I’ve been thinking about this for a while but who are some famous people, be they celebrities, creators, or Internet stars that were originally loved by the public for being for being either talented, virtuous, or at least generally good people that are now despised for something they created, did, or beliefs they shared. The opposite obviously applies too.
Bonus points for celebs that didn’t change at all, but the culture around them changed and they either couldn’t keep up or were proven right in the end.
I’ll start, George Lucas went from being the guy that ruined Star Wars with the prequels and special editions to being pretty well loved these days, and for different reasons. There’s now an entire generation of people that grew up with the prequels and genuinely like them as movies or see them silly fun with endless meme potential. Like wise, newer fans f***ing hate a lot of the original fans for their reactions to the sequel trilogy (misogynistic or otherwise) and see George as the ultimate troll of a bunch of whiney, entitled assholes.
Post by Baldobomb-Paid-Impersonator on Jul 23, 2020 7:45:05 GMT -5
In terms of internet people, Nostalgia Critic went from being an innovator and all around well liked guy to being a guy who refuses to evolve with the times and who enabled disgusting abuses of power by Channel Awesome. He still has his fans but it's a drop in the bucket from what it used to be and all of his former collaborators have abandoned him, except for Brad Jones (who probably also belongs here himself)
I’m not trying to be controversial, but are we including the likes of Bill Cosby, Jimmy Saville etc?
People can post anything they think applies, but personally, I think the more interesting posts are the ones that focus on more unique situations and what they say about the person or culture surrounding them rather than just plain awful things.
Like, I brought up George Lucas because nothing about him changed, it’s just that nerd culture changed.
It’s the same with Keanu Reeves, who was hated for being in crappy movies, didn’t change at all or improve as an actor, but started to gain love him because a meme about him being immortal and lonely took off, the John Wick series happened, and people realized he’s quietly been a great person who donates his paycheck to the CGI and costume teams that he works with and funds children’s hospitals. (f***, that was a long sentence).
Another person I think is unique is Dave Chappelle. He had his peak with the Chappelle Show, was seen as “crazy” because he canceled the third season of the show during its production and (apparently)checked into a mental hospital in South Africa. Later it was revealed that he was just stressed out and canceled his show because he didn’t like how white people were using his jokes to demean black people, making him a hero that turned down millions for the sake of his morals. BUT THEN he came back into the public eye and got in trouble for trans jokes in his first special (in the second special I feel he saved some face) and by his third special was talking about cancel culture and was mad at people for being offended by his jokes, essentially burning away at his hero status and looking like a giant hypocrite.
Joe Rogan at one point was basically the Fear Factor/UFC meathead guy whom people either associated with those shows, his stuff on Newsradio, or for confronting Carlos Mencia. That he's emerged as controversial figure via a ridiculously popular podcast that's interviewed high level figures across political/cultural/economic/sociological lines is a hell of a change.
Joss Whedon's public perception has completely altered; once being the nerd icon who's fantastic efforts in film and television were always hampered by clueless executives until he finally ascended via the Avengers... only to now often be seen as a sleazy Hollywood type with clear flaws in his writing and being outdone by the Russo brothers in terms of meaningful MCU films.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Jul 23, 2020 9:05:54 GMT -5
Ellen Degeneres seems to be going through this right now.
That I got crossed off of the wall And my fingers all bloodied and torn And it's just a lie A poor excuse for all the fumes That I spit out back when I was young And god damn the truth I was unused An empty glass An oarsman and no one knew my name Knew my name
Post by floundertime on Jul 23, 2020 9:34:33 GMT -5
Alex Rodriguez. He was that cheating baseball player who got suspended for a year. Start dating J-lo, appear on shark tank, and do baseball commentary for ESPN and it seems everyone likes him. I’m sure there are some regional areas that might not like him from his baseball days but in general he’s turned it around
Bill Cosby was the one I thought of when I saw this thread. I wasn't a huge Cosby Show fan but I did watch it enough to enjoy it and I had read and watched so much stuff about him that I liked the man I thought he was. The question "WHY" is so prevalent about his actions. Obviously the biggest and really only reason for thinking "WHY?" is because of the hurtful and almost evil nature of what he did. But there's even more to it like why risk your reputation or why do something illegal that many women may have likely consented to (the sex, not the rape of course). I'm sure his wife and family and some co-stars believe in his innocence but he has hurt them just as much as anyone. Someone on drugs of course hurts the honesty of a sport perhaps but ultimately really only hurts themselves, if anyone. Bill Cosby is on another level.
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