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Post by The Rick Jericho on Feb 24, 2024 22:08:44 GMT -5
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Feb 24, 2024 22:32:30 GMT -5
I feel like "acts like a dick" is making fun of what he did to Akiyama.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Feb 24, 2024 22:35:07 GMT -5
Eh, Danielson has always mostly been an asshole in AEW, except for when MJF was being an even bigger asshole to him.
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Post by Cyno on Feb 24, 2024 22:42:50 GMT -5
#NigelWasRight
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Post by Chiral on Feb 24, 2024 22:47:51 GMT -5
I was CACKLING. Amazing character work to have him on his quest to have the best dream matches to check one off AND be able to beat up Eddie Kingston's mentor in front of him. AND get him to shake his hand afterwards like "LOOK EDDIE YOUR MENTOR RESPECTS *ME*" [kicks Akiyama in balls]
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 24, 2024 22:58:43 GMT -5
Danielson is so good at this he can be the most beloved face or the most deplorable heel and he can do it at the snap of a finger, and everyone buys in
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Post by Slammy Award-Winning Cannibal on Feb 24, 2024 23:04:37 GMT -5
I still don’t understand why Bryan is a heel in AEW, especially when they’re desperately hurting at the moment for true babyfaces, but whatever.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 24, 2024 23:05:35 GMT -5
I still don’t understand why Bryan is a heel in AEW, especially when they’re desperately hurting at the moment for true babyfaces, but whatever. He's not really a heel, he's whatever he wants to be I just said it but he is whatever the story dictates, and he knows he won't get cheered over Kingston, so he doesn't respect Kingston All of BCC are faces or heels depending on where they are needed.
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Post by Celexa Bliss 54 on Feb 24, 2024 23:51:56 GMT -5
He's not really a heel, he's whatever he wants to be I just said it but he is whatever the story dictates, and he knows he won't get cheered over Kingston, so he doesn't respect Kingston All of BCC are faces or heels depending on where they are needed. So they're wildly inconsistently written characters there's no point in getting invested in basically. I wouldn't say that. Mox, Danielson and Castagnoli are clearly well-liked by the crowd, but they're also colossal assholes who don't give a shit if they get cheered or booed. If you want to get technical about it, I'd say they've been heels since the beginning of the feud with The Elite. Mox and Danielson have had moments where they faced guys who were bigger heels than them, making them the default faces. But they haven't changed their attitude or presentation for those programs.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Feb 24, 2024 23:55:40 GMT -5
He's not really a heel, he's whatever he wants to be I just said it but he is whatever the story dictates, and he knows he won't get cheered over Kingston, so he doesn't respect Kingston All of BCC are faces or heels depending on where they are needed. So they're wildly inconsistently written characters there's no point in getting invested in basically. You could say that if the crowd didn't react to them every time they come out.
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Post by Chiral on Feb 24, 2024 23:56:06 GMT -5
IDK I feel like BCC are some of my more preferred takes I've seen of tweeners. they're dicks that wanna hurt people, but they also want the best competition and from that have a sense of honor/respect so if you kick their asses enough when they're after you they'll back off. But they're also little shitheads. My very scientific chart on where the BCC boys are atm on the BCC Alignment Spectrum™ based on my vibes
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 25, 2024 0:06:45 GMT -5
He's not really a heel, he's whatever he wants to be I just said it but he is whatever the story dictates, and he knows he won't get cheered over Kingston, so he doesn't respect Kingston All of BCC are faces or heels depending on where they are needed. So they're wildly inconsistently written characters there's no point in getting invested in basically. No? Not at all They're rogues, they fight who they want to fight and that indicates their characterization We've seen this in wrestling all the time, this isn't new. And if you're going to act like people don't get invested, the crowd reaction in ever town indicates they very clearly do no matter the opponent.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 25, 2024 0:19:03 GMT -5
No? Not at all They're rogues, they fight who they want to fight and that indicates their characterization We've seen this in wrestling all the time, this isn't new. And if you're going to act like people don't get invested, the crowd reaction in ever town indicates they very clearly do no matter the opponent. I'm not saying they're not over, I'm just saying that to me their stories come off as boring wastes of time because what they're doing today never has any bearing on what they're doing tomorrow. And in general it just feels like they drift from conflict to conflict never seeming to have any actual goal beyond, "Grr, we're tough." It's the talent of the performers carrying a limp gimmick. The Danielson/Kingston feud has been going on for months, the goal is Danielson wants to embarrass Eddie and take his belts The CMLL feud has been going on for weeks, the goal is for them to show these newcomers they're not letting them in the company without showing they're the ones to go through The FTR/Feud has also been going on for weeks, the goal being they want to prove who the best tag team in the company is, and FTR and Mox/Claudio's promos tonight only solidified that All of these are cohesive storylines that are indicative of BCC's main objective as a stable, fight everyone, gatekeep AEW and prove they're the ones to go through from all sides, prove they're still the best all around wrestlers in the entire company I wouldn't call the gimmick limp in the slightest, their promos are always good, and it helps people invest in their matches or feuds at any given time, even Yuta if he wasn't injured right now.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Feb 25, 2024 0:24:12 GMT -5
