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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2012 10:58:38 GMT -5
Between Punk's promo where he said that nobody likes Lauranaitis and this Cena promo where he called Johnny a loser like an elementary school bully, I was wondering what the Be A Star campaign thought of our top babyfaces' actions. Yeah because Johnny Ace didn't make a 40 year old man to break down in the middle of the ring on tv and beg for his job earlier in the night or anything. Johnny didn't deserve that at all!!  I hated that segment as much as the next guy, but come on. Let's not pretend that Ace isn't an assclown that should have his ass kicked. |
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on May 15, 2012 11:02:12 GMT -5
I don't see what the issue is with Cena verbally tearing Ace apart. Laurinaitis isn't the victim that some people make him out to be.
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Post by ededdneddy on May 15, 2012 11:35:03 GMT -5
that was all hella retarded. Agree, I thought it was stupid and Cena's Ace Ventura bit was the worst....sorry I will never like the guy no matter how hard he tries or how much the WWE wants me too. |
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Post by Rave on May 15, 2012 11:45:21 GMT -5
It's like Vince watched Ace Ventura over the weekend and said "DAMNIT I WANT CENA TO DO THAT!" like it was some new thing or something. I have nothing against people who found it funny, but it just wasn't funny to me.
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Post by Hit Girl on May 15, 2012 12:03:16 GMT -5
It was an obnoxious promo.
As for Big Show, I just don't care about him, so I don't regard Johnny as being a heel in that regard. If anything, he came across to me as a guy who is firing a stale, unmotivated and boring performer, years past his usefulness.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on May 15, 2012 13:49:50 GMT -5
So is Cena rising above hate or not here?
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Post by MrBRulzOK on May 15, 2012 14:04:02 GMT -5
I thought it was funny how much fan support he got. It was the right time. He'd been SRS for the Lesnar thing, and parts of the Rock thing and people probably just wanted to see him have some fun again. The right time? The guy nearly got his arm broken by Laurinitis and Tensai. Honestly if that happened to me the last thing I would want to do when I came face to face with Johnny would be laugh and smile and make silly dated references and corny puns. I'm fine with Cena being less serious every now and then, but not when it undermines a feud. After all how can I invest myself in the story when the players don't care about anything that's happened to them. Yeah, part of the live crowd may have enjoyed the segment, but that doesn't mean the people watching at home did. |
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Post by sonofblaine on May 15, 2012 14:04:41 GMT -5
Plus I fail to see how fair it is for Johnny Ace to be fired for the loss at OTL when there's no precedent for it. Right because it's not like he reduced a grown man to tear and then fired him for simply making fun of his voice, it's not like he hired a psychopath MMA fighter and completely caved in to his demands (the same guy also broke the COOs arm), it's not like he is clearly bias toward certain guys and absolutely sucks at his job in every possibly way. No precedent for getting fired at all. Good point.  I forgot my wrestling universe logic for a moment there. Instead of Ace being taken before a board of directors and confronted, he's given a match. It's the same logic that makes it legal to make a woman/valet/girlfriend/etc the prize for a match and forced to go out with/stay the night/have sex with the winner, or instead of going to jail for hitting someone with a car, they get to have a match when that person recovers. |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2012 14:16:12 GMT -5
I thought it was funny how much fan support he got. It was the right time. He'd been SRS for the Lesnar thing, and parts of the Rock thing and people probably just wanted to see him have some fun again. The right time? The guy nearly got his arm broken by Laurinitis and Tensai. Honestly if that happened to me the last thing I would want to do when I came face to face with Johnny would be laugh and smile and make silly dated references and corny puns. I'm fine with Cena being less serious every now and then, but not when it undermines a feud. After all how can I invest myself in the story when the players don't care about anything that's happened to them. Yeah, part of the live crowd may have enjoyed the segment, but that doesn't mean the people watching at home did. John Cena's character undermining a feud?! UNHEARD OF! |
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Post by Cronant on May 15, 2012 14:17:17 GMT -5
I thought it was funny how much fan support he got. It was the right time. He'd been SRS for the Lesnar thing, and parts of the Rock thing and people probably just wanted to see him have some fun again. The right time? The guy nearly got his arm broken by Laurinitis and Tensai. Honestly if that happened to me the last thing I would want to do when I came face to face with Johnny would be laugh and smile and make silly dated references and corny puns. I'm fine with Cena being less serious every now and then, but not when it undermines a feud. After all how can I invest myself in the story when the players don't care about anything that's happened to them. Yeah, part of the live crowd may have enjoyed the segment, but that doesn't mean the people watching at home did. It doesn't undermine anything. After Rock and Lesnar, Johnny ACE should be a joke. He still wants to beat his ass, but he doesn't have to be SRS about it. |
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Post by Tiger Maskooo on May 15, 2012 14:26:53 GMT -5
The right time? The guy nearly got his arm broken by Laurinitis and Tensai. Honestly if that happened to me the last thing I would want to do when I came face to face with Johnny would be laugh and smile and make silly dated references and corny puns. I'm fine with Cena being less serious every now and then, but not when it undermines a feud. After all how can I invest myself in the story when the players don't care about anything that's happened to them. Yeah, part of the live crowd may have enjoyed the segment, but that doesn't mean the people watching at home did. It doesn't undermine anything. After Rock and Lesnar, Johnny ACE should be a joke. He still wants to beat his ass, but he doesn't have to be SRS about it. Oh he doesn't have to be serious. He's just largely incapable of being funny to alot of people so it'd be preferable that he was serious. Most of his attempts at humor are kinda just painful. Last nights promo was one of the most painful. It was uncomfortably bad. He doesnt have to take everything seriously but he doesn't have to suck either. |
