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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2019 12:18:29 GMT -5
WWE could simply say "all our wrestlers, regardless of sex and gender are highly skilled athletes capable of competiting with each other" to deflect any male versus female criticism. It does seem to me that the most logical way to integrate transgender wrestlers would be to get rid of the divisions between sexes entirely, which I admit would probably lose me as a fan, simply because there are still certain boundaries of realism that if crossed, would kill my suspension of disbelief.
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Post by Hit Girl on Apr 2, 2019 12:31:41 GMT -5
WWE could simply say "all our wrestlers, regardless of sex and gender are highly skilled athletes capable of competiting with each other" to deflect any male versus female criticism. It does seem to me that the most logical way to integrate transgender wrestlers would be to get rid of the divisions between sexes entirely, which I admit would probably lose me as a fan, simply because there are still certain boundaries of realism that if crossed, would kill my suspension of disbelief. If realism was applied, then Brock could simply kill every male on the roster in just a few minutes.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2019 12:36:37 GMT -5
WWE could simply say "all our wrestlers, regardless of sex and gender are highly skilled athletes capable of competiting with each other" to deflect any male versus female criticism. It does seem to me that the most logical way to integrate transgender wrestlers would be to get rid of the divisions between sexes entirely, which I admit would probably lose me as a fan, simply because there are still certain boundaries of realism that if crossed, would kill my suspension of disbelief. I mean, to me I have an easier time believing Becky could take John Cena in a fight than I do buying that she could beat up dozens of police offers while handcuffed while an also handcuffed Ronda drives a car.
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Post by Hit Girl on Apr 2, 2019 12:38:40 GMT -5
A fully integrated roster brings all kinds of new creative possibilities.
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Post by Sam Punk on Apr 2, 2019 12:52:29 GMT -5
I could see them bringing in someone like Domino Presley as a manager.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2019 12:52:45 GMT -5
It does seem to me that the most logical way to integrate transgender wrestlers would be to get rid of the divisions between sexes entirely, which I admit would probably lose me as a fan, simply because there are still certain boundaries of realism that if crossed, would kill my suspension of disbelief. I mean, to me I have an easier time believing Becky could take John Cena in a fight than I do buying that she could beat up dozens of police offers while handcuffed while an also handcuffed Ronda drives a car. Same but that's like saying I have an easier time believing that Superman could eat a Porsche without getting a stomach ache than I do buying that he could eat a dozen Volkswagons without getting a stomach ache. Both are absurd and we shouldn't have to choose between them.
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Post by darbus alan on Apr 2, 2019 12:53:40 GMT -5
A fully integrated roster could both be very interesting but also open up a giant can of worms.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Apr 2, 2019 12:53:46 GMT -5
I don't know if WWE is ready to promote a transgender wrestler as a serious competitor if the opportunity was there. I think they would present it negatively and in a derogatory fashion, and I think that identity as transgender would be used as the basis for any angle thay particular performer was involved in, which would be very awkward. Also, WWE still has never had an openly gay or lesbian wrestler on screen in a respectful way--I couldn't imagine how they would present a transgender wrestler. However, I do think a good start would be finding an extremely passable transwoman to be a valet or manager, a lot like Poison in Street Fighter to at least prove that transwomen can be just as beautiful as any other woman and don't all look like men in drag. That’s kinda how I feel they should handle it. Like, first person I thought of was Nicole Maine’s from Supergirl. If she were a wrestler, you could toss her out there in the women’s division and not a f***ing soul would be any the wiser unless WWE chose to tell them. I literally just found out she’s trans like a week ago, and she’s been on the show all season. That’s how i feel the best way to utilise a trans wrestler, just send them out there and don’t make a deal of it.
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Post by The Legend of Groose on Apr 2, 2019 12:56:48 GMT -5
I think it could work. Now can WWE pull it off without looking bad, that's a different question.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2019 12:58:13 GMT -5
I'd say no. Not because the wrestler themselves wouldn't be ready but holy shit I do not want to have a transgender person who is talented show up and be paraded by Stephanie every f***ing week for years. That would turn the reaction into an awful one.
If they could just let the person do their thing on their merits, it would be pretty cool.
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Post by Instant Classic on Apr 2, 2019 13:03:00 GMT -5
Not a fan of what, exactly? I don’t wanna get into specifics, but I don’t need to see a former male or female mix it up with their new gender.
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Post by bog on Apr 2, 2019 13:10:19 GMT -5
No. What would be the point? To show how “equal” and “progressive” they are? I like my wrestling entertaining. Saying “Here’s the first ever HISTORIC transgendered wrestler!” isn’t entertaining. Keep these real life PC “progressive” issues out of my wrestling, please. Nobody here is saying WWE should go out of their way to hire a transgender wrestler. The discussion is if WWE would be ready to hire a wrestler of what they consider WWE level who happens to be transgender. The answer is clearly no, if the very idea of it brings these types of responses out of their fans.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2019 13:59:22 GMT -5
I’m not sure what would be more cringey if the WWE did this, the angles that they would come up with for the wrestler or how hard they would jerk themselves off for “making history.”
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Post by Chainsaw on Apr 2, 2019 14:01:43 GMT -5
Are you kidding me, they're barely able to integrate any gender wrestlers.
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Post by FinalGwen on Apr 2, 2019 14:03:31 GMT -5
Not a fan of what, exactly? I don’t wanna get into specifics, but I don’t need to see a former male or female mix it up with their new gender. Don't worry, the specifics seem obvious enough from your choice of wording.
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Post by Rudy Gobert Fingers on Apr 2, 2019 14:04:18 GMT -5
I don’t trust WWE or any wrestling company to not make the person a billboard item. “Oh my goooood. A transgender wrestlerrrr! Come on everybody! Look at how progressive we are!!” It’d be more of a hollow bullet point than an actual positive move. I mean, that's kinda what AEW just did. Didn't make a big deal out of it whatsoever and people found out like purely from word of mouth.
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Post by Rudy Gobert Fingers on Apr 2, 2019 14:05:14 GMT -5
WWE and WWE fans are as collectively not ready as not ready can be.
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Post by The Ichi on Apr 2, 2019 14:07:24 GMT -5
It took them 35 years to do a female Wrestlemania main event, and said main event features someone who's transphobic. It would take a major management overhaul for me to be convinced it would be handled properly.
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Apr 2, 2019 14:11:40 GMT -5
A fully integrated roster brings all kinds of new creative possibilities. Different scales, obviously, but Chikara's got a pretty good history of having a pretty great fully integrated roster. It's absolutely a valid way to go, not that I think WWE's at all ready for that.
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Apr 2, 2019 14:13:37 GMT -5
like legit transgender? I mean the WWE is a show not a competition. I don’t see really any reason why it COULDNT be done. Are there a lot of transgender wrestlers active in the independent scene?
I am however mortified at the mere thought of the WWE trying to portray this character in any light that doesn’t cause intense cringe
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