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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2019 23:32:10 GMT -5
I genuinely don't know at this point myself. On one hand... Ronda clearly can't handle it when things go off the rails and it would suck if the match fell apart like the Bayley one tonight did.
On the other, I feel like the story doesn't at all need her presence and that there's much more of one to tell with Asuka defending against her.
So... Yeah, I dunno.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Jan 28, 2019 23:33:17 GMT -5
Hell to the no.
Ronda's on the way out. Make Becky a megastar without Charlotte butting her big head in.
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Post by Dub H on Jan 28, 2019 23:35:31 GMT -5
The way I see you alrady have gold and a main event worthy match with Ronda vs Becky. If you be greedy and try to add Charlotte ,it is a gamble if it helps or hurts.Personally I think it would detract as I'm sure many already know
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jan 28, 2019 23:35:53 GMT -5
She shouldn't, but I can live with it if she was.
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Post by GuyOfOwnage on Jan 28, 2019 23:40:22 GMT -5
Never have I had better use for this clip:
1. The hottest act in the company doesn't need an unwelcome third wheel shoehorned in. They made that mistake by having Batista in the WM30 main event, I don't want to see that happen again.
2. Asuka's back on a hot streak, and who better to decisively beat than the one who ended it last time?
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Post by Rican on Jan 28, 2019 23:40:39 GMT -5
Absolutely not. It validates Becky’s initial complaint that she gets handed everything and takes away from Becky’s spotlight.
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Post by Brooklynpunk97 on Jan 28, 2019 23:43:56 GMT -5
Absolutely not.
There is no other feud that has this amount of intrigue, hype and tension. Adding anyone else would completely diminish the match.
I honestly haven't watched WWE consistently since CM punk left but Becky Lynch has brought me back to wanting to watch every Monday just to see what she does.
The only thing I'm worried about is that we have eight more Raws to go before WrestleMania. And knowing Vince and the WWEs track record I fully expect them to f*** around and completely f*** up their own show.
Whether it's adding Charlotte into the main event or making Becky and Ronda, godforbid, cut horrible cringe-inducing promos to kill the heat. This company has consistently shown that they have zero foresight and don't give a s*** about burning money in the process.
Worst of all is even if Ronda is apparently leaving Vince will still have her go over. Becky can run circles around her promo wise, in the ring and have the crowd going ape shit every single night for the next 2 months and Vince will still have Ronda be victorious in the end. Wrestling isn't something to take too seriously but I absolutely hate Vince and his short-sightedness. I bet he loves Ronda and will push for her to win and it's just 100% wrong.
Sorry, had to vent a bit.
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Post by mattperiolat on Jan 28, 2019 23:45:30 GMT -5
I genuinely don't know at this point myself. On one hand... Ronda clearly can't handle it when things go off the rails and it would suck if the match fell apart like the Bayley one tonight did. On the other, I feel like the story doesn't at all need her presence and that there's much more of one to tell with Asuka defending against her. So... Yeah, I dunno. NO. This is Becky’s moment, not Charlotte’s. Have her rematch with Asaka and return the job. Becky can handle Rhonda. In fact - she has to. She is The Man. Now, beat the man at the top of the mountain and prove it.
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Post by Error on Jan 28, 2019 23:53:05 GMT -5
Adding Charlotte to this would be equal to adding Del Rio, Nash, and Hunter to Punk's work after MITB 2011.
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Post by Rudy Gobert Fingers on Jan 28, 2019 23:53:16 GMT -5
Can there just be one thing in this universe that Charlotte isn't added to? Like, please? Do we really need Rule 63 Roman Reigns in everything? Do we really need the equivalent of unseasoned turkey in all our meals?
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Post by Dub H on Jan 28, 2019 23:54:35 GMT -5
Can there just be one thing in this universe that Charlotte isn't added to? Like, please? Do we really need Rule 63 Roman Reigns in everything? Do we really need the equivalent of unseasoned turkey in all our meals? At my 18 Years Anniversary I had to share the candle blowing with Charlotte.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 28, 2019 23:55:14 GMT -5
Yes
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2019 23:57:33 GMT -5
Yeah, she should for a few reasons. I see way more positives to her in it than without.
1. A better match. Charlotte's always putting on dope matches and a multi-woman match is what she specializes in. Her being added frees up the other 2 so they don't get exhausted and it'll also have an a better result. As Meltzer said, it'll be a better match with Charlotte in it.
