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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 2, 2009 23:29:59 GMT -5
Though I think Sunnys comments are pretty classless and hypocritical, how in the hell would Lacy not know who she is? Maybe Lacey wasn't a teenage boy during the height of Sunny's popularity. I dunno, as someone who grew up in the business, and is a woman, you would think she would have a vague idea of who Sunny is. Its kinda like her not knowing who Sable, Sherri Martel, or Elizabeth are.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 2, 2009 23:08:25 GMT -5
I like that Keller is making up crap about such inane things in the first place. OMG JOE GOT UPSET ABOUT A CATERING SERVICE!!!
Even if it were true, would anyone still give a crap?
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 2, 2009 22:58:23 GMT -5
Though I think Sunnys comments are pretty classless and hypocritical, how in the hell would Lacy not know who she is?
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 2, 2009 22:54:43 GMT -5
I dont like to yell NEWZ but I cant see AJ being frustrated if he wasn't ever upset about that long heel stint where he was booked to look like a dorky idiot.
Daniels was Curryman for a year...why would he now be upset about being legitimate again instead of a comedy jobber? Again, find it kinda hard to believe.
As for Kaz, I really dont care if he is upset. He could have just refused the Suicide thing...did anyone ever believe that was going to go anywhere? Apparently just him. I was surprised they even got any mileage or a title run out of the whole thing. He had an attitude problem in WWE too, didn't even want to cut his hair for a push. So, even though I really enjoy him as a performer I am going to say that considering his accomplishments and standing in the business versus attitude he should just be happy he gets a paycheck.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 2, 2009 22:44:27 GMT -5
When you say his gimmick was not cool, I assume you mean the earrings and the quite ambiguous look? I just ask because I thought that was AWESOME. Nobody had looked like that before in wrestling and it is still one of the coolest things ever for me. You have...odd taste. He just looked like a gay stripper to me. He dressed like one of the village people twenty years after the fact. Walk into a leather bar or a gay pride parade and you will see a lot of HBKs walking around. Not that I find that offensive or any such nonsense, just...for a wrestler, dressing like an even more flamboyant Mr. Slave isn't something that strikes me as cool or appealing. It worked for him as a heel, but when he became a face I still hated him and thought he was annoying. I didn't like HBK until he came back after his back injury. Even to this day he just has this heelish aura to me where I root against him the majority of the time, although that has cooled a bit for me. In situations where he is supposed to be a heel, like against Hogan or Cena, this works because even though I do not like either of those guys I wanted them to win in both situations.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 2, 2009 21:05:50 GMT -5
Gore and violence make good horror movies now. Good to know ratings make everything. I just want a decent movie. Other horror movies have proven that you can do something great with minimal gore. I could give a f*** less about the rating. NOES was never built on minimal gore. We are not talking about Halloween, Texas Chainsaw Massacre or Psycho here. Would you be happy with a Hills Have Eyes remake that had no gore or very little? Cannibal Holocaust? If you are going to remake a film based on disturbing gore scenes, well, you should include those. Otherwise its fairly pointless beyond the obvious cash in.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 2, 2009 16:02:31 GMT -5
She looks like a Barbie doll, and until recently, always wrestled mean evil faces like Beth, so the crowds knew who to pop for. I don't know that I'd say she really got over. You could swap in Maryse for her one week (just have Maryse not talk and do the same mannerisms and blank-eyed stare) and the crowds would react the same way. Most people probably wouldn't even notice the difference. I dont care for her. About the only time I was ever interested in anything involving her was when Sandman caned her...but at least she is more useful than Torrie Wilson or Stacy Keibler.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 2, 2009 15:56:44 GMT -5
Way more unique reversals based on wrestling style. See Fire Pro or DoR series.
Ability to break up moves...at the very least, finishers. Preferably all of them though.
Weapons and tables in HIAC matches. Better Cell overall, again like DoR.
The ability to roll out of the ring when you are laying down.
Better AI, and customizable AI ala Fire Pro like someone else said. Maybe only the hardcore types will want to bother with tweaking AI but the option should still be there. Its annoying that every wrestler fights the same and not in anyway realistic.
More editability for wrestlers included on the roster. Its good that we can now change their costume colors, but we may as well be able to edit their outfits and stats as well. It would help to allow you to keep the game up to date as time goes on.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 2, 2009 15:46:45 GMT -5
Because shes really hot?
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 2, 2009 15:39:04 GMT -5
Except that The Rock was ridicilously over after turning face in 1999 and in 2000 he was already recieving Austin type pops from the crowds. And the difference between The Rock and Triple H is that The Rock got over by himself, whereas Triple H rode HBK's coattails first in DX and then got the entire WWF roster fed to him because the creative team was hellbent on making him the new #1 top heel. And I would like some elaboration on how Triple H supposedly carried The Rock in their matches. The Rock always had great ring psychology and got the crowd involved like not many others can, I might even call The Rock a little underrated as an in ring performer, as everybody always just remembers him as microphone guy. His monkey poo promos were not funny, though. Triple H, regardless of opinion on the man, is a vastly superior wrestler to The Rock, and is clearly the man dictating the pace and calling their matches, and they're the only Rock matches I can sit through. As regards overness with the crowd, that really isn't a factor in whether I like a wrestler. I enjoy what I enjoy, and to me, the Rock in the main event was embarrasing because of his horrible (to me) matches and daft promos. Eh, thats like me saying Hogan should not have held the belt in 2002 because I thought he was too old at that point and it made me roll my eyes to see him going over guys like HHH and Jericho, or Hogan shouldn't have held the WCW belt for so long because he was putting on bad matches constantly and would sometimes go months without wrestling. He was drawing tremendous heat and money. Not putting the belt on him would have been a terrible business decision, same as not putting the title on Rock.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 2, 2009 6:07:03 GMT -5
That right there is how you build stars. Imagine how much it would do for say, Swagger, if he were to have a match like that with Cena where he goes toe to toe with him and falls just short? It happened already. I am talking about in context of his current push. I know about the Draft Match. which, by the way did NOT have anywhere close to the feel of this match. It was the standard "heel beats on Cena for ten minutes while he kicks out of everything done to him but never once goes for any pins or hits any big moves on the heel, then hits the FU, locks in the STF and makes him tap" scenario we have seen a million times when a midcard heel faces Cena. I am talking about have a real back and forth match. Really, just replace Swagger with anyone on RAW. My point is that things like this never happen on RAW. Yet, they should. Its basic booking.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 2, 2009 5:46:49 GMT -5
Nowadays, Mark Henry. People keep clamoring for a push for him, I think he still sucks and isn't much of a wrestler. Never was happy to see him on my screen.
