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Post by dav on Feb 20, 2017 6:44:03 GMT -5
Also, FF9's class system just feels so confining in comparison to the much more fluid magic/class abilities of VII and VIII. Huh... there's no class "system". The class is already defined. You have a thief, a black mage, two white mages, a warrior/knight, a "blue mage", a monk and a dragoon. That's it. A class system would imply that you could somehow alter the class at some point, which isn't the case. Ah, I've just always called it that way, as innaccurate as it might well be. Regardless, never really cared for how they handled the classes in that game.
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Post by Joker on Feb 20, 2017 7:54:43 GMT -5
Yeah there is something odd about the N64 and its era, where a huge amount of games just seem to age rather than become retro cool (unlike a lot of snes and megadrive games.)
I was trying to think of games that aren't aging well instead of games that came out a long time ago. The main answer I come across for myself is fifa and pro evo sports games not because they are bad or the graphics have become crap, but because it doesn't matter to me which footballer i'm controlling the games are all the same since the xbox one era onward. SO they are ageing in a historical footnote kind of way which is much worse than say Assassin's Creed 2.
At least with a game like Assassin's Creed 2 or Oblivion I will remember the story, fifa and it's ilk I will remember nothing.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Feb 20, 2017 11:13:02 GMT -5
Yeah there is something odd about the N64 and its era, where a huge amount of games just seem to age rather than become retro cool (unlike a lot of snes and megadrive games.) It's partially because good Sprite graphics will pretty much always look good. 3d graphics on the other hand tend to age pretty damned quickly... especially if they aren't stylized.
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Post by vanhyden on Feb 20, 2017 13:31:20 GMT -5
Earthbound (Mother) - It's A Classic on almost every list, but really slow to death
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Feb 20, 2017 15:05:11 GMT -5
The first two Thief games (The Dark Project and The Metal Age) were always my favorite games of all time. And even though the storyline is still for my money unmatched, the graphics have not aged well.
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Post by StuntGranny® on Feb 20, 2017 15:43:16 GMT -5
Resident Evil and Mario 64. I recently tried playing both and just couldn't stand it. I loved them both as a kid, but they're unplayable for me now.
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Feb 20, 2017 21:12:26 GMT -5
Yeah there is something odd about the N64 and its era, where a huge amount of games just seem to age rather than become retro cool (unlike a lot of snes and megadrive games.) It's partially because good Sprite graphics will pretty much always look good. 3d graphics on the other hand tend to age pretty damned quickly... especially if they aren't stylized. At least Mischief Makers still looks and plays fantastially
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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on Feb 22, 2017 6:11:48 GMT -5
For me, it'd be something like Red Faction. Blowing through walls, etc, was novel and all, but the rest of it can be a real slog now. Honestly I found the first two RF games to be a massive disappointments and it wasn't until the 3rd game where the series started to live up to its potential.
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 22, 2017 6:16:42 GMT -5
For me, it'd be something like Red Faction. Blowing through walls, etc, was novel and all, but the rest of it can be a real slog now. Honestly I found the first two RF games to be a massive disappointments and it wasn't until the 3rd game where the series started to live up to its potential. Yeah, they were never amazing or something, but back when the PS2 came out, it wasn't the sort of thing we were used to seeing, at least on consoles, that level of environment destruction. It was mostly gimmick.
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Post by DoubleDare on Feb 22, 2017 12:44:03 GMT -5
All the nes games where you have to rapidly press, left, right, left, right, or between a and b to make a character run.
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Post by trollrogue on Feb 22, 2017 16:33:46 GMT -5
Yeah there is something odd about the N64 and its era, where a huge amount of games just seem to age rather than become retro cool (unlike a lot of snes and megadrive games.) It's partially because good Sprite graphics will pretty much always look good. 3d graphics on the other hand tend to age pretty damned quickly... especially if they aren't stylized. Particularly true for the N64 polygons, I remember slowly growing to hate the 'grainy' look that all 64 games had and comparing Mario Kart 64 to the 3D graphics of a PS1 title like Xenogears, things hold up MUCH better with CD-based-graphics.
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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on Feb 28, 2017 6:15:25 GMT -5
Well its a good thing that the first Halo game has been remade twice as the original Xbox version looks hideous and really doesn't play that well.
Though I've noticed a few people have mentioned the original 2D Mortal Kombat games, but I would rather consider them having less aged badly and more just not being very good in the first place. That and the success of the MK game can be contributed to as a case of infirmary over quality and if it wasn't for blood and fatalities it would of be soon forgotten.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Feb 28, 2017 10:50:33 GMT -5
Well its a good thing that the first Halo game has been remade twice as the original Xbox version looks hideous and really doesn't play that well. Though I've noticed a few people have mentioned the original 2D Mortal Kombat games, but I would rather consider them having less aged badly and more just not being very good in the first place. That and the success of the MK game can be contributed to as a case of infirmary over quality and if it wasn't for blood and fatalities it would of be soon forgotten. I agree, I remember the controls being crap even then, especially in comparison to Street Fighter
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 12:56:12 GMT -5
I think donkey kon 64 might have for me at least. I only played 20 mins of it when I downloaded on wii u but the camera and controls don't seem that good. I'll try again sometime and give it a couple hours
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Feb 28, 2017 13:35:11 GMT -5
For me, it'd be something like Red Faction. Blowing through walls, etc, was novel and all, but the rest of it can be a real slog now. Honestly I found the first two RF games to be a massive disappointments and it wasn't until the 3rd game where the series started to live up to its potential. Red Faction 3 was the open world one? Or was it the one before? The open world one was one of my favourite games. The amount of destructibility was fantastic, unfortunately I remember they took a step back with the sequel and stuck you in tunnels again which really limited what you could destroy.
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Mar 1, 2017 2:24:45 GMT -5
Honestly I found the first two RF games to be a massive disappointments and it wasn't until the 3rd game where the series started to live up to its potential. Red Faction 3 was the open world one? Or was it the one before? The open world one was one of my favourite games. The amount of destructibility was fantastic, unfortunately I remember they took a step back with the sequel and stuck you in tunnels again which really limited what you could destroy. Yep, RF: Guerilla was the open-world game, I loved it if only for how over the top the destruction physics were
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Post by No Longer a Produceman on Mar 1, 2017 12:25:28 GMT -5
No! I loved that game! Do you think perhaps it's more that car combat games just seem so limited and one dimensional compared to what we've become accustomed to? For me the main thing was the vehicle controls felt awkward. I'm used to the more fluid style of modern games. I just couldn't get to grips with them at all. Also graphics wise it looked very dated. I think a proper PS4 Twisted Metal would be fun. The controls weren't great, but they were definitely a vast improvement over the shitty controls of 3 & 4. 989 Studios damn near killed the Twisted Metal franchise for me
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Mar 1, 2017 13:02:45 GMT -5
Pokemon Gen 1.
Fire Red an Leaf Green are great, but RBY are almost hilariously unbalanced.
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Post by Ash Kingston on Mar 1, 2017 22:49:22 GMT -5
Pokemon Gen 1. Fire Red an Leaf Green are great, but RBY are almost hilariously unbalanced. Let's not talk crazy here. RBY was hilariously unbalanced, no 'almost' about it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2017 22:55:25 GMT -5
Pokemon Gen 1. Fire Red an Leaf Green are great, but RBY are almost hilariously unbalanced. Let's not talk crazy here. RBY was hilariously unbalanced, no 'almost' about it. Yeah psychic types had no weaknesses in the first gen right?
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