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Post by CrazySting on May 18, 2013 11:55:46 GMT -5
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Post by Banecat on May 18, 2013 12:28:03 GMT -5
That sucks for him, but honestly I can't share any sympathy towards his finacial plight. Millions and millions of Americans are in debt to our hospital/insurance system. Would anyone just randomly pay my hypothetical massive medical bill? Not a chance in hell.
Best wishes is all I can afford to give sorry.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on May 18, 2013 12:48:22 GMT -5
Jeez, you'd think TNA would cover his bills just for the PR. I remember years back Konnan had to do the same thing when he had medical problems.
Hopefully his tumor isn't cancerous and at least fans have given him over $3K now.
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Post by TK The Friendly Robot on May 18, 2013 12:52:27 GMT -5
Jeez, you'd think TNA would cover his bills just for the PR. I remember years back Konnan had to do the same thing when he had medical problems. Hopefully his tumor isn't cancerous and at least fans have given him over $3K now. I was just thinking that, while I am a fan of TNA I hate the fact that they don't cover their talent's medical bills. When they're not paying their wrestlers WWE money they at least need to cover medical, it's only fair.
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Post by Lance Uppercut on May 18, 2013 12:56:59 GMT -5
That sucks for him, but honestly I can't share any sympathy towards his finacial plight. Millions and millions of Americans are in debt to our hospital/insurance system. Would anyone just randomly pay my hypothetical massive medical bill? Not a chance in hell. Best wishes is all I can afford to give sorry. I have no ill will towards people who ask for help, and people who feel like helping out. Lots of Wrestling fans with too much money. Ask least this isn't an Amazon wish list. I mean, I can't bring myself to donate anything, just because I don't have a lot of disposable income and don't have much of an emotional interest in Zema Ion. But I have no problem with those that do. As long as no one busts out a guilt trip about "why aren't you donating?!"
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2013 12:57:29 GMT -5
Also, while I'm not saying they are obligated to do so, you have wrestlers employed by TNA like Angle and Hardy who, even with their various issues, are millionaires several times over. Plus, you know, Panda energy and all that. If you're a fan of the guy and want to help, that's wonderful and this is about as good a cause as you can imagine but I don't think fans should be the ones to cover it.
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Post by Celgress on May 18, 2013 13:10:06 GMT -5
Jeez, you'd think TNA would cover his bills just for the PR.... this
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Post by Dat Dude on May 18, 2013 13:39:40 GMT -5
Well I guess that answers my question about TNA covering his medical bills or not. You wanna consider yourself a "big league promotion" TNA? How about footing the bill like any other big league promotion does and has done in the past.
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Post by crowwreak was WRONG on May 18, 2013 15:24:02 GMT -5
Maybe they're going to do it but haven't gotten round to it yet?
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2013 15:30:30 GMT -5
The list of incentives seems to be missing.
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Post by CrazySting on May 18, 2013 16:11:14 GMT -5
Someone at the 411mania comments bit posted this in response to the Ion story. Could be BS, but who knows:
The James Storm thing, assuming it's true, is absolutely mental.
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Post by Andrew is Good on May 18, 2013 16:22:39 GMT -5
First thing.
AMERICA! f*** YEAH!
Second thing,
I do wish TNA would help the guy out a bit. They'll never be taken seriously as a national company if they have to have people begging for money and such to help someone with medical expenses.
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Post by slappy on May 18, 2013 16:28:05 GMT -5
That sucks for him, but honestly I can't share any sympathy towards his finacial plight. Millions and millions of Americans are in debt to our hospital/insurance system. Would anyone just randomly pay my hypothetical massive medical bill? Not a chance in hell. Best wishes is all I can afford to give sorry. There are charities and people out there who would help, yes. I hate when people complain about stuff like this. No one is forcing them to give him money so they should stop acting like he's sitting on their doorstep with a can pestering them every time they walk out their front door.
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Post by ________ has left the building on May 18, 2013 18:18:49 GMT -5
Things like this is why a number of wrestlers are gun shy about working for TNA. If you get hurt or ill, you're on your own. Hopefully TNA steps it up because this would be a very bad PR move for them.
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Post by kidglov3s on May 18, 2013 18:26:08 GMT -5
I wonder if it would be more or less scummy if TNA was like "See what you can get from fans, and we'll cover the difference." This seems very odd to me.
