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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 29, 2009 23:16:23 GMT -5
Nigel McGuiness from ROH. How good a wrestler was he in ROH? I don't get to watch ROH, so that is why I am asking? He is the real deal. There isn't much more to be said. Basically a cant miss prospect like CM Punk. Except a better wrestler than Punk, IMO. |
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 29, 2009 21:32:16 GMT -5
This was also, if memory serves, Ricos first match after he turned on Billy and Chuck during the gay wedding thing on Smackdown.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 29, 2009 21:00:33 GMT -5
Yeah, really ruined Randy's career, that did. That wasn't my point. My point was that TNA bringing in Hogan isn't any dumber of an idea than WWE bringing him in so he can beat one of their top stars. For WWE to even have the idea that TNA using Hogan is stupid is hypocrisy at it's finest. Well, thats typical WWE. WCW pushes Goldberg: WWE makes fun of him with Gillberg, signs him later and gives him the same push. WCW uses the same main eventers nonstop: WWE does the same thing but somehow that is okay. WCW uses canned heat on programs and WWF mocks them on the air for it: Years later WWE use the same thing on DVDs and pretaped shows. WCW gets criticized heavily on DVD for signing WWF talent using big Turner money, throwing their money at Monday nights to squash the WWF and basically "picking on the little guy" (considering WWF to be the "little guy" is a joke to begin with): WWF used similar tactics against other feds and territories in the 80s and continues to do things such as attempting to oust indy feds from hosting shows during Wrestlemania at the host cities. TNA signs Hogan the same year Vince attempted to get him in a Wrestlemania main event match: "What a mistake by TNA signing Hogan to a contract!" |
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 29, 2009 20:48:58 GMT -5
Just a one off match to try and get him over, yeah. Nothing ever came of it.
Which, now that I watch is odd because Flair is clearly holding onto the ropes while being pinned...yet the announcers make no mention of it and they never had another match that I can recall either.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 29, 2009 18:16:35 GMT -5
Perhaps its seen as a mistake in 2009 because of past experience like how the Orton 2006 deal went down? Hogan in '02 was pretty much model citizen for them. Put Rock over at WM, had a brief title run thanks to huge crowd support, clean jobs also to guys like Angle and Brock. The HBK and Orton bouts, hmmm, not nearly so much. If that is the case Vince probably shouldn't have attempted to bring Hogan in afterwards for both Austin and Cena WM bouts. What is to stop Hogan from pulling power plays again? Or, like I said, Vince could have forced Hogan to job if it was that big of a deal. Is there some sort of forcefield around Hogan that renders Vinces authority over his own company moot? Maybe Hulkamania Mind Tricks? |
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 29, 2009 17:26:42 GMT -5
PWinsider.com The internal WWE reaction to Hulk Hogan signing with TNA was that it was a major mistake on TNA's part and that Hogan and Eric Bischoff would be out for themselves, not the promotion. There was no major sense of shock among those backstage at the Smackdown taping when the news came out. We'll see if that turns out to be the case. Why did WWE ever employ either of them post 2001, then? Seems pretty silly to say TNA signing Hogan is a major mistake when Vince keeps trying to get Hogan back for another Mania match. As far as Hogan being out for himself, maybe Vince should have just grown some balls the past two times and told him he was going to job to HBK and Orton. Assuming he feels that way, maybe he doesn't and other WWE brass do, I dunno. Either way I think it is silly of WWE to think that if true, considering they employed both of them and promoted some of their outside ventures post employment. |
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 29, 2009 17:20:53 GMT -5
Probably a pre-emptive move before Flair does something embarrassing in an effort to ward off his inevitable financial ruin. *points to Jeff Hardy and Ultimate Warrior being on the alumni page* |
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 29, 2009 13:12:03 GMT -5
Angle wont be coming back, so it doesn't matter.
I also have to laugh at people saying they dont want one of the greatest pro wrestlers of the modern era back on WWE television.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 29, 2009 13:06:55 GMT -5
Aimlessly beat jobbers in squash matches for months on end.
