Hogan On Bubba The Love Sponge Today...

[Ben Wyatt]

areyouready said:

drbackflipshoffman said:

Hahaha!! what?!?!

Oh so you knew going into Summerslam 05 that Hogan was going over?

Or did you know going into WM18 that Rock was going over?

Or going into KOTR 2002 that Angle was going over?

Hogan's history of winning/losing since 2002 hasn't been at all predictable apart from maybe the Orton/Hassan match

Yes that was very obvious

Yes, the build-up clearly pointed at the Rock getting his revenge after the nWo almost killed him

I'll give you Angle and Lsenar as surprises.

Then Hogan goes over Michaels....which was obvious to anyone with an IQ above 15

Then Hogan needlessly goes over Orton

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theboss said:

mightykretzler said:

Nay. Hogan could've put Orton over. I can't stand Orton, but it was the least hogan could do to put the dude over. Until Rated-RKO, Randy was in limbo.

First of all Huckster did put Orton over. Jobbing and putting someone over are diffarent things. Orton got more exposure from his match with Hucksterthan in any other point in his career.

Second, if he had beaten Huckster the WWF would have had no choice but to continue the legend killer gimmick. Randy would be seen only fighting guys over fifty. Maybe Greg Gagne would be next.

Fixed.

And Orton jobbed to the leg drop of doom to a crusty old man with a fake hip who moves .000000000000000000000001% as fast as THE GREAT KHALI in a quick match. Last time I checked, that isn't putting someone over.

[Ben Wyatt]

areyouready said:

theslickness said:

Orton in an abortion of a match at Summerslam.

You mean an abomination of a match, surely?

I said what I said.....


Side note: I was there in person and that match was putrid

[Cousin Judge]

theslickness said:

areyouready said:

Oh so you knew going into Summerslam 05 that Hogan was going over?

Or did you know going into WM18 that Rock was going over?

Or going into KOTR 2002 that Angle was going over?

Hogan's history of winning/losing since 2002 hasn't been at all predictable apart from maybe the Orton/Hassan match

Yes that was very obvious

Yes, the build-up clearly pointed at the Rock getting his revenge after the nWo almost killed him

I'll give you Angle and Lsenar as surprises.

Then Hogan goes over Michaels....which was obvious to anyone with an IQ above 15

Then Hogan needlessly goes over Orton

So out of 4 matches, 2 were 'surprise' results.

How the hell does that count as "predictable"?

[Ben Wyatt]

areyouready said:

theslickness said:

Yes that was very obvious

Yes, the build-up clearly pointed at the Rock getting his revenge after the nWo almost killed him

I'll give you Angle and Lsenar as surprises.

Then Hogan goes over Michaels....which was obvious to anyone with an IQ above 15

Then Hogan needlessly goes over Orton

So out of 4 matches, 2 were 'surprise' results.

How the hell does that count as "predictable"?

I forgot Hogan going over Vince (obvious)

The aforementioned Hassan/Divari tag match w/HBK

Hogan going over HHH (this after HHH returns from injury riding a huge wave of popularity only to be snuffed out by Hogan)

[Cousin Judge]

theslickness said:

areyouready said:

So out of 4 matches, 2 were 'surprise' results.

How the hell does that count as "predictable"?

I forgot Hogan going over Vince (obvious)

The aforementioned Hassan/Divari tag match w/HBK

Hogan going over HHH (this after HHH returns from injury riding a huge wave of popularity only to be snuffed out by Hogan)

But you're just naming Hogan victories and declaring them predictable in retrospect.

Okay then so all of Austin's wins were predictabe, as were Undertakers,Foleys, Warriors, Rocks, LOD's, Earthquakes, Greg Valentines, Mounties, Piper's, Carlito's, Dusty's Meng's, Andre's Big Bully Busicks and Papa Shango's

[The Boss]

theslickness said:

I forgot Hogan going over Vince (obvious)

Oh and "Stinko's" (multiple) matches with McMahon weren't predictable?[/quote]

Hogan going over HHH (this after HHH returns from injury riding a huge wave of popularity only to be snuffed out by Hogan)[/quote]
Granted Helmsley was over at the time. But even more so was HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN who was receiving pops that lasted through commercial breaks.

[MGH]

theboss said:

theslickness said:

I forgot Hogan going over Vince (obvious)

Oh and "Stinko's" (multiple) matches with McMahon weren't predictable?

