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Post by andrew8798 on Mar 5, 2017 16:23:54 GMT -5
Movie did 85 million this weekend
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2017 16:52:35 GMT -5
{Spoiler}I saw the trailers expecting to get emotionally wrecked. Didn't expect to actually get wrecked I thought it would be temporarily fake out wrecks. Also the ending {Spoiler}I know the main take away was the cross turning into an X representing the last of the X-Men. But the way the camera was angled with the stones and the recently dugged grave and the X looked like a trench. Only fitting for a man who has fought in almost every war and is constantly in a war. Even when he isn't fighting he's fighting himself. The last shot was so beautiful it unexpectedly hit me. Just perfect
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Post by Rican on Mar 5, 2017 18:04:29 GMT -5
Just came back from seeing it. I liked it a lot. Fitting end for the character.
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Post by Citizen Snips on Mar 5, 2017 19:31:20 GMT -5
I liked it. Felt more like a Western than a typical superhero movie. Jackman and Stewart really went out in a blaze of glory. Dafne Keen gets all the credit in the world for more than holding her own in only her second credited role and first film appearance. Only nitpicking I really had was I preferred the guy who played Caliban in X-Men: Apocalypse. Not a knock on Merchant's performance, just liked the other dude better. {Spoiler}I also thought Dr. Rice should have gotten Pierce's death. It would have been more fitting for the guy who effectively wiped out the mutant race to be taken care of by its only remaining hopes. Pierce could've been hacked apart by X-23.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Mar 6, 2017 11:38:44 GMT -5
I wonder why all of the kids were X-23's (Laura was X-23-44). I wonder what the other X's were between Logan and them.
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Post by The Unconquered Sun on Mar 6, 2017 16:56:42 GMT -5
Just saw it.
Hey Zack Snyder, you know that grim, broken heroes, deconstructed comic book movie you wanted to make? That's how you make it WITHOUT it being a big pile of burning crap.
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Post by Lazy peon on Mar 7, 2017 9:03:20 GMT -5
I loved it, one of my top five superhero movies.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Mar 7, 2017 9:31:17 GMT -5
Just saw it. Hey Zack Snyder, you know that grim, broken heroes, deconstructed comic book movie you wanted to make? That's how you make it WITHOUT it being a big pile of burning crap. So what you're saying is that you should do your homework on the character, understand them and their motivations, and not completely shit all over them? It's just crazy enough that it could be a formula for success.
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Post by Jazzman on Mar 7, 2017 17:26:18 GMT -5
Just saw it, the scene that got me most emotional was {Spoiler}the shot of the kid holding the Wolverine figure after burying him. For someone whose favorite superhero growing up was Wolverine and seeing all the different X movies in all their good in bad, that scene in the spoilers just got me. To finally see your favorite hero get the story he deserved, well it's moving. Thanks Hugh for the last 17 years, it's been real.
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Post by "Trickster Dogg" James Jesse on Mar 7, 2017 17:55:12 GMT -5
This was pretty decent. And yet... {Spoiler}It's fine as a stand-alone film that only maybe connects to the other movies. Or not. I don't think it matters too much to the story itself, other than the allusions about how the X-Men died and who in particular was killed off.
But a lot of the 'adult' aesthetic of this movie felt really juvenile, and it seems like Fox learned the wrong lesson from Deadpool, creatively speaking (although, hey, the movie's gonna make some bank, just like Deadpool). For some reason, on the internet, people have this idea that 'R-rated' automatically equals 'good', which is an assumption that should be challenged. Most of the profanity felt superfluous, not unlike a child learning a curse word for the first time, who then repeats it until the word loses all meaning. The one bit of nudity was so tame that it doesn't even rise to the level of brief titillation, and functions like a ham-fisted inclusion to justify the rating beyond the profanity threshold. And most of the violence/gore happens so quickly that it doesn't have as much of an impact as it should (especially given some of the things that Wolverine says throughout the movie, especially in the one scene where Logan and Laura talk about their nightmares).
The ending is probably the best adult thing about the movie because it's open-ended. It could be read as a happy ending, sort of, because maybe the kids made it across the border (we assume), but it could also be read as a downer ending because we just don't know for sure since we never see that moment happen.
