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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Apr 18, 2022 15:05:02 GMT -5
The difference is that he debuted as Ricky Steamboat in somewhere. A lot of the pushback on WWE renames in recent years has been that people have been on national television for WWE, even winning championships, and then just getting their names changed mid-stream, and nobody is bothering to explain anything, they're just pretending it's how stuff's been. Not a gimmick change (except 'Butch'), just a sudden, inexplicable, arbitrary decision to yank names around when peopel already know who these people are. In the case of Steamboat, he had that name before he even showed up in JCP, that's a very different story. And even if WWE had changed his name when he came in, that'd be something. But changing Raquel's name when she spent 200 days as a champion on USA Network? That's dumb. That's not comparable. Yeah... Rotunda to IRS is one thing... But NXT has been on the WWE Network for like 9 years and then moved to USA for the past 3 years... it has crossed over with Raw and Smackdown MULTIPLE TIMES... so suddenly being oh this isn't Rowe and Hanson the War Raiders it's Erik and Ivar the Viking Experience... while they are the current NXT Tag Team Champions is kind of insulting to people intelligence. Especially when The Viking Experience sounds like a home-brewed mead someone brings to a party that gives everyone botulism.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Apr 18, 2022 15:07:11 GMT -5
Yeah... Rotunda to IRS is one thing... But NXT has been on the WWE Network for like 9 years and then moved to USA for the past 3 years... it has crossed over with Raw and Smackdown MULTIPLE TIMES... so suddenly being oh this isn't Rowe and Hanson the War Raiders it's Erik and Ivar the Viking Experience... while they are the current NXT Tag Team Champions is kind of insulting to people intelligence. Especially when The Viking Experience sounds like a home-brewed mead someone brings to a party that gives everyone botulism. The 50/50 booking with the Major Brothers Reunion did them no favors... but debuting as the Viking Experience (allegedly they were told like that day that was their name too....) pretty much ensured they wouldn't get over...
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Post by hbkid718 on Apr 18, 2022 15:50:27 GMT -5
Yeah... Rotunda to IRS is one thing... But NXT has been on the WWE Network for like 9 years and then moved to USA for the past 3 years... it has crossed over with Raw and Smackdown MULTIPLE TIMES... so suddenly being oh this isn't Rowe and Hanson the War Raiders it's Erik and Ivar the Viking Experience... while they are the current NXT Tag Team Champions is kind of insulting to people intelligence. Especially when The Viking Experience sounds like a home-brewed mead someone brings to a party that gives everyone botulism. Point taken. You're all right. No matter if the name is good or not, they are insulting our intelligence, but WWE has a habit of doing that like telling us that Veer is making his Raw debut, meanwhile he wrestled on Raw last year.
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Post by cornettesracket on Apr 19, 2022 6:14:10 GMT -5
New names always take some time to get used to, but Katana Chance and Alba Fyre are particularly terrible names. Actually I think Katana Chance is one of the worst names I’ve ever heard. Alba literally means Scottish in Gaelic.. It would be like if they named someone America Jones. It does and I like the name but that’s because I know what alba means. Unless WWE explain what it means than it’s confusing.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Apr 20, 2022 8:04:07 GMT -5
This is what Katana said about her new name in a backstage YouTube interview:
"Everyone knows me as Kacy Catanzaro, and that is me. But there are parts of me that people haven't seen -- except maybe Kayden -- where I get to do what I want," Catanzaro said. "And that's like shooting back straight whiskey and letting loose. And Kayden isn't the only one that can party and shake a little something. That is Katana Chance. And that is the energy that I'll be bringing to NXT from now on."
So basically Katana is Kacy when she gets drunk and she'll now be drunk all the time.
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Post by eJm on Apr 20, 2022 8:08:12 GMT -5
This is what Katana said about her new name in a backstage YouTube interview: "Everyone knows me as Kacy Catanzaro, and that is me. But there are parts of me that people haven't seen -- except maybe Kayden -- where I get to do what I want," Catanzaro said. "And that's like shooting back straight whiskey and letting loose. And Kayden isn't the only one that can party and shake a little something. That is Katana Chance. And that is the energy that I'll be bringing to NXT from now on." So basically Katana is Kacy when she gets drunk and she'll now be drunk all the time. Eh, works for the Usos.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Apr 20, 2022 9:08:11 GMT -5
This is what Katana said about her new name in a backstage YouTube interview: "Everyone knows me as Kacy Catanzaro, and that is me. But there are parts of me that people haven't seen -- except maybe Kayden -- where I get to do what I want," Catanzaro said. "And that's like shooting back straight whiskey and letting loose. And Kayden isn't the only one that can party and shake a little something. That is Katana Chance. And that is the energy that I'll be bringing to NXT from now on." So basically Katana is Kacy when she gets drunk and she'll now be drunk all the time. Katana is Kacy's Brie Mode.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Apr 20, 2022 9:25:31 GMT -5
This is what Katana said about her new name in a backstage YouTube interview: "Everyone knows me as Kacy Catanzaro, and that is me. But there are parts of me that people haven't seen -- except maybe Kayden -- where I get to do what I want," Catanzaro said. "And that's like shooting back straight whiskey and letting loose. And Kayden isn't the only one that can party and shake a little something. That is Katana Chance. And that is the energy that I'll be bringing to NXT from now on." So basically Katana is Kacy when she gets drunk and she'll now be drunk all the time. …OK, so maybe we don’t need to explain EVERY name change.