Hogan going over HHH (this after HHH returns from injury riding a huge wave of popularity only to be snuffed out by Hogan)
Granted Helmsley was over at the time. But even more so was HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN who was receiving pops that lasted through commercial breaks.

Pops don't equal ratings there man. And neither did Hogan's reign

[Ben Wyatt]

areyouready said:

theslickness said:

I forgot Hogan going over Vince (obvious)

The aforementioned Hassan/Divari tag match w/HBK

Hogan going over HHH (this after HHH returns from injury riding a huge wave of popularity only to be snuffed out by Hogan)

But you're just naming Hogan victories and declaring them predictable in retrospect.

Okay then so all of Austin's wins were predictabe, as were Undertakers,Foleys, Warriors, Rocks, LOD's, Earthquakes, Greg Valentines, Mounties, Piper's, Carlito's, Dusty's Meng's, Andre's Big Bully Busicks and Papa Shango's

Hogan's matches were for the most part very predictable to most. Aside from his brief stint in 02 and again 03 (where he put over Angle, Rock and Lesnar clean...and lost to Taker and Rock..a second time via screwjob finishes) you can easily spot Hogan victories a mile away.

Seriously ask yourself: for one second did you honestly think Michaels or Randy Orton had a prayer of going over in either of their feuds with Hogan?

[Ben Wyatt]

mygreatesthour said:

theboss said:

Oh and "Stinko's" (multiple) matches with McMahon weren't predictable?

Hogan going over HHH (this after HHH returns from injury riding a huge wave of popularity only to be snuffed out by Hogan)
Granted Helmsley was over at the time. But even more so was HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN who was receiving pops that lasted through commercial breaks.

Pops don't equal ratings there man. And neither did Hogan's reign

The ratings for Hogan's pity/nostalgia reign went sharply downhill week by week during his short riegn

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areyouready said:

theslickness said:

I forgot Hogan going over Vince (obvious)

The aforementioned Hassan/Divari tag match w/HBK

Hogan going over HHH (this after HHH returns from injury riding a huge wave of popularity only to be snuffed out by Hogan)

But you're just naming Hogan victories and declaring them predictable in retrospect.

Okay then so all of Austin's wins were predictabe, as were Undertakers,Foleys, Warriors, Rocks, LOD's, Earthquakes, Greg Valentines, Mounties, Piper's, Carlito's, Dusty's Meng's, Andre's Big Bully Busicks and Papa Shango's

The only thing I EVER found unpredictable about Hogan was when he turned heel. Otherwise? Pfffffffft.

[The Boss]

mygreatesthour said:

Pops don't equal ratings there man. And neither did Hogan's reign

On the contrary. The WWF's ratings had been in a tailspin for months consistently getting lower each and every week. During HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN'S reign the ratings finally leveled off as fans started to stay and watch. Unfortunately HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN'S reign didn't last long enough to see if the ratings would go back up. But he did stop the long running ratings fall.

[Ben Wyatt]

theboss said:

mygreatesthour said:

Pops don't equal ratings there man. And neither did Hogan's reign

On the contrary. The WWF's ratings had been in a tailspin for months consistently getting lower each and every week. During HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN'S reign the ratings finally leveled off as fans started to stay and watch. Unfortunately HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN'S reign didn't last long enough to see if the ratings would go back up. But he did stop the long running ratings fall.

No. No he didnt

[The Boss]

theslickness said:

Hogan's matches were for the most part very predictable to most. Aside from his brief stint in 02 and again 03 (where he put over Angle, Rock and Lesnar clean...and lost to Taker and Rock..a second time via screwjob finishes) you can easily spot Hogan victories a mile away.

Seriously ask yourself: for one second did you honestly think Michaels or Randy Orton had a prayer of going over in either of their feuds with Hogan?

What about in WCW where he jobbed to Billy Kidman, Vampiro, The Wall (of all people) Horace Boulder, Jacques Rousseau (tell me that wasn't a shock) Ric Flair, Arn Anderson, Sting, Bill GoldTURD (one of the saddest days in pro wrestling), Roddy Piper (especially the cage match) among others.

[The Boss]

theslickness said:

theboss said:

On the contrary. The WWF's ratings had been in a tailspin for months consistently getting lower each and every week. During HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN'S reign the ratings finally leveled off as fans started to stay and watch. Unfortunately HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN'S reign didn't last long enough to see if the ratings would go back up. But he did stop the long running ratings fall.