Some surprisingly hot-button, timely thematics in the film too, about people trying to cross borders to flee from oppression, douchey tribal tattoo white bros inflicting violence against people of colour, that middle America basically already is the post-apocalypse, although having an Australian actor who plays a Canadian character at the heart of this story is certainly a different take.
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Post by "Trickster Dogg" James Jesse on Mar 7, 2017 21:01:10 GMT -5
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Mar 9, 2017 14:17:28 GMT -5
Bingo. Everyone's trying to make it fit with all the other films and there's no point: As someone (I forget who) pointed out in another thread way, way back there, it's the most X-Men thing ever to have several timelines and alternate futures all going all at once. In the books, DOFP, Cable and Bishop aren't all part of the same future; same thing here. Logan and movie DOFP aren't linear and the former may have not even run on the same timeline as any of the movies we've seen so far. They should make that more clear. Movies are supposed to be better than that, especially since we're using the same actors here. But then the complaint would be "Why do these movies feel like they have to hold the audiences hands and insult our intelligence? It's stupid!" Nah, this movie was fine, and it makes sense.
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Post by Red Impact on Mar 9, 2017 15:25:43 GMT -5
{Spoiler}Saw it last night.
It was OK. Best of the Wolverine trilogy, for certain, probably second or third best of the X-men movies.
The X-24 twist was a nice surprise, but it was the only real surprise in the movie. I thought the rest was pretty heavily telegraphed. That alone isn't necessarily a bad thing, and it wasn't badly executed. But it didn't blow me away with anything and parts made me roll my eyes.
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Post by chazraps on Mar 9, 2017 15:44:39 GMT -5
They should make that more clear. Movies are supposed to be better than that, especially since we're using the same actors here. But then the complaint would be "Why do these movies feel like they have to hold the audiences hands and insult our intelligence? It's stupid!" Nah, this movie was fine, and it makes sense. Nobody would complain as this is an error that still exists in the present film. How is there any way at all an implication that it's non-canon?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2017 15:50:32 GMT -5
But then the complaint would be "Why do these movies feel like they have to hold the audiences hands and insult our intelligence? It's stupid!" Nah, this movie was fine, and it makes sense. Nobody would complain as this is an error that still exists in the present film. How is there any way at all an implication that it's non-canon? It's not an error. The filmmaker wanted to make a standalone film. It seems pretty clear that he did by omitting overt references to other films. General backstory stuff was supplied, but nothing that hinged on having seen previous films. If they bent over backwards to make it "fit" somewhere, it would have thrown the movie off. Not everything needs to be perfectly placed in canon somewhere. That's a more recent byproduct of superhero films all needing to be connected so intimately. It's not even a sequel really, just a stand alone film using these characters.
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Mar 9, 2017 16:28:06 GMT -5
Exactly. I vastly prefer the things Mangold did to make the movie feel self-contained, as opposed to some flashing neon "THIS ISN'T CANON" sign somewhere.
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Post by The Unconquered Sun on Mar 9, 2017 18:46:36 GMT -5
Yeah, in a comic series that followed Days of Future Past, Age of Apocalypse, Bishop's future, Old Man Logan, Earth X, not to mention about 100 What If... stories, why should the films be tied down to just one time line?
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Post by StuntGranny® on Mar 10, 2017 11:17:09 GMT -5
PSA: There is a meme floating around on the digital shit pile known as Facebook that spoils the end of this movie. If you're like me and haven't watched it yet, it's a "I remember when these where in my lunchbox!" and below the pictures of food is spoilers for the movie. Just wanted to warn everyone. This concludes the PSA.
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Post by andrew8798 on Mar 10, 2017 22:21:38 GMT -5
Saw it today was pretty good. If I had to ranked it would put it behind DOFP {Spoiler}People weren't kidding when they said it's rough when Logan died.
Also What did Charles say to him right before he died I couldn't make it out
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Post by y4j1981 on Mar 11, 2017 11:49:22 GMT -5
just for the heck of it now: Patrick Stewart and his new rescue pit-bull, Ginger.
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