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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 9:02:34 GMT -5
Meltzer is reporting a triple threat is still the plan. apparently: Yep. It makes complete sense. Guaranteed fans in the arena won't care since Becky's still getting hers regardless. I mean really, say you're Vince McMahon. You know Becky's winning, you know Ronda's leaving, you want to make this as big of a match possible. You know Charlotte being in the match makes it a greater match. You know Charlotte is someone the fans dislike and they think will steal the spotlight from Becky giving them more fear that she'll win since Becky's the underdog compared to these other 2 women. You know that Charlotte presents more opposition from Becky in the ring. You also know that Charlotte's storyline with Ronda isn't finished yet. Finally you know that with the type of character Becky is she'll say "I'll fight you both at WM come at me" rather than one on one. Lastly, you know the fans in attendance won't care if it's a single's match or a triple threat. You'd put Charlotte in the match because you're looking at more than the "Becky/Ronda storyline" at this point. More variables at play.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jan 29, 2019 9:23:03 GMT -5
Absolutely not. Her inclusion would just dilute the story and take the focus away from Ronda vs. Becky, and that's where the real heat is. Also, I'm just flat tired of her Poochie booking.
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Post by kidkamikaze10 on Jan 29, 2019 10:33:00 GMT -5
Come to think of it, I would be okay with it under one special condition.
Elimination rules. And have Becky beat them both. Or at least Ronda
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Post by The Unconquered Sun on Jan 29, 2019 10:47:57 GMT -5
Personally I’m sick and tired of triple threat matches being used to protect one of the three in the match by saying “hey, you never beat me.” It’s a cheap way out. And honestly do either Charlotte or Ronda need to be protected at time point? If Ronda is done, than she’s had a great run, let her get her 1st and only lose and put Becky over. Make the crowd happy for once.
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Post by Texas Tornado on Jan 29, 2019 11:33:19 GMT -5
Should she? Nah. Asuka should get her win back over her at Mania.
She probably will, though.
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Post by sunnytaker on Jan 29, 2019 11:37:30 GMT -5
i'd just as soon they don't because it really limits the options for the smackdown women's title defense being seen in the same league as the raw women's title. put charlotte in with becky/ronda and you have argueably the three most dominant women in the division right now in one match. then you have asuka (who just made one of those three tap out) facing some random person who probably no one thinks is going to beat her and risk getting pre-showed.
keep charlotte away from becky/ronda and now you can have charlotte/asuka 2 where asuka has never beaten charlotte and wants to avenge that loss and charlotte is hungry to reclaim "her" title from someone she knows she can beat. that way if ronda does leave you have a situation that's still balanced. asuka can beat becky, who can beat charlotte, who can beat asuka.
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Post by Tenshigure on Jan 29, 2019 11:38:10 GMT -5
Logistically, it makes no sense to let 2nd place also fight in a triple threat for WrestleMania, not without some sort of trial/match in the build-up that would justify her being added. The only way that happens is if either Ronda/Charlotte end up on the same page to beat down Becky, or we have some stupid 'underdog earning a spot because Becky decided to get cocky'. I don't want either of those in these situations, and while I can't control what they decide in the future, I'd hope they would want to at least give their potential first true women's main event some 1v1 hype.
With the fact that WWE likes to create "WrestleMania moments," I feel it would be more fitting to have the Four Horsewomen all in the ring with a championship in hand: Sasha/Bayley with the Women's Tag belts, Charlotte with the newly acquired SD Women's belt after winning against Asuka, and Becky beating Ronda in the Main Event.
By having them all on the same page as this by having them feel like the biggest thing of the show for the "season finale," it allows them to spend the following months through the spring/summer building up the Four Horsewomen of Wrestling vs the Four Horsewomen of MMA leading to the big showdown at SummerSlam or Evolution (if they have another one of those).
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Jan 29, 2019 13:21:56 GMT -5
I loved smug, sadistic Charlotte at the Rumble. She gets everything handed to her, but Becky has to fight and take it.
Thing is, they won't let Rousey just be a heel. They need to make her believe she's a 'tweener.'
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 29, 2019 13:29:53 GMT -5
I'm all for Asuka and Charlotte tearing down the house because I feel that match will no doubt be better than Ronda/Becky and with more drama
Ronda/Becky by itself just doesn't interest me personally and with the reports Ronda is leaving after Mania that just takes away all the drama
Adding Charlotte to the match for a triple threat makes sense because she has a legit gripe about Becky and continues to fuel her mad Queen persona when she takes another L to Becky.
However, her vs Asuka has a lot of legs and something I predicted should happen before the triple threat rumors started. Charlotte can say she gave Asuka her first loss and she has her number. Charlotte with this more intense persona against vintage NXT level Asuka is a beast match
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Post by Saiyanic Panic on Feb 5, 2019 8:10:55 GMT -5
Per tonight's WOR radio, The Meltz sez the three-way match is a lock (as much as any decision by Vince McMahon can be). The mentality being:
1. The heat coming off the match at Survivor Series being so great and Rousey & Charlotte having proven chemistry. 2. Becky Lynch being hot right now.
3. The long-term of both Charlotte Flair and Becky Lynch being in the first Women's main event.
"Main event" is relative and the decision won't be made until the week of the show. Dave presumes it'll go last but "It's Vince".
Stephanie will be positioned as an authority heel trying to hold down Becky, as "they only know one way to do this". Maybe not immediately but come closer to or after WrestleMania.