Oh sorry, I thought you were asking what Sheamus WILL do on RAW.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 29, 2009 12:30:43 GMT -5
This wasn't about the match at all. What really happened is Batista brought his n64 on the road with him, and he, Taker, Punk, and Mysterio played a 30 man Royal Rumble backstage before the PPV. When they were down to the last 4 guys, Batista eliminated Mysterio. Then when he was about to eliminate CM Punk for the win, Mysterio pulled Batistas character out and gave Punk the win.
That sore loser! To hell with Rey! Thats why the crowd cheered.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 29, 2009 1:29:31 GMT -5
The Nudertaker is getting old. He needs to retire and make way for up and coming stars like Zak Rhymer and John Morrisey.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 28, 2009 23:40:23 GMT -5
I never understood why some people made or make such a big deal about the six sided ring. To me, its just nitpicking.
Its like saying you dont watch WWE because you dont like the graphics they use for the shows or where the announce table is located.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 28, 2009 22:53:11 GMT -5
posting this here since it's related. As was reported shortly after news broke that Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff signed with TNA, I've been told that the two signings were part of something much bigger going within the number two wrestling promotion. Though either a timeslot change for iMPACT! (which Spike TV has denied and I've been told is not the case) or the addition of a new TNA broadcast (I've been told Monday night from 8-10EST) are at the forefront of speculation, another aspect breaking within the wrestling industry is that other major wrestling names will follow Hogan and Bischoff to TNA. Here is a breakdown of the big names who are part of said speculation: Steve Austin - Rumors have already been linking Austin to TNA, although sources close to him do not believe he wants to actively work with a wrestling company, as doing so would hinder his Hollywood credibility. I'd bet against this one according to my sources. Bill Goldberg - TNA approached Goldberg independently of the Hogan/Bischoff deal, but there is not believed to be significant interest on Goldberg's part. Ric Flair - As Flair has a contract that links him professionally to Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff, one would assume Flair is joining TNA. At the same time, TNA has unsuccessfully tried to sign Flair in the past and it is not clear he would do something that puts him in such direct opposition with Vince McMahon. Flair would neither confirm nor deny his TNA prospects. I've heard rumblings that Flair is not ruling it out. Diamond Dallas Page - Though his name has come up in rumors, he has personally given no indication that he's joining TNA. Jimmy Hart - Despite being a close partner and collaborator with Hulk Hogan, Hart has said that he is not part of the TNA deal. Kennedy - He is expected to remain distanced from wrestling as he pursues an acting career. Rob Van Dam - Hogan and Bischoff are big proponents of getting RVD into the company, although he had not made a decision at press time. RVD? well RVD was at BFG. But he seems to been there on his own. He had a poll on his site for over a month now. I just don't get how this Hogan and Eric signing would increase the chances of him going. When RVD barely worked with Eric in WCW. Only worked with Eric in the WWE and Eric was only a character. Hogan was well wasn't in WCW when RVD was there and only worked with RVD in the WWE. It would make more sense of Heyman signed and yeah then RVD would be at an increase of going on. Just because RVD never worked with Hogan and only worked with Bischoff when he was an onscreen presence doesn't mean that Hogan or Bischoff might not see RVD as an important signing to take TNA to the net level. Also, for all you know RVD might be friends with one of them offscreen. Hogan and Bischoff are both smart businessmen. RVD is probably the biggest free agent out there right now along with Jeff Hardy who has a possibility of being signed to TNA [Goldberg, Lesnar, Rock and Austin are all pretty much out of the equation]. I am sure they are both aware that if RVD was willing to come back, keeping him out of WWE would only hurt them and be a big coup for TNA. |
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 28, 2009 22:43:44 GMT -5
It's a finisher it should be sold Puro anyone? |
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 28, 2009 22:31:30 GMT -5
McCool.
She is good in the ring, but her acting is awful. She has NO CHARISMA whatsoever.
Robotic is an understatement when it comes to her.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 28, 2009 22:10:57 GMT -5
As I said before, this is the same crap we were hearing when Russo was hired. OMGZ HE GON GET ALL DA POWAH AND KILL TNA!!!!
