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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 18:45:41 GMT -5
I have to imagine this Lesnar shit is a big part of why morale is so bad. Can't imagine a lot of people are thrilled knowing that no matter how hard you work, no matter what you do, this guy who shows up to work for five minutes once every couple of months is always going to be paid many times what they are and they're always going to be made to look like jokes in comparison to him.
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Post by Cronant on May 20, 2019 19:47:41 GMT -5
This is pretty standard and people are only making a deal out of it because they didn't like the outcome. There are multiple big surprises that WWE has done that are known to as little people as they can get away with for it to work. Cena's rumble return was one of them.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 19:54:53 GMT -5
This is pretty standard and people are only making a deal out of it because they didn't like the outcome. There are multiple big surprises that WWE has done that are known to as little people as they can get away with for it to work. Cena's rumble return was one of them. Well, yeah. A surprise still has to be a GOOD surprise. Cena's return? Good surprise, to most. Brock about to get another stranglehold on the belt? Not a good surprise.
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Post by Cronant on May 20, 2019 19:59:04 GMT -5
This is pretty standard and people are only making a deal out of it because they didn't like the outcome. There are multiple big surprises that WWE has done that are known to as little people as they can get away with for it to work. Cena's rumble return was one of them. Well, yeah. A surprise still has to be a GOOD surprise. Cena's return? Good surprise, to most. Brock about to get another stranglehold on the belt? Not a good surprise. Cena winning a rumble to get back into the title picture he was always in isn't much different. The point is, if WWE is planning a big surprise they will keep it on a need to know basis. This was the case with Seths cash in, which was known to the wrestlers sometime after Seths opening match. Nobody was crying poor Roman then. Or for Romans match with Brock at Mania last year.
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Post by Hobby Drifter on May 20, 2019 20:08:03 GMT -5
WWE knew damn well that the 7 guys in MitB wouldn’t have put on a good show if they knew it was all for Lesnar.
They can say it was to “keep the secret from leaking” but they’re full of it and everyone knows it.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on May 20, 2019 20:28:51 GMT -5
Yes, good, work your employees, keep that shit a secret, have them all die for the secret twist of all their suffering being to elevate Brock Lesnar. This is how you keep your already bitter and pissed off wrestlers wanting to resign with you. If I was Finn, or Ricochet, and I'd just taken all that spinal abuse, just for the embodiment of everything wrong in WWE to walk in and win, and likely get more for his appearance, I would Austin Aries that shit the moment I heard his music.
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Post by Dub H on May 20, 2019 20:29:05 GMT -5
Like Lesnars return after a month or two is a big secret deal.
No mattee the reasonz having someone just enter the match 20+ minutes and win is stupid.Especially one demanding as the MITB.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 23:42:22 GMT -5
Also another clarification, Sean Ross Sapp from Fightful said that before the match everyone was told Ali was winning and even Ali himself was told he was winning. Next thing you know the Lesnar shit happened, damn.
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Post by robferatu on May 21, 2019 0:27:22 GMT -5
Ali could have been that dude man. This sucks. This makes Randy Orton's post-match, "Of f***ing course" facial reaction all the more priceless to me.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on May 21, 2019 0:33:35 GMT -5
This is pretty standard and people are only making a deal out of it because they didn't like the outcome. There are multiple big surprises that WWE has done that are known to as little people as they can get away with for it to work. Cena's rumble return was one of them. Nah people are just f***ing tired of worked shoot nonsense and especially trying to work your unhappy employees. There have been strong negative responses to stuff like this a million times before, it has nothing to do with being mad at the result. They can keep something a secret until the last second when everyone goes out there, nobody's going to be able to DM Meltzer about it from the top of the ladder.
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Post by Nr1Humanoid on May 21, 2019 2:04:45 GMT -5
I love how UFC is equalled to real fights.
