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Post by chrom on Apr 7, 2019 8:23:16 GMT -5
I said I'd post this thread in the morning, here it is.
We've seen guys be labeled it before, but never an entire company.
That was fail and straight WCW 2000 all around last night. On your biggest night and at the most historic venue in the World which you managed to sell out, you book that? Way to appeal to first time viewers and former fans, that's making sure they aren't going to wanna watch again
Let's look at it.
You got Kenny King who draws crickets interrupting a Legends Duel between The Great Muta and Jushin Thunder Liger, making the crowd dead.
Speaking of dead, The Horrific, oh excuse me "Beautiful" People, two girls who still don't know how to run the ropes and on par with the worst of the Divas era debut. If ROH wanted a stable, Oedo Tai was back there in the locker room, they were involved in the Dark Match for crying out loud. Not to mention a waste of Iwatani. The WOH Division never had much of a lifeline before, but it doesn't even have a pulse now.
Production was something you'd see out of an bush league indy show. And you couldn't even get the music rights to the New Japan guys when before it was never a problem?
Just what the hell was that six man tag and why did it go so long? And when will people learn that live musical segments are never a good idea.
You want new guys brought in and make an appearance fine. But why in the hell would you go with Enzo Amore, a dude accused of sexual assault and Big Ass? And not only that, when the promotion you are working with is running a different post match angle, why would you tick them off by doing it at the same time. All reports say that New Japan's furious with what happened and Tanga Loa saying F ROH on Twitter and it wouldn't surprise me if the G.O.D. had left the belts there. Gedo was likely calling Cody during the show asking how long until AEW is fully up and functional.
And finally, you have Matt Taven, a guy so dull and bland that he makes Mike "Plain Rice is the best meal all around" Bennett look like electricity win the World Title? Against a guy who the fans are chanting for and wanting to win? That fans actually got up and left the arena in protest?
I'm done with Ring of Honor for now.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Apr 7, 2019 8:35:30 GMT -5
ROH is booking now Enzo and Cass? What the f*** is this Mickey Mouse organization bullshit? Enzo and Cass can’t work!
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 7, 2019 8:45:58 GMT -5
I honestly wonder if they hired Enzo and Cass for that spot due to Enzo getting thrown out of Survivor Series, like they think that's the kind of attention they need or want.
Taven winning was the far lesser option to Marty, but still better than Lethal winning, so that could have been worse.
The Beautiful People thing is the dumbest shit. If they were going to do it, anyway, they should have just done it with Madison like she asked for. The only thing lamer than BP in 2019 is an incomplete one, I guess.
Jeff Cobb looked like a star, but he always does. He's also a part-time NJPW guy, so I don't know how much credit ROH deserves for that. He was one of the only ROH guys that looked like one.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Apr 7, 2019 8:48:32 GMT -5
I haven’t watched ROH in a long time.
Im blown away by how low-rent so many of their wrestlers look. Generic guys in ill-fitting attire fumbling around. A big fat guy who’s biggest spot is yelling “I don’t have teeeeeeth!”
There’s this obnoxious singapore cane spot thats supposed to be this grand moment for Flip Gordon or whatever. The faces finally turn the tide and how do the announcers sell it? By singing Star Wars music.
What the hell happened?!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2019 8:49:47 GMT -5
I can’t get over that they had a show co-promoted with NJPW in MSG and they shit the bed like they did. If I’m NJPW I’m pulling out faster than Peter North.
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Post by Talent Name on Apr 7, 2019 8:49:59 GMT -5
Allure is now three shit wrestlers its almost as bad as Russo era Knockouts
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2019 8:56:25 GMT -5
How the hell are Enzo and Cass, especially Enzo, going to hang in ROH week to week?
It'll be like Jungle Jim Steele rocking up in ECW.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Apr 7, 2019 8:58:02 GMT -5
How the hell are Enzo and Cass, especially Enzo, going to hang in ROH week to week? It'll be like Jungle Jim Steele rocking up in ECW. Current ROH? Lol. They feel like the most put together act on the show honestly.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2019 8:58:44 GMT -5
How the hell are Enzo and Cass, especially Enzo, going to hang in ROH week to week? It'll be like Jungle Jim Steele rocking up in ECW. Current ROH? Lol. They feel like the most put together act on the show honestly. Match wise though in a workrate promotion?
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Apr 7, 2019 9:01:51 GMT -5
Current ROH? Lol. They feel like the most put together act on the show honestly. Match wise though in a workrate promotion? I saw a lot of the matches ROH put on last night. If that’s the bar for workrate they’ll be fine.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2019 9:03:23 GMT -5
Match wise though in a workrate promotion? I saw a lot of the matches ROH put on last night. If that’s the bar for workrate they’ll be fine. I didn't see the matches so can't say for sure, but I think you might be forgetting how bad Enzo and Cass were with WWE agents laying everything out for them. In a freer environment without that....yeesh.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2019 9:04:15 GMT -5
should Cass even be wrestling after the seizure?
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Apr 7, 2019 9:13:15 GMT -5
I give it a a couple of months before Enzo either walks over money or gets hurt doing something basic in the ring then turns around and sues.
One of my big fears for ROH in the NXT/New Japan/AEW era was they'd start ot overspend on dregs like ECW did... And here we are.
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Post by Dub H on Apr 7, 2019 9:18:11 GMT -5
If Enzo and Cass get their act togehter I dont mind then having a job.
Otherwise it has been a long time I dont see ROH anyway,every time I try do it seems things got worse
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Post by kingoftheindies on Apr 7, 2019 9:18:18 GMT -5
ROH is booking now Enzo and Cass? What the f*** is this Mickey Mouse organization bullshit? Enzo and Cass can’t work! As dumb as booking them was ROH went out of their way to NOT show them on the stream to apparently make it more legit all while New Japan was running a post match angle
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Post by Convoy on Apr 7, 2019 9:26:31 GMT -5
I just mentioned in another thread how bad ROH came across to casual and potential new fans there for the New Japan product. They didn’t gain any ground despite running MSG, and even my girl while watching 6-man street fight said “so this is a match that’s still going.”
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Apr 7, 2019 9:34:51 GMT -5
I saw a lot of the matches ROH put on last night. If that’s the bar for workrate they’ll be fine. I didn't see the matches so can't say for sure, but I think you might be forgetting how bad Enzo and Cass were with WWE agents laying everything out for them. In a freer environment without that....yeesh. Im aware. I also saw Beer City Bruiser.
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Post by evenbroddt on Apr 7, 2019 9:39:15 GMT -5
Man, it's depressing thinking about the first Supercard of Honor back in 2006 and now this is where ROH is. 2004-2008 was definitely the Golden Age of the promotion but they've become a completely different product since then.
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Post by The 1Watcher Experience on Apr 7, 2019 9:40:45 GMT -5
Self awareness is not being well represented this weekend. That’s for sure.
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Post by Venti on Apr 7, 2019 11:45:36 GMT -5
Don't keep up much on ROH these days, but from what I've read on them, hard to believe it's the same company from the mid 2000s age with Punk and Danielson.
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