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Post by Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill on May 15, 2012 14:31:20 GMT -5
It doesn't undermine anything. After Rock and Lesnar, Johnny ACE should be a joke. He still wants to beat his ass, but he doesn't have to be SRS about it. Oh he doesn't have to be serious. He's just largely incapable of being funny to alot of people so it'd be preferable that he was serious. Most of his attempts at humor are kinda just painful. Last nights promo was one of the most painful. It was uncomfortably bad. He doesnt have to take everything seriously but he doesn't have to suck either. If by "a lot of people" you mean "a handful of people on a wrestling forum." Then yes, Cena is incapable of being funny to a lot of people. |
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Post by MrBRulzOK on May 15, 2012 14:34:37 GMT -5
It doesn't undermine anything. After Rock and Lesnar, Johnny ACE should be a joke. He still wants to beat his ass, but he doesn't have to be SRS about it. Oh he doesn't have to be serious. He's just largely incapable of being funny to alot of people so it'd be preferable that he was serious. Most of his attempts at humor are kinda just painful. Last nights promo was one of the most painful. It was uncomfortably bad. He doesnt have to take everything seriously but he doesn't have to suck either. Exactly. Cena's style of humor is just so off-putting to alot of people. Sure, there are some people out there who might enjoy it, but I'd wager that there as many people out there who detest it immensely. Honestly I wouldn't have a problem with Cena being a little mocking of Johnny if there was a good reason for it, but there really wasn't. They could've at least had alluded to the fact that the board of directors called Cena earlier and informed him about their decision, even showed a skit with him simply answering his phone backstage. But instead it just conveniently happened while Cena was out there intentionally trying to piss him off and guranteeing that it wouldn't be a fair fight. Not to mention they went too far with Cena mocking him like that. In fact I'd say he was acting more obnoxious then ten big Johnny's combined during that segment. And alot the material was so cringeworthy that it made me despise the man. In fact I'd say it nearly undid all the sympathy they had generated earlier with the Big Show segment, at least with me. And I doubt I'm the only one. |
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Post by Metalheadbanger Man on May 15, 2012 14:35:57 GMT -5
Yeah, I found it irritating. But the fans seemed to be way into it, so what do I know.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on May 15, 2012 15:40:35 GMT -5
They were actually playing to the IWC, if the big news of his divorce didn't hit we would had a more traditional go-home segment for a PPV rather than a over the top happy Cena doing bad out dated comedy again. If Cena is super serious in that promo, he's upset about his upcoming divorce and it's effecting his work. If he's lighthearted, he's upset about his divorce and hiding his pain through humor. Ever since the news of him getting divorce got made public, everyone been micro-analyzing all his action more so than usual. Cena can't eat a hamburger without someone giving an analyse on his psyche. ..Or the segment just flat out sucked, was unfunny and went on way too long. I don't mind him telling jokes and being light-hearted, the problem is that his jokes absolutely suck. |
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Post by mrbananagrabber on May 15, 2012 16:21:36 GMT -5
It was awful. Just awful. Not only was it embarrassing and unfunny, it completely blew the hype of the PPV match. Why should WE care when it's clear John Cena doesn't?
I had kinda warmed to Cena a little bit over the last few months, but that f***ing HORRIBLE promo just made me despise him more than ever.
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Post by 4real on May 15, 2012 16:32:23 GMT -5
Sure Cena's promo was annoying in places but it achieved it's goal.
That RAW made Johnny out to be the lowest of the low and that's what it should have been. I should be willing Cena to kick his arse and strangely I hope he does. This is how you book a heel people. To be a complete dick.
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on May 15, 2012 17:27:03 GMT -5
Sure Cena's promo was annoying in places but it achieved it's goal. 90,000 domestic buys? Sounds about right. |
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Post by mrjl on May 15, 2012 18:38:50 GMT -5
It was an obnoxious promo. As for Big Show, I just don't care about him, so I don't regard Johnny as being a heel in that regard. If anything, he came across to me as a guy who is firing a stale, unmotivated and boring performer, years past his usefulness. unmotivated? You are aware that storyline wise in the past, I'd say ten months. Show has come back (kayfabe) from a devastating leg injury, won the world title in 9 seconds and won the IC title. |
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Post by mrjl on May 15, 2012 18:40:18 GMT -5
I thought it was funny how much fan support he got. It was the right time. He'd been SRS for the Lesnar thing, and parts of the Rock thing and people probably just wanted to see him have some fun again. The right time? The guy nearly got his arm broken by Laurinitis and Tensai. Honestly if that happened to me the last thing I would want to do when I came face to face with Johnny would be laugh and smile and make silly dated references and corny puns. I'm fine with Cena being less serious every now and then, but not when it undermines a feud. After all how can I invest myself in the story when the players don't care about anything that's happened to them. Yeah, part of the live crowd may have enjoyed the segment, but that doesn't mean the people watching at home did. you know what, he's talking directly to Ace there, not really to the fans. He could be serious. But being serious suggests respect. Why should he respect Johnny? |
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I forgot my wrestling universe logic for a moment there. Instead of Ace being taken before a board of directors and confronted, he's given a match. It's the same logic that makes it legal to make a woman/valet/girlfriend/etc the prize for a match and forced to go out with/stay the night/have sex with the winner, or instead of going to jail for hitting someone with a car, they get to have a match when that person recovers. 
