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Post by Hobby Drifter on May 21, 2019 10:44:29 GMT -5
WWE knew damn well that the 7 guys in MitB wouldn’t have put on a good show if they knew it was all for Lesnar. They can say it was to “keep the secret from leaking” but they’re full of it and everyone knows it. Those wrestlers are not 6-year-old kids who throw a tantrum when they are not going to win. I can't imagine those wrestlers making it far in the business when they decide to tank a match because they don't like the winner. Tank a match? No. They're professionals. However, there's a huge difference between going all-out and just doing your job. That Vince McMahon himself felt it was best not to tell the guys involved the finish shows that even HE is aware enough to know that that show these guys put on wouldn't be as good if they knew it was all in service to Brock Lesnar. I mean, FFS, look at what Finn Balor did during that match. He shortened his career, Mick Foley style *twice*. And it's not a matter of "not liking the winner". Brock didn't *need* that and everybody knows it. MitB or no, Brock will be as high as McMahon wants him to be. There's no sense in risking major injury in service to getting *the guy who beat the Streak* over. Put it this way. When Lesnar knew he was going to have a multi-million dollar fight in UFC, he didn't risk injury in his *Wrestlemania* match with Dean Ambrose. He didn't want to risk getting hurt and cost himself an opportunity in the future. The same goes here. If the people in that match had know that their blood, sweat, and bump-counters would be taxed in the name of getting Lesnar "over" they'd have been more cautious.
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Post by KofiMania on May 21, 2019 10:47:37 GMT -5
Those wrestlers are not 6-year-old kids who throw a tantrum when they are not going to win. I can't imagine those wrestlers making it far in the business when they decide to tank a match because they don't like the winner. Tank a match? No. They're professionals. However, there's a huge difference between going all-out and just doing your job. That Vince McMahon himself felt it was best not to tell the guys involved the finish shows that even HE is aware enough to know that that show these guys put on wouldn't be as good if they knew it was all in service to Brock Lesnar. I mean, FFS, look at what Finn Balor did during that match. He shortened his career, Mick Foley style *twice*. And it's not a matter of "not liking the winner". Brock didn't *need* that and everybody knows it. MitB or no, Brock will be as high as McMahon wants him to be. There's no sense in risking major injury in service to getting *the guy who beat the Streak* over. Put it this way. When Lesnar knew he was going to have a multi-million dollar fight in UFC, he didn't risk injury in his *Wrestlemania* match with Dean Ambrose. He didn't want to risk getting hurt and cost himself an opportunity in the future. The same goes here. If the people in that match had know that their blood, sweat, and bump-counters would be taxed in the name of getting Lesnar "over" they'd have been more cautious. You’re projecting your own views of Lesnar onto all of the other wrestlers in the match. It’s highly, highly doubtful that what you’re saying is accurate.
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on May 21, 2019 11:02:41 GMT -5
not sure if this has been posted but this might give you Ali and Orton's opinion on it all
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Post by HMARK Center on May 21, 2019 11:06:15 GMT -5
Reading Raw results...no follow-up on this for any of the non-Brock guys in the match, huh? Wow.
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Post by ChitownKnight on May 21, 2019 11:30:04 GMT -5
not sure if this has been posted but this might give you Ali and Orton's opinion on it all This shows what a stand up guy Orton is. He’s had a great career of his own, but he’s still willing to stick it to the boss and stick up for his younger colleagues
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Post by Alice Syndrome on May 21, 2019 11:56:21 GMT -5
not sure if this has been posted but this might give you Ali and Orton's opinion on it all This shows what a stand up guy Orton is. He’s had a great career of his own, but he’s still willing to stick it to the boss and stick up for his younger colleagues Has been for years. Legacy basically happened because he decided to yell at Vince to let him elevate 2 people who were like him from 6 years before.
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Post by Dub H on May 21, 2019 12:21:58 GMT -5
Those wrestlers are not 6-year-old kids who throw a tantrum when they are not going to win. I can't imagine those wrestlers making it far in the business when they decide to tank a match because they don't like the winner. Tank a match? No. They're professionals. However, there's a huge difference between going all-out and just doing your job. That Vince McMahon himself felt it was best not to tell the guys involved the finish shows that even HE is aware enough to know that that show these guys put on wouldn't be as good if they knew it was all in service to Brock Lesnar. I mean, FFS, look at what Finn Balor did during that match. He shortened his career, Mick Foley style *twice*. And it's not a matter of "not liking the winner". Brock didn't *need* that and everybody knows it. MitB or no, Brock will be as high as McMahon wants him to be. There's no sense in risking major injury in service to getting *the guy who beat the Streak* over. Put it this way. When Lesnar knew he was going to have a multi-million dollar fight in UFC, he didn't risk injury in his *Wrestlemania* match with Dean Ambrose. He didn't want to risk getting hurt and cost himself an opportunity in the future. The same goes here. If the people in that match had know that their blood, sweat, and bump-counters would be taxed in the name of getting Lesnar "over" they'd have been more cautious. Its not a matter of lesnar. It as matter of ANYONE not involved in the match walking in last minute to grab the briefcase. The fact its Lesnar ia just the icing on the cake
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Post by Sparkybob on May 21, 2019 12:44:14 GMT -5
Tank a match? No. They're professionals. However, there's a huge difference between going all-out and just doing your job. That Vince McMahon himself felt it was best not to tell the guys involved the finish shows that even HE is aware enough to know that that show these guys put on wouldn't be as good if they knew it was all in service to Brock Lesnar. I mean, FFS, look at what Finn Balor did during that match. He shortened his career, Mick Foley style *twice*. And it's not a matter of "not liking the winner". Brock didn't *need* that and everybody knows it. MitB or no, Brock will be as high as McMahon wants him to be. There's no sense in risking major injury in service to getting *the guy who beat the Streak* over. Put it this way. When Lesnar knew he was going to have a multi-million dollar fight in UFC, he didn't risk injury in his *Wrestlemania* match with Dean Ambrose. He didn't want to risk getting hurt and cost himself an opportunity in the future. The same goes here. If the people in that match had know that their blood, sweat, and bump-counters would be taxed in the name of getting Lesnar "over" they'd have been more cautious. Its not a matter of lesnar. It as matter of ANYONE not involved in the match walking in last minute to grab the briefcase. The fact its Lesnar ia just the icing on the cake So you have a problem with everyone who has cashed in their MITB after two other dudes/girls have had a long match?
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Post by KofiMania on May 21, 2019 12:50:55 GMT -5
Meltzer reported that those backstage were told Ali was winning, those in the match except Ali were told an 8th mystery man was winning, and Ali was told that it was Brock.
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Post by Dub H on May 21, 2019 13:48:23 GMT -5
Its not a matter of lesnar. It as matter of ANYONE not involved in the match walking in last minute to grab the briefcase. The fact its Lesnar ia just the icing on the cake So you have a problem with everyone who has cashed in their MITB after two other dudes/girls have had a long match? No because they wrestled the MITB which si demanding and it is something that is told and foreshadowed.I do dislike the overuse of it. But I cant really bitch about someone busting their bodies in a 8 Man ladder match getting that moment. This is more along the lines of Hogan and Yokozuna
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Post by Dub H on May 21, 2019 13:50:51 GMT -5
Meltzer reported that those backstage were told Ali was winning, those in the match except Ali were told an 8th mystery man was winning, and Ali was told that it was Brock. Well maybe I was wrong about it after all. It makes ense at least Ali was told it was Brock.
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