2. A bigger win for Becky. Becky beating the 2 most dominating women the Women's Division has seen these past 5 years at the main event of WM just makes her more impressive compared to just beating Ronda. 3. Becky looks like a bigger underdog. Besides going up against Ronda you've got Becky going up against someone who's undercut her since the NXT days. Having Becky win this with Charlotte in that spot gives her something else to be proud of as she's actually beaten her demon up close in personal at the biggest stage possible. She'll become the new leader of the Four Horsewomen by beating the former.
4. Protecting Ronda. Ronda's promos are ass, Charlotte's way better. Having those 2 go at it while Ronda gets in a few words is best. It's similar to Reigns. Ronda needs to stay away from the mic. No Charlotte means more Ronda on the mic because that's the WWE's promo style.
5. Ties up more storylines. Besides the "Becky is the best" storyline and the "Women's WM main event" storyline we can finally finish this Charlotte/Ronda storyline they'd been planning since WM last year when Charlotte beat Asuka. Charlotte isn't finished with Ronda yet so best have her face Ronda before Ronda goes on hiatus. 6. Bigger main event. You've got Becky, Ronda "former UFC champion" Rousey and Charlotte "the most dominating women this division's seen and I'm the daughter of Ric" Flair in a triple threat. That's got a bigger big main event feel to it.
7. Helps SDL's women championship more. Charlotte's losing but she's probably going to be Asuka's first challenger post-WM. With Charlotte in this match she can say "I main evented WM, you didn't, I deserve that title" and it makes Asuka look like a bigger underdog while also setting up Asuka's new feud with Charlotte. Yeah, Charlotte could face Asuka at WM again but they need a good post-WM feud for Asuka and Charlotte (who's probably staying on SDL) is the best option. Nobody else on SDL is good enough to face Asuka post-WM yet besides Charlotte.
8. Helps both divisions more as it makes 2 stars instead of 1. Whoever's in this match will get elevated. Becky's being elevated already regardless, she'll be made but Charlotte's different. People always say that Charlotte gets everything, all these firsts, they say she's the new Reigns but the reality is all of that doesn't mean a thing when Charlotte isn't more over. Those accolades hasn't made her reach her peak yet. She can still be elevated and when she elevates it's more people to pass that around. Charlotte being elevated just helps SDL out while Becky being elevated helps Raw out, like Meltzer said it's 2 stars elevated instead of 1 with Becky.
9. More people will be invested in it. People know Becky's beating Ronda but if you add Charlotte in there guaranteed that'll have more people behind Becky and hating Charlotte which helps Becky out and it also gives people a bit of "what if Becky doesn't win" type of thoughts.
10. There's a lot of planning to be thrown to the wayside. They've been planning Charlotte/Ronda for WM35's main event since last year's WM. Becky rising up caused them to adapt. Makes sense to keep following the base of the plan except make Becky win over the both of them given her rise as it's a more cohesive story.
11. Becky and Charlotte would prefer it this way. Hell, probably Ronda too but yep.
Overall yeah, put Charlotte in the match. Given how this company works I'm pretty sure they're headed that direction too. Becky/Ronda in a single's match doesn't have this many advantages.
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Post by Chainsaw on Jan 28, 2019 23:59:10 GMT -5
Not even a little.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 0:04:02 GMT -5
If she gets added, it won’t be the end of the world, it won’t make the build suck, it won’t make the match suck.
The overarching story has been about Becky trying her best to get that match with Ronda, even moreso by her actions at TLC. However, Charlotte has a legitimate case as well. In kayfabe, she can’t for the life of her have Becky steal another moment that’s hers. Think about it. She took the women’s rumble, she took her title, she’s taken her popularity. The only thing her nemasis hasn’t taken is her Wrestlemania streak and her Wrestlemania “moments.” So what does she do? She sticks her nose in their business to try to get the attention back on her, to get some revenge on Ronda for TLC, and to finally beat Becky Lynch.
The three tear it up in the main event, people are on their seats, people are hyped for the multiple staredowns and intertwined stories that have been building up since the Summer of 2018, and Becky pins whoever to get the win and to claim the Raw women’s championship.
I know a singles match is deserved for Becky, but the triple threat doesn’t even seem that bad of a concept whatsoever to me.