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Post by arrogantmodel on Feb 5, 2019 8:37:23 GMT -5
Jesus Christ. Steph has to be involved, because "that's all they know." This f***ing company, I swear to god.
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Post by nisidhe on Feb 5, 2019 8:43:56 GMT -5
No. No. No. No. No. NO.
This has less a Wrestlemania 30 feel and more of a Wrestlemania 20 feel; and Charlotte is coming off like the HBK of the mix. He was the third wheel of that match as well; while the finish sent the fans home happy, it did not benefit from the Triple Threat concept when just as much drama could have been from the straight one-on-one.
Charlotte doesn't need to be in this match: if the intent is to get her away from Asuka (to put her in the mix for the Raw title), have her lose to Asuka, then come out like Owen did at the end of Wrestlemania X and stand on the ramp shaking her head, the gears in her head whirring as she sorts out how to get over to Raw to face Becks for that title. Problem solved - we get a top-notch Smackdown title match with Asuka getting her win back, we get a top-notch Raw title match and the beginning of a build in interest in the Shakeup to follow.
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Post by RedSmile on Feb 5, 2019 8:55:39 GMT -5
The answer is No, and it's Pro Wrestling 101.
Save Becky/Charlotte for the other 200 PPVs that WWE insists on having during the year.
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Post by Rican on Feb 5, 2019 9:27:53 GMT -5
On top of all the other reasons this would suck it really dilutes the Women's Rumble. It was already a bad start having last year's winner lose at Wrestlemania, but now the winner doesn't even get a 1-1 match? Why would anyone care who wins next year?
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Post by theironyuppie on Feb 5, 2019 10:19:40 GMT -5
On top of all the other reasons this would suck it really dilutes the Women's Rumble. It was already a bad start having last year's winner lose at Wrestlemania, but now the winner doesn't even get a 1-1 match? Why would anyone care who wins next year? In fairness, WWE set it up so that while Becky was a 100% face and instinctively in the right (she asked Fit Finlay, she checked with the injured Lana before replacing her, she appealed to the fans), technically she shouldn't have been in the match. Sasha could have gotten in on the same grounds of already losing a title match but showing up (like Roman Reigns) anyway, but did not.
I've written before on why I think the three-way is ultimately the better call (and for Becky too), but I'll add that based on Raw, having Charlotte in the mix will add interest to a build that otherwise seems to be Stephanie playing Vince Redux, Ronda getting rattled by hostile crowds and Becky no-selling anything Ronda says to her. The internet's going to be pissed about it, but its part of the story and as a heel Charlotte will be able to work with that heat and help the face, Becky.
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Post by cabbageboy on Feb 5, 2019 11:54:10 GMT -5
I voted no here. The problem with the 3 way is that they've done this too much with Charlotte already. How many times is she supposed to worm her way into a Becky title shot on PPV? It's a lousy, repetitive angle and it is borderline on the old "wrong kind of heat" territory. In fact I would be willing to bet if they do this 3 way it will simply lead to a lot of people exiting during the main event if they put it on last. It just isn't anything special. We've seen Becky/Charlotte/Whoever a few times already, just sub in Rousey for Carmella or Asuka.
I do wonder...who all here has been to a WM? How many people leave during the main event? The only one I went to was 24 with Taker/Edge as the main event and there were definitely a lot of people who walked out during that match.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Feb 5, 2019 16:08:45 GMT -5
They’re doing Flair’s 70th Birthday on Raw. So, that’s how Charlotte gets to Raw to set this up.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Feb 5, 2019 16:10:54 GMT -5
They already have laid the groundwork for Charlotte being added. Graves mentioned on commentary that they would need a backup challenger if Becky cannot get cleared before Wrestlemania.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2019 16:18:45 GMT -5
In fact I would be willing to bet if they do this 3 way it will simply lead to a lot of people exiting during the main event if they put it on last. It just isn't anything special. We've seen Becky/Charlotte/Whoever a few times already, just sub in Rousey for Carmella or Asuka. You sure about betting? You know the rules about betting on this forum. Nobody is going to going to leave the main event if that's the main event, guaranteed. The fans cheered for Becky/Charlotte to fight last week and even did a "let them fight" chant. The fans cheered for Becky/Ronda recently. The fans cheered when Charlotte took Ronda out and even after when Charlotte said she's still going after Ronda. They even cheered for Charlotte mentioning Ronda during her anti-Becky promos. There's really nothing indicating the fans will rebel against this triple threat. That's something that only online fans who don't want Charlotte in this match say without any proof from the audience at the arenas.
It goes back to what I said when I first brought up the triple threat idea months ago. There's no indication people won't love it and the seeds were laid, it makes sense. A small minority are against it.
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Post by BoomPeriod on Feb 5, 2019 16:23:49 GMT -5
No. Charlotte is my favorite female wrestler in WWE and still no. If Charlotte is in the main event, then it should be Charlotte vs Becky. The question is should Rhonda be in the main event after only being there for a year? Becky vs Rhonda should be a good match so I'm fine with it. The only argument to add Charlotte would be that it's the first time women are main eventing and she is one of the best so shove her in, but that takes away from the appeal of the one on one match. It would be fine for any other PPV main event but not mania. They already let Charlotte end Asuka's streak. Give Becky the spotlight. Everyone goes home happy. If they do a women's main event ever again, have Charlotte in it.
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