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Post by SOR on May 18, 2013 19:07:16 GMT -5
Not to be mean about this but isn't it a little embarrassing for Ion himself? I mean the dude is in his mid 20's you'd expect he had at least 30k in a rainy day fund considering he probably had a job before signing with TNA who probably pay him semi decently considering he works most shows not to mention the indy dates he receives. I think this is more of a case of "Adults should be more financially secure" rather than "TNA should pay the bills!" what you guys don't think about is if TNA pays this medical bill they need to pay every medical bill. Suddenly all these injuries start popping up and wrestlers could completely screw the system and fake injuries for financial benefit and con TNA out of thousands of dollars. Not to mention that TNA isn't even responsible for the injury why should they pay it? Because he works there? If I break my arm at home should my boss at the office pay my medical bills for me? Of course not. It's great his friends are helping but anyone who thinks TNA should pay this is being biased and silly. Someone at the 411mania comments bit posted this in response to the Ion story. Could be BS, but who knows: The James Storm thing, assuming it's true, is absolutely mental. I call B.S massively. AJ Styles has been in the big time for about 12 years now and is TNA's golden boy. He is not going to be trash can diving. Christian York receives a lot of indy dates and I assume Crimson probably does also. James Storm is another guy TNA would be looking after financially that is evidenced by the fact he doesn't take indy bookings.
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Post by CrazySting on May 18, 2013 19:10:19 GMT -5
Yeah, but after Taylor Wilde admitted she was caught working at Sunglass Hut WHILE Knockouts champion, is anything a surprise?
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Post by CrazySting on May 18, 2013 19:12:09 GMT -5
Not to be mean about this but isn't it a little embarrassing for Ion himself? I mean the dude is in his mid 20's you'd expect he had at least 30k in a rainy day fund considering he probably had a job before signing with TNA who probably pay him semi decently considering he works most shows not to mention the indy dates he receives. I think this is more of a case of "Adults should be more financially secure" rather than "TNA should pay the bills!" what you guys don't think about is if TNA pays this medical bill they need to pay every medical bill. Suddenly all these injuries start popping up and wrestlers could completely screw the system and fake injuries for financial benefit and con TNA out of thousands of dollars. Not to mention that TNA isn't even responsible for the injury why should they pay it? Because he works there? If I break my arm at home should my boss at the office pay my medical bills for me? Of course not. It's great his friends are helping but anyone who thinks TNA should pay this is being biased and silly. It's notoriously difficult for pro wrestlers to get health insurance. There's probably more to it than "he just didn't want to bother."
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Post by SOR on May 18, 2013 19:22:15 GMT -5
Yeah, but after Taylor Wilde admitted she was caught working at Sunglass Hut WHILE Knockouts champion, is anything a surprise? Well that was when TNA was running few House Shows and every show was out of Universal. These days I would think a TNA Wrestlers could survive on what TNA gives them considering TNA does at least 4 House Shows a month, 4 tapings and a PPV. Not to be mean about this but isn't it a little embarrassing for Ion himself? I mean the dude is in his mid 20's you'd expect he had at least 30k in a rainy day fund considering he probably had a job before signing with TNA who probably pay him semi decently considering he works most shows not to mention the indy dates he receives. I think this is more of a case of "Adults should be more financially secure" rather than "TNA should pay the bills!" what you guys don't think about is if TNA pays this medical bill they need to pay every medical bill. Suddenly all these injuries start popping up and wrestlers could completely screw the system and fake injuries for financial benefit and con TNA out of thousands of dollars. Not to mention that TNA isn't even responsible for the injury why should they pay it? Because he works there? If I break my arm at home should my boss at the office pay my medical bills for me? Of course not. It's great his friends are helping but anyone who thinks TNA should pay this is being biased and silly. It's notoriously difficult for pro wrestlers to get health insurance. There's probably more to it than "he just didn't want to bother." I'm not saying he should of had insurance I'm saying he should have 30k in the bank so that he doesn't have to come and ask the fans for money. He's been in the big time for 2 years and is apparently a Journalism major so the guy should be financially secure. It isn't TNA's fault that he isn't financially secure and can't afford medical bills.
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Post by OGJB is Slender on May 18, 2013 19:24:49 GMT -5
Not to be mean about this but isn't it a little embarrassing for Ion himself? I mean the dude is in his mid 20's you'd expect he had at least 30k in a rainy day fund considering he probably had a job before signing with TNA who probably pay him semi decently considering he works most shows not to mention the indy dates he receives. I think this is more of a case of "Adults should be more financially secure" rather than "TNA should pay the bills!" what you guys don't think about is if TNA pays this medical bill they need to pay every medical bill. Suddenly all these injuries start popping up and wrestlers could completely screw the system and fake injuries for financial benefit and con TNA out of thousands of dollars. Not to mention that TNA isn't even responsible for the injury why should they pay it? Because he works there? If I break my arm at home should my boss at the office pay my medical bills for me? Of course not. It's great his friends are helping but anyone who thinks TNA should pay this is being biased and silly. Not everybody has 30k just lying around. Assuming TNA pays him semi decently is a big leap to make, especially with all the stories out there of TNA talent not being paid hardly anything and Zema ain't exactly a big name.
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