Also, Matt Hardy. I liked him during his Version 1 phase but overall I dont see much in him, lame character and sucks on the mic most of the time. He has okay matches but nothing special.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 2, 2009 3:29:52 GMT -5
Its pretty common knowledge that the PE were hired just for the sake of jobbing them out and making them look ridiculous. A lot of guys have pissed people off backstage. If that is all this was about why are they pretty much the only guys in history to get this treatment? Kronik is an example of someone pissing guys off backstage and they just got jobbed out and released after beating down the BoD, they didn't come in day 1 and get portrayed as jobbers as well as stiffed. If it makes you feel any better, Steve-O's not even a wrestler, and they had Umaga annihilate him. He was pretty much breaking kayfabe during the segment though, and not selling Umagas stuff. A bit different. Outside of ECW I never liked PE anyway. Watching those brutal chairshots and such just offends me. That didn't even look anything close to a wrestling match.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 2, 2009 3:22:41 GMT -5
So they hired PE just to humiliate them because they turned down a contract from WWF to go to WCW. Thats classy . I never believed that for a second If they wanted to humiliate them they never would've paid them they would have stuck PE shirts on two jobbers and annihalated them What I heard was the TPE came in acting like they were big stars and just generally pissing eveyone backstage off(Hence the Russo storyline) and that eventually sombody just went and told the APA to demolish them Its pretty common knowledge that the PE were hired just for the sake of jobbing them out and making them look ridiculous. A lot of guys have pissed people off backstage. If that is all this was about why are they pretty much the only guys in history to get this treatment? Kronik is an example of someone pissing guys off backstage and they just got jobbed out and released after beating down the BoD, they didn't come in day 1 and get portrayed as jobbers as well as stiffed.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 2, 2009 0:34:22 GMT -5
I would have bought it back then. Of course I was a kid, but then again that is who WWE was marketing towards at the time.
If an over the hill Sgt. Slaughter could main event Wrestlemania, why not Martel?
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 1, 2009 22:58:42 GMT -5
Something tells me he might start using that in TNA for when he wrestles. I think it would work too, borrow some footage from NJPW of him using the Axe Bomber, and have Tenay hype that while the American audience is used to him using the leg drop, he's also been using the devastating move in Japan for years. Also, side note, didn't one of the GCN WWE games have the Axe Bomber as one of his finishers? WWE Day Of Reckoning 1....Hulk Hogan wasn't in the game but his moveset was. He is in DoR 2 though. Also he had it as a regular move in the n64 WCW games. It wasn't a finisher exactly but it was really powerful and could easily KO people.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 1, 2009 20:40:40 GMT -5
That right there is how you build stars.
Imagine how much it would do for say, Swagger, if he were to have a match like that with Cena where he goes toe to toe with him and falls just short?
The main eventer doesn't have to lose, just make the other guy look good while winning which is what Christian did right there.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 1, 2009 19:15:01 GMT -5
I dont understand why he gets a push over someone like say, Charlie Haas. If I absolutely have to watch a generic charisma deficient guy wrestle, I would rather watch someone who is at least a very good wrestler. Ted is merely average. now now,lets be fair,Charlie Haas has way more charisma than Ted Jr,and i have evidences I would say that too actually. Thing is, I dont feel like getting into another pointless debate with someone who apparently never watched Haas while he was doing the tag with Rico or things like that so I would rather just compare the two guys as they usually are, which is generic and basic character and promo wise. Kinda like I gave up arguing about Shelton Benjamins supposed lack of charisma and mic skills with people who still think its 2004 and apparently never watch ECW.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 1, 2009 19:08:49 GMT -5
I dont see whats so bad about it. Its better than most diva themes that just sound like generic club music.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 1, 2009 19:01:56 GMT -5
WM 25 really stood out to me as "just another PPV."
They threw all their eggs into one basket with the HHH/Orton storyline and the payoff was atrocious. They then proceeded to battle each other for the next few months so it made Wrestlemania feel worthless.
Using WM to essentially START a big program? How does that make any sense at all?
Taker vs. HBK was the only match on the card that felt big. The buildup wasn't that amazing and pretty basic but the actual match delivered that big time feel.
The HHH vs. Orton match reminded me of JBL vs. Cena at WM 21. Great buildup leading to what you would think was going to be an epic encounter, but the actual match stunk and made the whole thing fall flat. Then they go on to have better matches at other PPVs and RAWs. Way to make your fanbase feel idiotic for bothering to order what is supposed to be the best show of the year.
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