He's not really a heel, he's whatever he wants to be I just said it but he is whatever the story dictates, and he knows he won't get cheered over Kingston, so he doesn't respect Kingston All of BCC are faces or heels depending on where they are needed. So they're wildly inconsistently written characters there's no point in getting invested in basically. Well no, BCC are ocnsistent in that they are the characters they are, and the ways that that plays out varies by conflict because they're inherently reactive characters. Danielson can have a BIG HONOR RESPECT match against a guy he goes to war with and thinks is a 'worthy' wrestler, and run down Kingston as a failure bum whose career is one big disgrace. CJ described it very poorly, and a better way to put it is they're tweeners by way of intense consistency as characters, rather than flexibility. They are static, and it's from that point that whoever they're feuding with puts them into the light they're in.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 25, 2024 0:27:26 GMT -5
So they're wildly inconsistently written characters there's no point in getting invested in basically. Well no, BCC are ocnsistent in that they are the characters they are, and the ways that that plays out varies by conflict because they're inherently reactive characters. Danielson can have a BIG HONOR RESPECT match against a guy he goes to war with and thinks is a 'worthy' wrestler, and run down Kingston as a failure bum whose career is one big disgrace. CJ described it very poorly, and a better way to put it is they're tweeners by way of intense consistency as characters, rather than flexibility. They are static, and it's from that point that whoever they're feuding with puts them into the light they're in. Oh Yeah? WELL- (But yeah basically)
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Post by IgnahtaSempria on Feb 25, 2024 0:32:02 GMT -5
BCC are the same alignment/characters as Minoru Suzuki: they're dickheads who like fighting and hurting people. If the crowd cheers them, so be it. If the crowd boos them, so be it.
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Post by TOK Hehe'd Around & Found Out on Feb 25, 2024 0:32:30 GMT -5
He's not really a heel, he's whatever he wants to be I just said it but he is whatever the story dictates, and he knows he won't get cheered over Kingston, so he doesn't respect Kingston All of BCC are faces or heels depending on where they are needed. So they're wildly inconsistently written characters there's no point in getting invested in basically. They're incredibly consistent characters. They're a team because they practice pro wrestling as a hyper-violent school of martial arts and want to be the most respected practitioners due to their skill and years of accomplishments...plus they let that little shit Yuta tag along occasionally. Mox is the ultimate competitor and views the art as an "anything goes" type deal but respects the hell out of anyone who can step to his level in a way that the other's in the group don't. Claudio has a massive chip on his shoulder due to his WWE stint and wants to just wreck people and show that he's worthy of being on the same level as Mox and Danielson, but if he's feeling comfortable in how he's doing in a match he'll still play to the crowd with a Giant Spin or UFO. Yuta's their young boy who desperately wants to have their mentorship after the fans turned on him for being blander than Matt Taven. And Danielson is the same arrogant dickhead who wants everyone to know that he's the best wrestler ever despite being a pasty 5'9" clamdigger from Washington State, which sometimes leads to things like the Yes Movement and having a war with Morishima after having his eyeball knocked out of its socket, and other times it leads to him grinding on submission holds after a rope break while harassing the ref that he has until 5 or turning on ROH during the Cage of Death because he didn't feel like they respected him enough or kicking Akiyama in the dick because he knew it would mess with Kingston. They tone down different characteristics depending on the feud but they've all been super consistent throughout their entire AEW runs, and in Danielson's (and arguably Mox's) case for an entire career.
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Post by bearned on Feb 25, 2024 0:38:49 GMT -5
It would be great if the only titles he wins in AEW are taken from Eddie.
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Post by GOTHIC CHARISMA 🧊 🥶❄️FURY on Feb 25, 2024 1:28:54 GMT -5
IDK I feel like BCC are some of my more preferred takes I've seen of tweeners. they're dicks that wanna hurt people, but they also want the best competition and from that have a sense of honor/respect so if you kick their asses enough when they're after you they'll back off. But they're also little shitheads. My very scientific chart on where the BCC boys are atm on the BCC Alignment Spectrum™ based on my vibes i like how even in a random graph yuta is in the corner on his own being a gremlin
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Post by ayumidah on Feb 25, 2024 2:30:39 GMT -5
IDK I feel like BCC are some of my more preferred takes I've seen of tweeners. they're dicks that wanna hurt people, but they also want the best competition and from that have a sense of honor/respect so if you kick their asses enough when they're after you they'll back off. But they're also little shitheads. My very scientific chart on where the BCC boys are atm on the BCC Alignment Spectrum™ based on my vibes i like how even in a random graph yuta is in the corner on his own being a gremlin no wonder I like him
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