Real fights, AKA where you can kick your opponent in the balls and gouge his eyes straigh out of their head.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on May 21, 2019 2:38:51 GMT -5
Also another clarification, Sean Ross Sapp from Fightful said that before the match everyone was told Ali was winning and even Ali himself was told he was winning. Next thing you know the Lesnar shit happened, damn. I assume they told Ali mid-match the real plan, because I can imagine Ali grabbing the case before Lesnar's music gets cued, and the surprise gets ruined that way.
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Post by Dub H on May 21, 2019 7:34:37 GMT -5
They were saying Ali was going to win.I assume only Ali knew there would be a surpsise winner. Man just think about it,everyone thinking "Good for Ali".And then Brock freaking comes out That's not what they were told, though. They were told there was going to be a spot where he was getting shoved off the top of the ladder. Well seems like I wasnt so wrong Also another clarification, Sean Ross Sapp from Fightful said that before the match everyone was told Ali was winning and even Ali himself was told he was winning. Next thing you know the Lesnar shit happened, damn. This company just keeps outdoing itself,so always expect the worst.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on May 21, 2019 7:42:14 GMT -5
Hmm, wonder why guys are unhappy backstage to the point they'd rather work indies or roll the dice with the untested AEW...
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Post by Sparkybob on May 21, 2019 10:15:39 GMT -5
WWE knew damn well that the 7 guys in MitB wouldn’t have put on a good show if they knew it was all for Lesnar. They can say it was to “keep the secret from leaking” but they’re full of it and everyone knows it. Those wrestlers are not 6-year-old kids who throw a tantrum when they are not going to win. I can't imagine those wrestlers making it far in the business when they decide to tank a match because they don't like the winner.
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Post by ChitownKnight on May 21, 2019 10:20:05 GMT -5
WWE knew damn well that the 7 guys in MitB wouldn’t have put on a good show if they knew it was all for Lesnar. They can say it was to “keep the secret from leaking” but they’re full of it and everyone knows it. Those wrestlers are not 6-year-old kids who throw a tantrum when they are not going to win. I can't imagine those wrestlers making it far in the business when they decide to tank a match because they don't like the winner. They might not have tanked it, but I doubt they would Of put the showing they did and rightfully so
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on May 21, 2019 10:21:05 GMT -5
not the best alternative, but couldn't they have told everybody while in the Gorilla Position?
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Post by Sparkybob on May 21, 2019 10:27:57 GMT -5
Those wrestlers are not 6-year-old kids who throw a tantrum when they are not going to win. I can't imagine those wrestlers making it far in the business when they decide to tank a match because they don't like the winner. They might not have tanked it, but I doubt they would Of put the showing they did and rightfully so Why? Ricochet did his stuff because he wanted to put on a good show and get himself moreover with the live audience and the boys in the back. 6 or 7 of these guys were going to lose anyway so they decide to make themselves look as good as possible in defeat.
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Post by ChitownKnight on May 21, 2019 10:29:32 GMT -5
They might not have tanked it, but I doubt they would Of put the showing they did and rightfully so Why? Ricochet did his stuff because he wanted to put on a good show and get himself moreover with the live audience and the boys in the back. 6 or 7 of these guys were going to lose anyway so they decide to make themselves look as good as possible in defeat. Sure, but what does Finn have to prove by taking that nasty bump on the ladder especially when A part timer is winning the case
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Post by Sparkybob on May 21, 2019 10:37:09 GMT -5
Why? Ricochet did his stuff because he wanted to put on a good show and get himself moreover with the live audience and the boys in the back. 6 or 7 of these guys were going to lose anyway so they decide to make themselves look as good as possible in defeat. Sure, but what does Finn have to prove by taking that nasty bump on the ladder especially when A part timer is winning the case Why does Finn take any bigger bumps if he is going to lose a match? Because he is a professional and he wants to get himself moreover with the people in the back and the crowd. It's not like Finn is not getting push because of Brock. If the WWE wanted him in the title scene they can just stick him there.
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