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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on May 18, 2019 17:28:44 GMT -5
From the Observer website:
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on May 18, 2019 17:42:01 GMT -5
I’m sleep, they tried to ask pac to take that L and he gave em’ the “nah, I’m champion, I’m straight.”
That’s old school rasslin’ there, haha
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2019 17:42:27 GMT -5
Oof that is not a good start
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Post by Mayonnaise on May 18, 2019 17:42:42 GMT -5
That sucks but kudos to PAC for taking the role of being the top champ and face of a company that serious.
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Post by Spider2024 on May 18, 2019 17:43:58 GMT -5
Darnit! That was my all-time #1 dream match, too! ...sorry. Please resume.
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Post by eJm on May 18, 2019 17:44:27 GMT -5
So I’m not going to deny the “This is all a work and the match will still happen regardless” because it’s pro wrestling and taking that option off the table is a fool’s errand.
BUT...I sort of get Pac’s point of view here if true. Like, sure, it is a worked business and titles aren’t exactly the thing you put your foot down on but if you do potentially want to work more with Dragon Gate, you do have to make the champion they have look credible and not lose on the biggest stage you have. You don’t want a situation like Michael Elgin at the one Battle of Los Angeles tournament where he as the ROH World Champion lost in the first round. It might make his opponent look good but storyline wise, it makes Elgin and ROH not look as good as they should.
On the flip side, Page is being built in a story on BTE (maybe not as important for proper AEW) that he’s trying to be a credible heavyweight champion and getting fit to make that happen. But outside of that, he’s talented and charismatic enough that you want him in that title picture and beating PAC would be a good step up for doing that. A DQ or a draw on your first show wouldn’t be something you want to have in any way to get an audience for the long term because that stuff is a WWE move (the DQ, the draw you might work but if you don’t want to do that, I get why)
I will say as someone who saw Walter lose by DQ to PAC at OTT and wondering how many headaches Joe Cabray got as the match got closer and both guys were signed to WWE and AEW respectively, I do feel for the bookers here.
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Post by timelimitdraw on May 18, 2019 17:54:02 GMT -5
Part of me wonders if this is a cover for AEW not getting Pac's visa in order yet. I remember that he couldn't work a date over WrestleMania weekend because of it, but at the time it was stated that it wouldn't impact him being at Double or Nothing.
And if it's not a cover for visa issues, I really hope Dragon Gate is financially making it worth his while to turn this down.
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on May 18, 2019 18:02:31 GMT -5
oh please! a leak to the Observer that Pac's refusing to do the job so the match is off? that's the best cover story they could come up with? what complete, obvious bulls***. you don't got to lie AEW, we all know what's going on:
that fatty boombalatty Hangman Page ain't full-gear ready!
we all saw you eat the one chip, Page. hope it was worth it.
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Post by eJm on May 18, 2019 18:04:34 GMT -5
oh please! a leak to the Observer that Pac's refusing to do the job so the match is off? that's the best cover story they could come up with? what complete, obvious bulls***. you don't got to lie AEW, we all know what's going on: that fatty boombalatty Hangman Page ain't full-gear ready! we all saw you eat the one chip, Page. hope it was worth it. Look, we’ve had this discussion before and you’re all wrong! He needed that chip! He was wasting away, man! He’s too skinny!
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Post by King Devitt on May 18, 2019 18:12:06 GMT -5
oh please! a leak to the Observer that Pac's refusing to do the job so the match is off? that's the best cover story they could come up with? what complete, obvious bulls***. you don't got to lie AEW, we all know what's going on: that fatty boombalatty Hangman Page ain't full-gear ready! we all saw you eat the one chip, Page. hope it was worth it. Look, we’ve had this discussion before and you’re all wrong! He needed that chip! He was wasting away, man! He’s too skinny! But he has to drop weight and gain muscle at the SAME TIME! And eating that one chip didn't do him any favors with either one. Dude has a week to get full gear ready.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2019 18:34:52 GMT -5
Part of me wonders if this is a cover for AEW not getting Pac's visa in order yet. I remember that he couldn't work a date over WrestleMania weekend because of it, but at the time it was stated that it wouldn't impact him being at Double or Nothing. And if it's not a cover for visa issues, I really hope Dragon Gate is financially making it worth his while to turn this down. I'd assume they are, but Nevpac seems to want something where he's featured and gets to work interesting matches/angles most. If he's a champ for a company, he's scratching that itch.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on May 18, 2019 18:37:27 GMT -5
...and so it begins.
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Post by markymark on May 18, 2019 18:49:46 GMT -5
Pac could be having visa issues.
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Post by AwamoriRock on May 18, 2019 18:54:51 GMT -5
Not to double post, but outside of the possibility of it being visa related or a work, this is in part why people need to be a bit more conservative in their hopes of working with promotions like Stardom, who even in Japan are known for being isolationist with things like this.
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Post by eJm on May 18, 2019 18:55:48 GMT -5
So watching this...I can fully believe that a) Pac’s just having Visa issues and b) this is the storyline they came up with to build a match between the two until they get said issues sorted.
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Post by Pgarodactyl on May 18, 2019 19:00:22 GMT -5
Hangman vs X-Pac. Book it.
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Post by Cyno on May 18, 2019 19:28:40 GMT -5
It'd really suck if this was related to visa issues. Hope the Japanese wrestlers don't run into any similar problems.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2019 19:30:23 GMT -5
If it's just VISA issues hopefully it sets up a potential match. That can be fixed. Hopefully it's not standard creative issues. I really don't wanna see AEW going down that whole path.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2019 19:30:38 GMT -5
Someone queue the “WWE is running interference on visas somehow” conspiracy theory.
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Post by lildude8218 on May 18, 2019 20:16:07 GMT -5
Shoulda used Mastercard
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