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Apr 20, 2022 10:07:23 GMT -5
I laughed out loud when she explained her KATANA PERSONA.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Apr 20, 2022 10:25:27 GMT -5
I await the premiere of Von Wagner's new drunksona, Drinkinstein
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Apr 20, 2022 11:22:59 GMT -5
Surprised they haven't recycled the "Tugboat" name and gimmick.
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Post by knsffa on Apr 20, 2022 11:50:04 GMT -5
Grizzled Young Veterans are no more as far as team name goes. Zack Gibson shortened to Gibson and James Drake shortened to Drake.
Return to the UK? Main roster call-up? Heel false farewell and they reappear on 2.0 in a few weeks or less? *Shrugs*
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Apr 20, 2022 11:52:55 GMT -5
Grizzled Young Veterans are no more as far as team name goes. Zack Gibson shortened to Gibson and James Drake shortened to Drake. Return to the UK? Main roster call-up? Heel false farewell and they reappear on 2.0 in a few weeks or less? *Shrugs* Lot of mixed communication here, because the WWE.com writeup of NXT still has them with their full names, with “Gibson and Drake” as the team name. Not like it might make much difference if they’re “leaving”, probably because they’ll be returning as like Bungus and Chungus or something.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2022 11:57:06 GMT -5
So someone watched drunken master and now Kacy is gonna drink mid match no sell and win matches. Well I guess it is better than the god awful tic toc shit they were doing beforehand.
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Post by knsffa on Apr 25, 2022 22:26:26 GMT -5
Based off RAW Talk.... looks like Tommaso Ciampa is now just plain Ciampa. Guess time will tell if the case.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Apr 25, 2022 22:28:51 GMT -5
Based off RAW Talk.... looks like Tommaso Ciampa is now just plain Ciampa. Guess time will tell if the case. Eh. Wasn’t he called that on-and-off in Ring Of Honor anyway?
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Post by Jayson Tatum Paxley on Apr 25, 2022 22:30:02 GMT -5
Based off RAW Talk.... looks like Tommaso Ciampa is now just plain Ciampa. Guess time will tell if the case. Was gonna say, it's not officially confirmed yet but I figure its happening cause the announcers went out of their way to say CIAMPA when he attacked Ali.
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Post by Celexa Bliss 54 on Apr 25, 2022 22:53:48 GMT -5
Raul Mendoza is now Cruz Del Toro, since I didn't see it mentioned in the thread, unless I'm a blind idiot lol
Like... OK, I guess I get it. Vince wants to put the WWE branding machine behind these guys and I get that. But what Vince thinks is going to get over is so vastly different from what the current-day wrestling fan wants. Why did Pete Dunne have to become Butch? Why did Raquel Gonzalez have to become Raquel Rodriguez? Why in god's name are Brennan Williams and Dominick Dijakovic still Mace and T-Bar?? Why would you give German wrestler Marcel Barthel the name Ludwig Kaiser, the most Nazi-sounding name I've ever seen??
Oddly enough, I'm not as bothered by Gunther, even if I think the name is stupid as f***. It's just that it was the first of a series of increasingly bad renames to happen this year.
I do hope they make Del Toro and Fyre explain their new names, as well, though. Just to see if we can get anything as hilariously stupid as Kacy's explanation for "Katana Chance"...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2022 23:18:38 GMT -5
Calling him just "Ciampa" is ok with me. He got off easy, it could have been far worse. If it's just cutting parts of a name out, let alone to a name most people called him by anyway, then shit that's a passing grade to me.
Imagine if they called him Timmy Chomp Chomp or some shit like that.
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Post by Mecca on Apr 25, 2022 23:24:43 GMT -5
Calling him just "Ciampa" is ok with me. He got off easy, it could have been far worse. If it's just cutting parts of a name out, let alone to a name most peopole called him by anyway, then shit that's a passing grade to me. Imagine if they called him Tim Chomp Chomp or some shit like that. Tommy Stromboli
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