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Post by Cela on Jan 29, 2019 0:04:26 GMT -5
For the love of all that's holy, keep Charlotte away from this.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 29, 2019 0:04:59 GMT -5
Yeah, she should for a few reasons. I see way more positives to her in it than without. 1. A better match. Charlotte's always putting on dope matches and a multi-woman match is what she specializes in. Her being added frees up the other 2 so they don't get exhausted and it'll also have an a better result. 2. A bigger win for Becky. Becky beating the 2 most dominating women the Women's Division has seen these past 5 years at the main event of WM just makes her more impressive compared to just beating Ronda. 3. Becky looks like a bigger underdog. Besides going up against Ronda you've got Becky going up against someone who's undercut her since the NXT days. Having Becky win this with Charlotte in that spots gives her something else to be proud of as she's actually beaten her demon up close in personal. 4. Protecting Ronda. Ronda's promos are ass, Charlotte's way better. Having those 2 go at it while Ronda gets in a few words is best. It's similar to Reigns. Ronda needs to stay away from the mic. 5. Ties up more storylines. Besides the "Becky is the best" storyline and the "Women's WM main event" storyline we can finally finish this Charlotte/Ronda storyline they'd been planning since WM last year when Charlotte beats Asuka. Charlotte isn't finished with Ronda yet so best have her beat her before Ronda goes on hiatus. 6. Bigger main event. You've got Becky, Ronda "former UFC champion" Rousey and Charlotte "the most dominating women this division's seen and I'm the daughter of Ric" Flair in a triple threat. That's got a bigger big main event feel to it. 7. Helps SDL's women championship more. Charlotte's losing but she's probably going to be Asuka's first challenger post-WM. With Charlotte in this match she can say "I main evented WM, you didn't, I deserve that title" and it makes Asuka look like a bigger underdog while also setting up Asuka's new feud with Charlotte. Yeah, Charlotte could face Asuka at WM again but they need a good post-WM feud for Asuka and Charlotte (who's probably staying on SDL) is the best option. 8. Helps both divisions more as it makes 2 stars instead of 1. Whoever's in this match will get elevated. Becky's being elevated already, she'll be made but Charlotte's different. People always say that Charlotte gets everything, all these firsts, they say she's the new Reigns but the reality is all of that doesn't mean a thing when Charlotte isn't more over. She can still be elevated and when she elevates it's more people to pass that around. Charlotte being elevated just helps SDL out while Becky being elevated helps Raw out, like Meltzer said it's 2 stars elevated instead of 1 with Becky. 9. More people will be invested in it. People know Becky's beating Ronda but if you add Charlotte in there guaranteed that'll have more people behind Becky and hating Charlotte which helps Becky out and it also gives people a bit of "what if Becky doesn't win" type of thoughts. 10. There's a lot of planning to be thrown to the wayside. They've been planning Charlotte/Ronda for WM35's main event since last year's WM. Becky rising up caused them to adapt. Makes sense to keep following the base of the plan except make Becky win over the both of them given her rise as it's a more cohesive story. 11. Becky and Charlotte would prefer it this way. Hell, probably Ronda too but yep. Overall yeah, put Charlotte in the match. Given how this company works I'm pretty sure they're headed that direction too. Becky/Ronda in a single's match doesn't have this many advantages. Outside of the narrative she isn't needed, I do think people are genuinely scared if they add Charlotte she has a good chance of winning the title
I mean that's the reaction WWE wants to give fans some type of uncertainty but the paranoia may be too strong for some
However, in saying that I would love Charlotte/Asuka II and Asuka getting her win back. I just personally don't see Ronda/Becky getting the reactions after 10 hours of Mania but adding Charlotte keeps the intrigue up
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jan 29, 2019 0:06:36 GMT -5
In a word no.
