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Post by sportatorium on Apr 10, 2012 15:13:40 GMT -5
His aura would be long gone if they show footage of his gimmicks as a personal piercing/tattoo artist named after genital piercing or the dreaded backhair gimmick. He has had too many unintentionally homoerotic/leather looks to show if you want, silent Gaijin killer bought into Japanese culture as his new persona.
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Post by mrbananagrabber on Apr 10, 2012 16:39:01 GMT -5
They chanted "Albert" this week.
Next week they'll chant "Borrrrring."
He won't be on Raw the week after that.
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Post by kyromax on Apr 10, 2012 16:41:29 GMT -5
His boring matches will ruin him...
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Post by zeez on Apr 10, 2012 16:45:05 GMT -5
It shouldn't as long as his matches stop dragging so much.
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Post by Chilly McFreeze on Apr 10, 2012 16:50:26 GMT -5
It's a go-nowhere gimmick anyhow.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2012 16:57:14 GMT -5
What's the point of his manager, come to think of it? He doesn't coach him around or anything, he doesn't cheat for him (at least, not yet), he doesn't seem to be a mouthpiece and even if he was A-Train's fine on the mic as it is, and he really adds nothing to his aura or anything.
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Post by mrjl on Apr 10, 2012 17:24:07 GMT -5
I like Lord Tensai but I think he should change up his move set. Alot of his moves a basically finishers. The Under hook suplex thing, the back splash, the splash in the corner, the sitting choke bomb, The claw, the claw drop. it's just finisher after finisher . BTW, I like the idea of flat out announcing he was Albert then having a story about how he's a changed man. But because it's WWE that'll probably mean they'll give him Multiple personality disorder or something It surprises me someone is saying the double underhook should be a finish. Not in a bad way though, since I like the move |
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Apr 10, 2012 17:26:16 GMT -5
What's the point of his manager, come to think of it? He doesn't coach him around or anything, he doesn't cheat for him (at least, not yet), he doesn't seem to be a mouthpiece and even if he was A-Train's fine on the mic as it is, and he really adds nothing to his aura or anything. Essentially, he's a manservant. When the time comes, he'll be the guy blindsiding people on the outside and helping Tensai cheat. |
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Post by mrbananagrabber on Apr 10, 2012 19:47:24 GMT -5
Like the sign at Raw, "Brock Lesnar and A-Train return..... awkward."
After all, you've got a human killing machine in Brock Lesnar, who is every bit the legit monster heel. And then you've got Albert in a bath robe. Who did WWE think people were going to care about?
It's maybe too early to tell, but I'm calling it now - Lord Tensai will be a complete failure.
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Post by mrjl on Apr 10, 2012 19:51:07 GMT -5
Like the sign at Raw, "Brock Lesnar and A-Train return..... awkward." After all, you've got a human killing machine in Brock Lesnar, who is every bit the legit monster heel. And then you've got Albert in a bath robe. Who did WWE think people were going to care about? It's maybe too early to tell, but I'm calling it now - Lord Tensai will be a complete failure. Albert wasn't a complete failure despite many feeling he was just a hoss. Now he has a unique look and is a little better in the ring. There's no chance of it |
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Post by Tiger Maskooo on Apr 10, 2012 20:55:59 GMT -5
Like the sign at Raw, "Brock Lesnar and A-Train return..... awkward." After all, you've got a human killing machine in Brock Lesnar, who is every bit the legit monster heel. And then you've got Albert in a bath robe. Who did WWE think people were going to care about? It's maybe too early to tell, but I'm calling it now - Lord Tensai will be a complete failure. Albert wasn't a complete failure despite many feeling he was just a hoss. Now he has a unique look and is a little better in the ring. There's no chance of it I think he was. He was there for 5 years and despite getting the ic title and even a match with undertaker at mania he never really got over |
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Apr 11, 2012 2:13:22 GMT -5
What's the point of his manager, come to think of it? He doesn't coach him around or anything, he doesn't cheat for him (at least, not yet), he doesn't seem to be a mouthpiece and even if he was A-Train's fine on the mic as it is, and he really adds nothing to his aura or anything. Essentially, he's a manservant. When the time comes, he'll be the guy blindsiding people on the outside and helping Tensai cheat. Hopefully he starts hitting people with Mr. Fuji dust. |
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Apr 11, 2012 4:02:53 GMT -5
As hilarious as the Japanese jokes in this thread have gotten, I still just can't get over how WEIRD people are about this whole thing. When Kofi Kingston was EXPLICITLY announced as being from a different country than he actually is, there wasn't this eye-rolling uproar about COME ON WHY IS HE PRETENDING TO BE JAMAICAN? There's this whole weird vibe of racial/cultural purity embedded in all this... like it's more unacceptable and intelligence-insulting for a white guy to be immersed in Japanese culture (even though in real life he's lived in Japan for years) than it is a black guy from one country full of black people to act like he's from another country full of black people. I don't want to start any controversy in the thread, but there is a race aspect to that. Jamaican to Ghanaian isn't that bit a leap, lots of people have claimed to be from different countries, but when you play something from a different race there's an aspect lots of people feel uncomfortable with. There's a difference between Fritz von Erich being a Naiz, and Roddy Piper half blacking up. Though as has been pointed a lot, they're making sure they mention he's not Japanese a hell of a lot. |
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Post by Tiger Maskooo on Apr 11, 2012 10:36:07 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2012 10:57:28 GMT -5
Well.
I'm done trying to be creative and funny on the internet, for I will never live up to the ridiculous standards set by Tiger Maskooooo.
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Post by The Rager (Cole Miner) on Apr 11, 2012 11:18:08 GMT -5
The whole storyline revolving around the squash last night was basically that he was pretending to be Japanese. Maybe not 100%, but most of the way there. Despite them REPEATING over and over that "he's not Japanese"? What's your point here? He's not Japanese. He's an American pretending to be Japanese. |
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Post by mistressofpain on Apr 11, 2012 11:28:31 GMT -5
A-Train or not, it's still a generic ethnic heel gimmick in 2012. It's pretty much bound to flop either way. The real question is whether he can recover when it does.
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Post by "American Dragon" on Apr 11, 2012 12:06:55 GMT -5
I can't help but notcie he has mobility issues. When he hits some moves that require him to go to the ground especially the baldo bomb, he struggles to get up. It was really noticeable during his debut match. It looks bad. He could shed a about 15-30 pounds and work on his flexibility. I'm still a fan of the whole gimmick but as time passes my interest is fading.
Does he crack open a water package in his mouth before spitting mist into his hand? I'd like to see some color added to that.
However, I do not see this gimmick lasting...
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Post by mrjl on Apr 11, 2012 18:31:09 GMT -5
Despite them REPEATING over and over that "he's not Japanese"? What's your point here? He's not Japanese. He's an American pretending to be Japanese. No he's not. He does not believe he is a Japanese person. He is not trying to convince anyone he is a Japanese person. He is an American who has adapted himself to Japanese culture. THere is no pretending. It's like an immigrant assimilating to a new culture |
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Post by thecrusherwi on Apr 11, 2012 18:51:00 GMT -5
So we have a 5 page thread trying to fix a character, with a large section of the responses saying he's finished, when he's had 10 minutes of TV time. Hasn't even had a feud.
There's a reason at your job you don't have a performance review before you get your desk situated. Give it some time. We don't even know what the character is supposed to be yet...
...Except obviously a very white Japanese guy clearly from Japan and was born and raised in Japan and loves his Japanese heritage.
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