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Post by CrazySting on Aug 23, 2013 19:12:45 GMT -5
WWE wouldn't pay AJ more then TNA does. I wouldn't be so sure about that. Even if his base is lower, just being on 1 WWE PPV would give him a bonus more that TNA could ever dream of paying him, especially with TNA cutting back. Also, the royalties for the WWE video games are meant to be a huge amount. People get something like $50,000 if they make it into the game.
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Post by gnr123 on Aug 23, 2013 19:17:14 GMT -5
Even if he went to WWE, he still would need at least 8 months to a year in development. There is no way their to throw him on the main roster in 2 months after he's never worked in front of crowd of over 10,000. It's not happening. He's already 36, they keep him in developmental until 37, then what? He's not a star, he's not good on the microphone, can he even play a character?
And I noticed someone earlier mentioned a Ric Flair type scenario. Ric Flair was "the man" in NWA, he was the biggest name not in WWE at the time. To compare AJ Styles to Ric Flair, there's no comparison between the two. AJ Styles is a midcarder in the distant number two company. Sure he's won a few of TNA's main title's, but he's not the face of the company.
And yes, he will be in developmental and yes, he will have to climb the ladder.
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Post by SOR on Aug 23, 2013 19:51:38 GMT -5
There is no way their to throw him on the main roster in 2 months after he's never worked in front of crowd of over 10,000. Sell out. Maximum capacity? 12,500. That's a little over 10,000 also but not much. Doesn't WWE draw like 5000-6000 for TV anyway? I saw a photo a few months back and they barely had 3000 in the building. I'm sure AJ would be fine working in front of a big WrestleMania type crowd
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Post by Red Impact on Aug 23, 2013 20:37:58 GMT -5
From the last figures I saw, WWE went between 6-10 thousands for Raw, depending on the venue. Smackdown was lower and of course the house shows are going to be lower as well, depending on the venue. Mania is an entirely different world.
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Post by Glitch on Aug 23, 2013 20:55:51 GMT -5
There is no way their to throw him on the main roster in 2 months after he's never worked in front of crowd of over 10,000. Sell out. Maximum capacity? 12,500. That's a little over 10,000 also but not much. Doesn't WWE draw like 5000-6000 for TV anyway? I saw a photo a few months back and they barely had 3000 in the building. I'm sure AJ would be fine working in front of a big WrestleMania type crowd Yeah, there isn't that much of a difference. And I wonder what exactly the difference between performing between those two crowds is supposed to be?
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Post by Hit Girl on Aug 23, 2013 21:07:57 GMT -5
Bryan vs Styles at Wrestlemania XXX
Enticing prospect. Even Dixie would buy that PPV
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Aug 23, 2013 21:15:55 GMT -5
I'd be OK with him in WWE, as long as he was "(something else) Styles". Ugh...the huge ass AJ on his side kinda makes that impossible, doesn't it?
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Post by Error on Aug 23, 2013 21:17:31 GMT -5
I'd be OK with him in WWE, as long as he was "(something else) Styles". Ugh...the huge ass AJ on his side kinda makes that impossible, doesn't it? They could put him in a top like he's worn as No1 AJ.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Aug 23, 2013 21:18:25 GMT -5
He'll have to wear something like MVP wore in WWE, to cover up his homage tattoo to AJ Lee Hmmm...white MVP gimmick? White MVP gimmick. "I'm half-man, half Phenomenal!"
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Aug 23, 2013 21:20:07 GMT -5
Ugh...the huge ass AJ on his side kinda makes that impossible, doesn't it? They could put him in a top like he's worn as No1 AJ. I suppose but that wasn't really a flattering look, IMO.
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Post by sunnytaker on Aug 23, 2013 21:37:05 GMT -5
they'd give him some goofy name like Alfred Jenkins Styles to explain the tatoo. oh and AJ Lee will choose her as her next victim because he;s obviously so into her that he tatooed her initials on him. she can cling to his left side and say "see Alfred, you're in the middle of an AJ sandwich now." <tilts her head and smiles crazily>
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Aug 23, 2013 22:20:26 GMT -5
But he's got a family to take care of and money talks when you're entering the end of your career. WWE wouldn't pay AJ more then TNA does. WWE made Matt Hardy a multimillionaire. What did Matt have going for him that AJ doesn't? - Could he work a good match? Yes, and I think AJ is just as good as Matt was when he more or less had the match of the week every week on Smackdown. - Could he talk well? Only occasionally. AJ is no worse than Matt ever was.- Could he connect with the crowds? Yes, but AJ sure seems to do so as well.- Could he entertain the crowd with a goofy character if called upon to do so? I sure enjoyed V1, and I think a lot of people did as well. I also got something of a kick out of goofy, redneck heel AJ that followed Karen around like a puppy dog.- Could he wrestle a highly exciting style? Not for some time, but AJ certainly still can.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2013 22:26:26 GMT -5
Bryan vs Styles at Wrestlemania XXX Enticing prospect. Even Dixie would buy that PPV Eh, I'd rather see Bryan continue to battle the WWE machine in a featured match than take on a new guy in a curtain jerker match that will probably get 7 minutes.