Will it be the end of the world if she is? Not really... but she's not needed and the entire feud that has been setup since Survivor Series is Becky vs. Ronda.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Jan 29, 2019 0:08:31 GMT -5
Can there just be one thing in this universe that Charlotte isn't added to? Like, please? Do we really need Rule 63 Roman Reigns in everything? Do we really need the equivalent of unseasoned turkey in all our meals? Just one thing without Charlotte reminding everyone that she's the real star in Vince's eye. Please.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 0:12:53 GMT -5
Yeah, she should for a few reasons. I see way more positives to her in it than without. 1. A better match. Charlotte's always putting on dope matches and a multi-woman match is what she specializes in. Her being added frees up the other 2 so they don't get exhausted and it'll also have an a better result. 2. A bigger win for Becky. Becky beating the 2 most dominating women the Women's Division has seen these past 5 years at the main event of WM just makes her more impressive compared to just beating Ronda. 3. Becky looks like a bigger underdog. Besides going up against Ronda you've got Becky going up against someone who's undercut her since the NXT days. Having Becky win this with Charlotte in that spots gives her something else to be proud of as she's actually beaten her demon up close in personal. 4. Protecting Ronda. Ronda's promos are ass, Charlotte's way better. Having those 2 go at it while Ronda gets in a few words is best. It's similar to Reigns. Ronda needs to stay away from the mic. 5. Ties up more storylines. Besides the "Becky is the best" storyline and the "Women's WM main event" storyline we can finally finish this Charlotte/Ronda storyline they'd been planning since WM last year when Charlotte beats Asuka. Charlotte isn't finished with Ronda yet so best have her beat her before Ronda goes on hiatus. 6. Bigger main event. You've got Becky, Ronda "former UFC champion" Rousey and Charlotte "the most dominating women this division's seen and I'm the daughter of Ric" Flair in a triple threat. That's got a bigger big main event feel to it. 7. Helps SDL's women championship more. Charlotte's losing but she's probably going to be Asuka's first challenger post-WM. With Charlotte in this match she can say "I main evented WM, you didn't, I deserve that title" and it makes Asuka look like a bigger underdog while also setting up Asuka's new feud with Charlotte. Yeah, Charlotte could face Asuka at WM again but they need a good post-WM feud for Asuka and Charlotte (who's probably staying on SDL) is the best option. 8. Helps both divisions more as it makes 2 stars instead of 1. Whoever's in this match will get elevated. Becky's being elevated already, she'll be made but Charlotte's different. People always say that Charlotte gets everything, all these firsts, they say she's the new Reigns but the reality is all of that doesn't mean a thing when Charlotte isn't more over. She can still be elevated and when she elevates it's more people to pass that around. Charlotte being elevated just helps SDL out while Becky being elevated helps Raw out, like Meltzer said it's 2 stars elevated instead of 1 with Becky. 9. More people will be invested in it. People know Becky's beating Ronda but if you add Charlotte in there guaranteed that'll have more people behind Becky and hating Charlotte which helps Becky out and it also gives people a bit of "what if Becky doesn't win" type of thoughts. 10. There's a lot of planning to be thrown to the wayside. They've been planning Charlotte/Ronda for WM35's main event since last year's WM. Becky rising up caused them to adapt. Makes sense to keep following the base of the plan except make Becky win over the both of them given her rise as it's a more cohesive story. 11. Becky and Charlotte would prefer it this way. Hell, probably Ronda too but yep. Overall yeah, put Charlotte in the match. Given how this company works I'm pretty sure they're headed that direction too. Becky/Ronda in a single's match doesn't have this many advantages. Outside of the narrative she isn't needed, I do think people are genuinely scared if they add Charlotte she has a good chance of winning the title I mean that's the reaction WWE wants to give fans some type of uncertainty but the paranoia may be too strong for some However, in saying that I would love Charlotte/Asuka II and Asuka getting her win back. I just personally don't see Ronda/Becky getting the reactions after 10 hours of Mania but adding Charlotte keeps the intrigue up
Yeah, it's like the Bryan/Authority stuff. Back then people hated having Bryan face any one of them because they were afraid he'd lose rather than think about the idea of him winning even when he were against those odds. I remember people saying the guy was even going to lose at WM30 even after the matches were announced. If they add in Charlotte to this match that'll make people think that Charlotte might win again and Becky will lose so in the company's mind that's more people with their hearts into the story. That's better psychology to the match.
I think we'll get Charlotte/Asuka II but it'll be the first ppv after WM. Charlotte will be pissed that she lost at WM and then go at Asuka and we'll see them feud for months. It'll be fun.
I think with Charlotte added to the match there's more spectacle with it. She's got a unique "big match" wrestling style that the other 2 don't have so she'd be there to fill in the blanks for the match. Say the crowd's getting quiet at times and next thing you know Charlotte hits a moonsault or a spear through something or whatever. Her style is very big time.
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