No. No he didnt

Oh yes he did. As I said he wasn't champion long enough to see if the ratings would go back up, (I'm sure they would have) but HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN is the man that stopped the ratings tailspin.

[Ben Wyatt]

theboss said:

theslickness said:

Hogan's matches were for the most part very predictable to most. Aside from his brief stint in 02 and again 03 (where he put over Angle, Rock and Lesnar clean...and lost to Taker and Rock..a second time via screwjob finishes) you can easily spot Hogan victories a mile away.

Seriously ask yourself: for one second did you honestly think Michaels or Randy Orton had a prayer of going over in either of their feuds with Hogan?

What about in WCW where he jobbed to Billy Kidman, Vampiro, The Wall (of all people) Horace Boulder, Jacques Rousseau (tell me that wasn't a shock) Ric Flair, Arn Anderson, Sting, Bill GoldTURD (one of the saddest days in pro wrestling), Roddy Piper (especially the cage match) among others.

Ok, Ill go name by name:

Kidman: Hogan destroyed him 1 on 1. Kidman "went over" via handicap matches and/or chair screwjobs

Vampiro: Nope

Wall: No contest finish

Horace: Nope. I recall Hogan kicking his ass

Rougeau was a HOUSE SHOW in Rougueau's hometown....and his retirement match. What a terrific guy Hulk is for putting him over in a nontelivised match that was never talked about on tv

Anderson : 2 screwjob finishes

Sting: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You're hilarious if youre telling me he didnt f*** sting over at Starracde and the rematch, where Sting never went over clean, despite the 18 month chase of Hogan and his title, and what should have been the culmination of the nWo

Piper: Ok. He put over 40something year old Piper once cleanly, once via screwjob, but kicked his ass the other times

Goldberg: He put Goldberg over, then he and Nash did a tag team ass-raping of his title reign, push, crowd heat and basically his career with the way his reignj has handled, and the fingerpoke of doom fiasco

Flair: You're effing kidding me, right? Hogan beat Flair about 36 different times with Flair beating Hogan twice via 2 screwjobs (David Turning on Ric, and the first blood match clusterf*** involving Lil Naitch)

To summarize:

Hogan lost via shady circumstances to most of the above guys. That is not putting anyone over. Period.

Please get your lips off Hogan's saggy orange ass

[candybar]

Whether you want to see Hogan or not I think he has every right to ask for whatever amount HE thinks he's worth. I mean, what if Vince had said yes, then Hogan gets a boatload of money for doing diddly, if Vince had said no then Hogan, who isn't in need of the money, sits around the pool and does diddly. So why not ask for it.

[Hemmeorrhage]

This comes down to how much his crying orange saggy ass really needs the cash. Hogan looks stupid going on radio and claiming he is basically the only guy worthy of making any money on the card. Also, when Hogan jobbed to Angle and Lesnar, he was a full time active wrestler who was not coming out to nostalgia pops. Hogan was coming out to indifferent Carlito like pops because seeing Hogan weekly gets old really quick. Hogan had no leverage. When he played hardball with Mcmahon, Mcmahon fired him right in the middle of that horrid Cartain America angle which was unfortunanetly the focus of Smackdown, but was drawing miserably.

["Hollywood" Cactus Matt]

thelariet said:

Can someone tell me why it's Wrong for Hogan to NOT JOB to the current roster?

What has ANYONE done thats worthy of Hogan passing the torch???

How about not be in his 50's?

I'm sorry, but I'm 26 years old and both of my knees are shot, but I guaran-damn-tee that I could at least go neck-and-neck with a moderately-athletic 50-something-year-old guy.

What did Hogan ever do to get the Iron Shiek to not break his effin' leg like he was offered?? Hmm?

[angryfan]

karisma888 said:

ejm said:

I dunno about anyone else, but the prospect of Hogan having his own Wrestling Company scares the daylights out of me.

I think him and Nash in charge of a company together sounds like a sitcom in the making.

Let's see. One fake hip, one constantly exploding quad (from the most mundane things), throw iin some time-travel, a holographic Ed Leslie constantly in search of various things to snort, while screaming nonsensically about a vendetta against Chip from My Three Sons, and just a pinch of a talking Hummer (the car, you perverts) like Kit from Knight Rider, and I think I can work with that.