15 GMT -5
I hate the notion that if you post on a message board, you're automatically enlisted in some fruity group called the "IWC". I also ate at Mcdonalds yesterday, I guess I'm now in the Ronald Mcdonald Alliance. I breathe air, that makes me part of the Oxygen Inhaling Nation. I agree with this post. A couple years ago when I actually was more newz savvy and critical of what I watched by a business standpoint, internet wrestling fans had not yet become so arrogant to have given themselves an organizational name. The idea of "IWC" as a unit is funny enough, but the claims of hypocrisy against anyone who criticizes online groupthink are even funnier. It's as if you are a member of this IWC by virtue of watching wrestling while having an internet connection. Those aren't the people Bischoff is blasting... |
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Post by Michael Coello on Apr 18, 2010 10:51:17 GMT -5
Who else watches TNA? Surely not casual wrestling fans. There's 1.2 Million smarks? |
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Post by AriadosMan on Apr 18, 2010 11:01:35 GMT -5
If by "smark" you mean the classical definition of someone who watches and knows its fake, yes.
If by "smark" you simply mean "hardcore fan", that too.
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Post by blizz on Apr 18, 2010 11:04:18 GMT -5
LOL at the idea of calling the IWC on your facebook page. Does he not realize he's talking to the IWC? f***tard
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Post by Michael Coello on Apr 18, 2010 11:11:36 GMT -5
If by "smark" you mean the classical definition of someone who watches and knows its fake, yes. If by "smark" you simply mean "hardcore fan", that too. No, No, No, No, No. See, if that's true, and there's 1.2 Million smarks out there, then that means they take up about 15-20 percent of the total wrestling viewer audience. That's no possible. |
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Post by AriadosMan on Apr 18, 2010 11:13:14 GMT -5
If by "smark" you mean the classical definition of someone who watches and knows its fake, yes. If by "smark" you simply mean "hardcore fan", that too. No, No, No, No, No. See, if that's true, and there's 1.2 Million smarks out there, then that means they take up about 15-20 percent of the total wrestling viewer audience. That's no possible. Its very possible in an age when something like 80% of the population has some form of Internet access. Wrestling fans=young men People who like to use the internet alot=young men Because Carl Frederiksen sure as hell ain't watching TNA. |
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Post by dh03grad on Apr 18, 2010 12:14:35 GMT -5
If by "smark" you mean the classical definition of someone who watches and knows its fake, yes. If by "smark" you simply mean "hardcore fan", that too. No, No, No, No, No. See, if that's true, and there's 1.2 Million smarks out there, then that means they take up about 15-20 percent of the total wrestling viewer audience. That's no possible. Why isnt it? This is 2010, not 1995. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2010 14:17:28 GMT -5
Honestly, I'd go so far as to guess at least about 30% of WWE's audience consists of so-called smarks, so why not? Consider stuff like Cena, the Edge / Lita affair, Lesnar and Goldberg leaving...
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Post by Alex Shelley on Apr 19, 2010 16:05:31 GMT -5
Every time something like this happens it makes me more and more grateful for WWE.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2010 16:28:13 GMT -5
A million IWC is easy to imagine.
There are like 300 people on this board right now - in the middle of the day. People come and go throughout the day, but considering there's probably a different set of people who are on the in the evening and then late at night. There could be - COULD BE mind you - upwards of 1500 people on here total. Maybe more, maybe less. You don't think there's at least 500 boards out there where people discuss wrestling in some capacity if not solely dedicated to wrestling? Add in people who watch wrestling and are on FB . . .
With +/- for errors, its not unreal to think there's a million internet wrestling fans out there.
Christ man, probably more now that I think about it.
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Post by ICBM on Apr 19, 2010 16:30:20 GMT -5
Bischoff is right we suck...every one of us. ***sobs, blubbers and eats a handful of cheetos***
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Post by Andrew is Good on Apr 19, 2010 17:55:15 GMT -5
No, No, No, No, No. See, if that's true, and there's 1.2 Million smarks out there, then that means they take up about 15-20 percent of the total wrestling viewer audience. That's no possible. Its very possible in an age when something like 80% of the population has some form of Internet access. Wrestling fans=young men People who like to use the internet alot=young men Because Carl Frederiksen sure as hell ain't watching TNA. Actually, I gotta chime in in disagreement. I love South Park, Dr. Phil, Family Guy, among other things. I've never went on a message board for any of those things. Just because someone is a fan of something, doesn't mean they are going to follow it like people like myself, you, or anyone else does. That's the hardcore fan. Al Snow brought up Mr. and Mrs. Wal-mart. If people have the internet, and believe me, there are a lot of people who aren't that internet savvy, would they go on for wrestling? Bill Behrens talks about this a lot on his Who's Slamming Who podcast. TNA can be very short sighted in their advertising, in focusing more on the internet. Advertising Dixie Carter's twitter for example is only going to reach so many people. Not everyone uses twitter, and not everyone who uses twitter is going to follow Dixie Carter. So, anything she posts on her twitter is only going to get a small portion of the audience. I'm not in television, but the consensus seems to be that the amount of internet fans (I don't call them the IWC or smart marks, just internet fans, people who are prevalent on message boards, and follow people on twitter and facebook) is greatly exaggerated. This also comes from Al Snow and Raven's particular shoot interviews, and Bill Behrens on Who's Slamming Who (who has years of wrestling and more importantly, television production experience), just so I'm not talking out of my ass and claiming this to be information I know personally. A personal example is a co-worker of mine is also a fan of wrestling, a huge fan, goes to events, watches it whenever he can, but didn't know about FCW, or many of the places on the internet, except for maybe WWE.com. It's because he was just a fan, but he doesn't have an interest in going on different websites, like this one. When I think of internet fans, I think in the 10s of thousands, and maybe hundreds of thousands at the very most, but that's just a personal rough estimate, and probably isn't all that valid. However, 1 million is really pushing it. Maybe a number of different countries combined, but not one particular country. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2010 18:08:33 GMT -5
Damn, I just realized that there were nearly 7,000 people on this board alone in the past 24 hours!
I'd really like to see some hard numbers on this IWC thing. And I know that this board is relatively small compared to other wrestling forums.
I'm almost positive there are at least a million people in the IWC now.
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Post by Dr. Bunsen Honeydew on Apr 20, 2010 9:04:57 GMT -5
He also claimed that Jericho would never draw, meanwhile the "Eric Bischoff" show is drawing nothing compared Jericho. Eric also claimed that a guy only wearing "black trunks and boots"(Steve Austin) wouldn't draw either. Eric wouldn't know what draws if he was a fly. |
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