TNA is NOT WCW. It is a privately owned company. The idea of one booker or wrestler coming in and being able to do whatever they want cart blanche with no one to answer to is silly. It is as silly as one booker or wrestler signing with WWE and proceeding to take over the place.
I am sure Hogan has some amount of control over his character and the direction it goes. Probably at least as much as Sting or Angle do or any other big name. That isn't anything alarming though.
As far as Russo goes, if he can work with Cornette or Mantel as long as he did, I dont see why he couldn't get along with Hogan or Bischoff.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 28, 2009 3:39:18 GMT -5
They had a bigger roster back in 98 and managed to make it work having one World Title. I dont see how it couldn't work now. The brands were split because the roster was huge after WCW folded. Its now back to pre 2002 levels and ECW is essentially developmental so I dont count it.
Midcard titles should probably be kept since back then there were 2 or 3 midcard belts. IC, Euro and Hardcore. I would keep the ECW Title as well since developmental needs a champ and they dont portray the ECW champ as equa to the main brands champions anymore anyway [and ECW guys rarely appear on other brands or PPV anymore].
Do I think WWE will do this anytime soon? No. I think they should to create a more cohesive product and to allow more than 4 guys per brand ever really going for the belt, but they wont.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 28, 2009 1:48:59 GMT -5
Hogan will use TNA and TNA will use Hogan. If that is the relationship than they will both benefit from each other. The bigger signing long term is Bischoff since TNA badly needed someone like him. And while Hogan only cares about Hogan, Bischoff probably badly wants another crack at Vince. So he might be more of a true believer in TNA. Thats why I am actually more excited about the Bisch being there. Hogan is great, but even if he was 100% serious about helping TNA at his age and with his body in the condition its in he cannot contribute as much as he used to, beyond press and name recognition. Someone like Bischoff was sorely needed though. |
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 28, 2009 1:39:41 GMT -5
Gotta love the internet. Everything sucks and nothing is positive. With that kind of attitude, this place isn't as fun as it once was. Everyone crapped on Russo being signed way back when, and from that point on anytime something people didnt like happened on Impact it was attributed to Russo. Hell, people STILL call for Russo to be fired, and I see a lot of people on the boards saying "I refuse to watch TNA because Russo is the head booker." Despite the fact that TNA has only improved since Russo got there, and now its probably the best it has ever been. Just because someone made some mistakes in the past doesn't mean they cant still contribute or do a good job. As far as Hogan goes, with no creative control in his contract I cant see what bad he would do. Sure, he didnt put over HBK or Orton but its Vinces fault for letting Hogan get his way when he could have just as easily told Hogan "You are doing the job, and thats all there is to it." Plus in the end, its not like it really hurt either guys careers or drawing power. Ortons now a ME fixture with or without a victory over Hogan, HBK is the legend he always has been. Sometimes people make too big of a deal over one loss. |
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 27, 2009 21:45:46 GMT -5
Regarding his appearance on Larry King Live: "I'm now working for a young company, TNA. Trying to make them just as big as the guys I used to work for." That's all he had to say, and he didn't even do that. Instead he couldn't be assed to mention it which says to me he's not all that invested in it. Whether that's a good or bad thing is up to you. This whole story is unbelievably overblown, if Hogan truly believed in this company, he'd try to make as big of a deal as it as possible on the huge national TV exposure on the VERY SAME DAY he signed on. Instead, it's a complete afterthought to him. Frankly, this is probably another one of his schemes to get Vince to overpay for him again, by once again working TNA and it's management for the second time. Or at the very least, just another way to promote himself and his own ventures. Afterall Hogan always comes first. Perhaps, but I am willing to give the guy the benefit of the doubt. In the scheme of things, lets face it, Hogan being in TNA wouldn't ensure him a huge payday from Vince. At least not right away. If Hogan being there helps TNA become a threat and Hogan goes back with Vince it would still help TNA more than no Hogan at all, unless he pulls his old antics before going back. Still, Hogan wouldn't be in a position like he was in WCW to be burying young talent. Dixie is smart enough to not bring in Hogan is that is a possibility. |
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