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Post by SOR on Aug 23, 2013 22:27:55 GMT -5
WWE wouldn't pay AJ more then TNA does. WWE made Matt Hardy a multimillionaire. What did Matt have going for him that AJ doesn't? - Could he work a good match? Yes, and I think AJ is just as good as Matt was when he more or less had the match of the week every week on Smackdown. - Could he talk well? Only occasionally. AJ is no worse than Matt ever was.- Could he connect with the crowds? Yes, but AJ sure seems to do so as well.- Could he entertain the crowd with a goofy character if called upon to do so? I sure enjoyed V1, and I think a lot of people did as well. I also got something of a kick out of goofy, redneck heel AJ that followed Karen around like a puppy dog.- Could he wrestle a highly exciting style? Not for some time, but AJ certainly still can. Not a fair comparison. Hardy was in his 20's during the hottest period in all of wrestling and was around for over 10 years. AJ hasn't got 10 years left for a WWE run and the business is down entirely so the pay off's wouldn't be incredible. I love AJ he's one of my favourites from TNA, Hell his match was MOTN on the very first show I ever attended live but if he goes to WWE he'd be a Midcarder at best and probably would get jobbed endlessly to give a subtle "f*** you" to TNA.
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Post by cabbageboy on Aug 23, 2013 22:31:48 GMT -5
Yeah, I was shocked to read that Styles is 36. He's kind of in a bind here. In reality he should have just taken the WWE bait years ago, paid some dues in developmental, and he'd probably either be a fairly big WWE star right now or it might not have worked out and he could have cashed a few bigger paychecks and been back in TNA anyway.
I bet he ends up staying in TNA at the end of the day.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2013 22:38:22 GMT -5
Sell out. Maximum capacity? 12,500. That's a little over 10,000 also but not much. Doesn't WWE draw like 5000-6000 for TV anyway? I saw a photo a few months back and they barely had 3000 in the building. I'm sure AJ would be fine working in front of a big WrestleMania type crowd Yeah, there isn't that much of a difference. And I wonder what exactly the difference between performing between those two crowds is supposed to be? There is no difference. TNA doesn't wrestle in high school gyms. They go to real arenas and get a few thousand a show, much like a typical Raw or Smackdown taping that is not held in a 20k seat arena. People making it seem like Styles would be out of his element and actually needs "training" in order to be in the WWE is ridiculous. He doesn't need it. He will have to go to developmental because that is how the WWE operates nowadays, not because wrestling in TNA is totally different. With that said, Styles has too much to lose to jump. Even if he makes more money, if he ends up flopping miserably, then the mainstream wrestling audience will know him as whatever name WWE gave him, and then his value to TNA diminishes. If he makes the jump, he better be sure that his new name is not terrible and he ends up carving at least a mid-card career. I don't think that's very likely, to be honest. Styles is a world title contender in TNA. He will be no big deal in the WWE. If the money is even remotely close, it's a no brainer to stay in TNA.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2013 22:42:53 GMT -5
Even if he went to WWE, he still would need at least 8 months to a year in development. There is no way their to throw him on the main roster in 2 months after he's never worked in front of crowd of over 10,000. It's not happening. He's already 36, they keep him in developmental until 37, then what? He's not a star, he's not good on the microphone, can he even play a character? And I noticed someone earlier mentioned a Ric Flair type scenario. Ric Flair was "the man" in NWA, he was the biggest name not in WWE at the time. To compare AJ Styles to Ric Flair, there's no comparison between the two. AJ Styles is a midcarder in the distant number two company. Sure he's won a few of TNA's main title's, but he's not the face of the company. And yes, he will be in developmental and yes, he will have to climb the ladder. Daniel Bryan had like one match in developmental. AJ has wrestled on as big a stage as Bryan did before coming to the E. I don't think he would need to spend substantial time in developmental. But with their new mantra of having a storyline in place for new debuts, it might be a while before they find the right spot.
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Post by Clawley Race on Aug 24, 2013 1:47:09 GMT -5
Wade Barrett's "special" brother Jeff?
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Post by Slammy Award-Winning Cannibal on Aug 24, 2013 2:31:52 GMT -5
AJ isn't going anywhere.
New name. New gimmick. Paying dues in NXT. Paying dues in WWE.
He's 36 and by the time he shows up on NXT TV he'd be almost 37. Gimme a break.
Will never ever happen.
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Post by Red Impact on Aug 24, 2013 8:45:47 GMT -5
Even if he went to WWE, he still would need at least 8 months to a year in development. There is no way their to throw him on the main roster in 2 months after he's never worked in front of crowd of over 10,000. It's not happening. He's already 36, they keep him in developmental until 37, then what? He's not a star, he's not good on the microphone, can he even play a character? And I noticed someone earlier mentioned a Ric Flair type scenario. Ric Flair was "the man" in NWA, he was the biggest name not in WWE at the time. To compare AJ Styles to Ric Flair, there's no comparison between the two. AJ Styles is a midcarder in the distant number two company. Sure he's won a few of TNA's main title's, but he's not the face of the company. And yes, he will be in developmental and yes, he will have to climb the ladder. Daniel Bryan had like one match in developmental. AJ has wrestled on as big a stage as Bryan did before coming to the E. I don't think he would need to spend substantial time in developmental. But with their new mantra of having a storyline in place for new debuts, it might be a while before they find the right spot. Because WWE had NXT, which was really just a step up from developmental but still not main roster. It was designed to be a final polishing area, and it's pretty much gone now. I'm sure the way Sin Cara turned out is going to make it harder to skip that whole process, not to mention that they'd have to work out a way to bring him up. It's not that he needs it for the talent aspect, but he'd still spend time there. I think the only person who hasn't been in WWE before who would skip it now would be Sting.
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