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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2007 8:26:03 GMT -5
They're going through the same phase they were in '93 - '96.
Eventually, they'll realize that this stuff isn't working and take a more realistic approach to their product.
Just a matter of time.
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Post by mysterydriver on Nov 28, 2007 8:39:00 GMT -5
Just a few things I wanted to point out about WWE and the "reality" it presents...
Undertaker: Undead Wrestler who has been "killed" numerous times (usually in a burning casket) but returns everytime. He can turn lights on with his hands, can set off lightning bolts, possess people, and numerous other "mystical" things.
Kane: The Burned (But not really burned) Brother of the Undertaker who also shares Taker's power. I guess it is hereditary...oh, he has the power of "Fire" because of his past.
Boogeyman: Lives in a bottomless pit. Can transport to anywhere he chooses, bringing red light and smog with him, and can spawn off smaller versions of himself at anytime.
Hornswoggle: A magical leprechaun with powers to materialize anywhere and pull off "Looney Tune" style antics. He also lives under the ring.
Umaga: Untamed Samoan Savage who apparently travels by himself and can communicate with others if in need of tag partners. He is wild...but civilized. Or something like that.
Snitsky: A big man who apparently "snapped" and stopped grooming himself in order to become an unstoppable monster.
Deuce and Domino: 50s style Greasers who apparently haven't figured out what time frame that they are in.
Festus: Unstoppable redneck, big man set off by a bell including a visable transformation.
Lets face it, WWE doesn't always focus on reality and is just putting on a show. Raw is usually the bearer of comedy skits like this and the show that most often has less realistic comedy. Smackdown tries to put "realistic" spins on its stuff (Boogeyman was a failed actor, Festus has a history not yet develed into).
I've never understood getting mad at a product. I got mad when Triple H beat the Tag Champions, had to be taken down after the bell by both and Carlito before being saved by Londrick and mauling Carlito (again), then choosing to attack Londrick for no apparent reason. Because of this, I just switched the channel whenever HHH was on for a few weeks until I got over it.
Pick and choose. Pick and choose. It is the same advice other people give. If you see Hornswoggle, change the channel if you don't like him. It worked for me and it can work for you! Just call my toll free...oops...sorry. I went into a spiel...
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Post by willywonka666 on Nov 28, 2007 8:47:18 GMT -5
I have no problem with some of the wilder stuff like Undertaker shooting lightning and stuff. I understand that's his thing. But to take a page out of the Warner Brothers cartoon handbook?
Sorry that just sounds extremely lame. Maybe if it hadn't already been done on a cartoon I first saw when I was 4.
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Post by krazysane on Nov 28, 2007 10:34:28 GMT -5
God I loved that segment. one of my fav things on raw is hornswoggle. I cant help but like this guy and gimmick. Its funny and entertaining to me. So i enjoy it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2007 11:24:53 GMT -5
Hornswaggle is too small and can't work!
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Post by Avalanche Alvarez on Nov 28, 2007 11:43:38 GMT -5
It's lazy writing when you rip off cartoons for your skits. SOMEONE'S getting a bonus.
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Post by GaTechGrad on Nov 28, 2007 12:06:15 GMT -5
For some reason, the WWE writers just have the urge to do every Looney Tunes gag ever on RAW. You can bet that before too long Carlito will be running off of a cliff and an anvil will be dropped on him.
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Post by celtics543 on Nov 28, 2007 12:34:15 GMT -5
I know it's not popular but I liked it. It was a harmless segment that got a little chuckle out of me, pretty much because of how Carlito sold it. It's a wrestling show, but like Bobby Heenan said, "this business could use a little comedy". Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the wrestling the most, but the comedy is good too. If I can turn off Raw at 11:08 and feel like I've been entertained, than I'm happy, and I could do that this week. Hornswaggle didn't make Raw for me, but he certainly didn't ruin it.
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Post by poi zen rana on Nov 28, 2007 12:40:18 GMT -5
i have no problem at all with comedy in wrestling i just don't find hornswoggle that funny. again however, it wasn't a big deal and only took up a little time so no real harm.
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Post by Eunös ✈ on Nov 28, 2007 13:22:03 GMT -5
I was just waiting for the "That's all Folks" Billboard to come up. I don't care much for Hornswoggle, Personally can't wait for Randy Orton to kick him in the Head
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Nov 28, 2007 13:24:42 GMT -5
Hornswoggle- at least in the role of babyface- bores me, so I'm not a fan of the segments. They're not all that funny.
However, I have to admit that I'm baffled as to how one could be outraged and offended by them.
If I wanted something that I could find truly meaningful, I wouldn't turn to a wrestling show if I were you.
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Post by jamofpearls on Nov 28, 2007 13:25:48 GMT -5
This is all part of the glory of having a dvr, and just recording raw. I can fast forward all the nonsense, and watch a great 45 min wrestling program.
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Post by Mr. Emoticon Man, TF Fan on Nov 28, 2007 13:26:38 GMT -5
Personally, I like the Hornswaggle segments so long as they're not the main focus of the show. I watch wrestling to be entertained, and Hornswaggle comedy bits entertain me just as much as actual wrestling does. Even more so, in some cases.
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Post by lildude8218 on Nov 28, 2007 13:41:22 GMT -5
There's an angry mouse who has something to say:
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Nov 28, 2007 14:11:06 GMT -5
Ok, for those who accept the Undertaker's magical powers but don't like Hornswoggle's comedy bits....please explain why. Please explain why a guy shooting lightning from his hands is somehow believeable (I know it's not, but in terms of kayfabe it is), but Hornswoggle painting an escape on a wall and running away is not.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Nov 28, 2007 14:20:23 GMT -5
Ok, for those who accept the Undertaker's magical powers but don't like Hornswoggle's comedy bits....please explain why. Please explain why a guy shooting lightning from his hands is somehow believeable (I know it's not, but in terms of kayfabe it is), but Hornswoggle painting an escape on a wall and running away is not. Neither are believable at all. However, that's not the issue- not with me at least, because I think the segments suck. The debate with me is whether or not we should be offended by them, and I'm on the side of "no".
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Post by Next Level was WRONG on Nov 28, 2007 14:24:28 GMT -5
There's an angry mouse who has something to say: Am I the only one who imagined the mouse having the voice of James Earl Jones?
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Post by chunkylover53 on Nov 28, 2007 14:43:12 GMT -5
I'll tell you this much, the 2 camera angle made it look so goddamn fake. Couldn't they just put in some graphics where we SEE him run through the wall?
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Nov 28, 2007 14:43:58 GMT -5
Ok, for those who accept the Undertaker's magical powers but don't like Hornswoggle's comedy bits....please explain why. Please explain why a guy shooting lightning from his hands is somehow believeable (I know it's not, but in terms of kayfabe it is), but Hornswoggle painting an escape on a wall and running away is not. Neither are believable at all. However, that's not the issue- not with me at least, because I think the segments suck. The debate with me is whether or not we should be offended by them, and I'm on the side of "no". How is that Hornswoggle segment offensive at all? Unless you're Chuck Jones...then maybe. Otherwise, no one should be offended by it.
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Post by willywonka666 on Nov 28, 2007 14:55:48 GMT -5
For some reason, the WWE writers just have the urge to do every Looney Tunes gag ever on RAW. You can bet that before too long Carlito will be running off of a cliff and an anvil will be dropped on him. That would be a goodd way for him to make his exit. they might just do that...
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