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Post by Loser troll. Please ban me on Apr 11, 2019 12:58:30 GMT -5
I remember watching ROH back in the Samoa Joe, Styles, Danielson days and it was thee hottest wrestling commodity.
I wouldn't even call it a shell of itself, It's an entirely different entity now
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Apr 11, 2019 13:14:32 GMT -5
I remember watching ROH back in the Samoa Joe, Styles, Danielson days and it was thee hottest wrestling commodity. I wouldn't even call it a shell of itself, It's an entirely different entity now Point blank, the rest of the indies caught up. That, combined with ROH being so petrified of pulling the trigger in fear that their hot properties will get signed by WWE, and it's killed a lot of ROH's appeal dead.
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Post by markymark on Apr 11, 2019 13:44:34 GMT -5
Honestly, maybe I'm spoiled by wrestling Independentwrestling.tv too much lately, but Kelly Klein is honestly the most generic woman's wrestler out there right now to me. Literally anybody is more interesting to me than her. Even Alisha Edwards?, at least Klein has presence and looks like a wrestler.
Btw, if ROH/Bully even plans of having the Allure going over Oedo Tai, Stardom should break the partnership with ROH.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Apr 11, 2019 15:14:12 GMT -5
I remember watching ROH back in the Samoa Joe, Styles, Danielson days and it was thee hottest wrestling commodity. I wouldn't even call it a shell of itself, It's an entirely different entity now Point blank, the rest of the indies caught up. That, combined with ROH being so petrified of pulling the trigger in fear that their hot properties will get signed by WWE, and it's killed a lot of ROH's appeal dead. Yes and no. The rest of the indies are loaded but ROH lost their appeal a couple years ago based on a perceived notion where some rising names in the indies signed with ROH and were misused.. plus the contracts ROH gave limited where they could work. Unless those contracts changed you are not going to see a lot of up and comers commit if they have a lot of options
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2019 15:07:32 GMT -5
Funny thing, this "bad" press is still being talked about five days later. Almost like this stunt is gained attention. Now everyone is waiting to see what happens next. If you, and so many others here, are done with ROH completely, then it will be considered a bad move, however, some people want to see a train wreck, and see what can be salvaged. Like I've said, ROH has suffered worse, and still producing an entertaining product. Yeah I remember when Batman vs. Superman came out, got mercilessly shit on, and then the follow-up Justice League made a whole 200 million dollars less at the box office than that. Really worked that long-term discussion into the big bucks. I don't think people are waiting to see what happens, I think people watched a show that sucked and that a lot of them aren't going to tune in to shit. This is a forum, we discuss things, and in this thread about Ring of Honor's show, where make no mistake the conversation has slowed and fewer people are wading in to keep talking about it, the only thing anyone really pays mind to is this one awful non-angle off to the side that didn't even make the camera. It's not "Wow Ring of Honor did a great job I can't wait to watch more of their show and subscribe so I can see what happens next". Bad press exists and stock phrases don't become true because you've heard them a bunch of times. I watched G1 Supercard with my NJPW World account and ROH's performance did not move me to give them any more of my money, so yeah that's pretty crap move. I'd stop it there with him. You're not going to convince him otherwise that this is only going to hurt Ring of Honor in the long-term, as he's of the opinion that anything is good for ROH, and that ROH will still be awesome out of it. I hate being a warped record, and yet I had to remind people about the fact that this ain't the ROH they remembered. If ROH is going to come out looking the better for it, how come the discussion is looking more at "is New Japan going to switch to All Elite as a partner in the future?" or "why would ROH sign Enzo & Cass, two wrestlers in WWE only known for an entrance?" This isn't going to have me want to watch ROH programming in the future.
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Post by Chainsaw on Apr 12, 2019 15:14:19 GMT -5
Yeah I remember when Batman vs. Superman came out, got mercilessly shit on, and then the follow-up Justice League made a whole 200 million dollars less at the box office than that. Really worked that long-term discussion into the big bucks. I don't think people are waiting to see what happens, I think people watched a show that sucked and that a lot of them aren't going to tune in to shit. This is a forum, we discuss things, and in this thread about Ring of Honor's show, where make no mistake the conversation has slowed and fewer people are wading in to keep talking about it, the only thing anyone really pays mind to is this one awful non-angle off to the side that didn't even make the camera. It's not "Wow Ring of Honor did a great job I can't wait to watch more of their show and subscribe so I can see what happens next". Bad press exists and stock phrases don't become true because you've heard them a bunch of times. I watched G1 Supercard with my NJPW World account and ROH's performance did not move me to give them any more of my money, so yeah that's pretty crap move. I'd stop it there with him. You're not going to convince him otherwise that this is only going to hurt Ring of Honor in the long-term, as he's of the opinion that anything is good for ROH, and that ROH will still be awesome out of it. I hate being a warped record, and yet I had to remind people about the fact that this ain't the ROH they remembered. If ROH is going to come out looking the better for it, how come the discussion is looking more at "is New Japan going to switch to All Elite as a partner in the future?" or "why would ROH sign Enzo & Cass, two wrestlers in WWE only known for an entrance?" This isn't going to have me want to watch ROH programming in the future. If there's one take that I cannot stand, it's the "Any press is good press" take.
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Post by Chainsaw on Apr 12, 2019 15:15:12 GMT -5
Maybe they'll put it on Marty and say "see? We do have faith in you!! Please sign with us!!!" a month before his contact expires. I say he gets the belt 2 weeks before his contract expires.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Apr 12, 2019 15:42:42 GMT -5
So are we going with LOLROH, Ruh-ROH or ROHFL for the new LOLTNA?
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Apr 12, 2019 15:47:09 GMT -5
So are we going with LOLROH, Ruh-ROH or ROHFL for the new LOLTNA? Ruh-ROH is a bit more of a step but it's also perfect in every way
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Apr 12, 2019 15:56:05 GMT -5
So are we going with LOLROH, Ruh-ROH or ROHFL for the new LOLTNA? Ruh-ROH is a bit more of a step but it's also perfect in every way I dunno, I feel like ROHFL is a sleeper hit.
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Post by Yamashita Enforcement Division on Apr 12, 2019 17:04:44 GMT -5
So are we going with LOLROH, Ruh-ROH or ROHFL for the new LOLTNA? Ceterum autem censeo ROH esse delendam
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