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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 25, 2009 19:36:27 GMT -5
Christian is my favorite wrestler right now, and even I say yes.
Its time for him to drop the belt. His reign has been great and whoever wins it from him is going to get a rub and look good after such a long run. Shelton is also known to excel in Ladder Matches.
So imagine if Shelton and Christian steal the show in a great match, Shelton wins and then actually gets a good push as champion putting on great matches after that on PPV? It could do a world of good for him. Christian can move on to the bigger things we all know he deserves and is capable of, he makes Shelton look like a million bucks in the process and perhaps gives him a chance to really be made, assuming he doesn't Matt Hardy his title reign.
A win win, IMO.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 25, 2009 19:15:43 GMT -5
I thinks it's more of a this would of best been saved for a ppv attitude then that, IE: imagine flair vs micheals was done on velocity, would'nt quite have the same impact would it? Bad analogy. You're comparing the flagship show of the WWE to the bottom of the barrel show that's no longer on anymore. IMO, having a good match on tv shouldn't be seen as a waste of money. It should be seen as a way of building up the PPV. In that case I guess WCW should stop getting crap for doing stuff like Goldberg vs. Hogan on a free Nitro. Also, I dont think anyone is really complaining in here, just saying its a waste of a potential money making PPV match on WWEs part. Plus, any match on free TV is probably not going to get as much time as a PPV match would, and it has no buildup as opposed to a feud going into PPV. Would Austin vs. McMahon at St. Valentines Day Massacre been as intriguing or as big of a deal if they had faced each other a couple times on RAW previously?
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 25, 2009 19:08:40 GMT -5
Judging from the trailer, John Cena is an Oscar quality actor compared to Teddy...
*delivered in most monotone, slow, robotic voice ever*
"The goal is to save people, not kill them to win."
WOOOOOF.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 25, 2009 9:06:19 GMT -5
WWE is really reaching with this one.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 24, 2009 22:04:32 GMT -5
4. John Morrison defeated Eric Escobar to retain the Intercontinental Title. Morrison won with Starship Pain. Quick match. Somewhere Rob Conway is laughing.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 24, 2009 21:24:08 GMT -5
Remeber when Cena was getting booed really badly altho he was billed as the top face on Raw and then the boos just disappeared??? Can anyone explain why they started and also Why they just stopped out of the blue. Sure he gets booed now but its not as bad as it was then. Is the WWe drowning them out?? It still happens to him every now and then. Judging from PPV buy numbers though, those fans just gave up on the product. I know I am one of them, I haven't bought a PPV or went to a live show since 2007. I still pay attention to whats going on to see if it improves but thats it.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 24, 2009 18:05:01 GMT -5
Cenas promos would do a lot better without the HOLLYWOOD CLICHE! PASSIONATE! SPEECH! crap that he does too much.
Anytime he starts with that it comes off as forced and scripted. I know Cena is just a guy reading someone elses lines but it would work a lot better if he wasn't reminding me of that every chance he gets.
I liked his promo until General Cena kicked in again.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 24, 2009 15:25:49 GMT -5
Apparently you have never watched pro wrestling? Old school wrestling was all hosses doing powerslams and no clean finishes? WTF? Sometimes its best not respond. When see things like that just look over it. Wrestlers work better when their ideas are used. Writers job is to come up with storylines. Sad thing wrestling has turned into one the joke. I believe guys need to speak from the heart. Fans are sick and tired of stale scripted promos. I hope Flair and Hogan can help guys on the basics. Hogan and Bischoff can also help TNA get larger fanbase. I bet alot of fans have no idea they exist or when they have shows. Good booking means nothing if fans don't know you're out there. Usually I ignore most of the stuff people say, that was just so out of left field to me I had to make a comment. Anyway, I think Russo has been doing a good job writing for awhile now, but if Hogan really wants to sack the writers and has the power to do so, I wouldn't shed a tear either. I have been saying for awhile now that I would like TNA to adopt a more old school mentality. Less backstage scripted segments, less scripted promos. Those things have their place but I think at this stage in pro wrestling it would benefit from less of that stuff, bring it out every once in awhile to develop interest but not every single week for every single angle. Thats what I really dislike about WWE the past few years so I agree with Hogan on this. The writers dont trust the wrestlers to go out there and do what they do best. If that can work in the indies and all the old school promotions I dont see why it cant still work on a national stage. I dont watch wrestling for the same reason I watch dramas or sitcoms so the more it distances itself from those types of the shows, the better IMO. Hogans comments about TNAs promotion is spot on as well. Most wrestling fans still dont know TNA exists or only have a vague idea that its around. If there is one thing Hogan knows about, its how to promote. TNA needs to promote itself, it also needs to provide a clear alternative to WWE. That is how it is going to garner viewers and draw fans who dont watch wrestling anymore back into the fold.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 24, 2009 14:45:03 GMT -5
Well Hulk wants to do a more UWF, NWA, World Class, and old school WWF show. ...so it will be goofy sports-entertainment style wrestling done by hosses with cocaine addictions with 6 powerslams a minute and clean finishes every 49th match? Awesome! Apparently you have never watched pro wrestling? Old school wrestling was all hosses doing powerslams and no clean finishes? WTF?
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 24, 2009 14:32:17 GMT -5
Sheamus is fine with me, whoever got the shot would just be fed to Cena anyway.
The best Sheamus can hope for from this is that he comes out of this still looking credible. Cena does NOT have a good track record in that area though, typically anyone that feuds with him and hasn't already been established as a main eventer comes out of it looking weaker than they did going in and like they are nowhere near Cenas level.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 24, 2009 14:27:43 GMT -5
No complaints from me, but Ventura was my favorite commentator as a kid and also my favorite commentator ever, so I may be biased.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 24, 2009 13:30:46 GMT -5
Im sure it had something to do with it. The last time a guy got a push to main event this suddenly was Lesnar.
I think its far too early for it. Sheamus has potential but I am not sure if he can carry a feud with Cena this soon and is good enough in ring wise to have a PPV caliber main event. I guess we will see though, and hopefully he makes the most of this chance.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 24, 2009 12:09:20 GMT -5
Next time someone says WWE doesn't like to push young guys right away because WWE is afraid they will end up like Lesnar or Lashley, I will point to Sheamus.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 23, 2009 15:21:47 GMT -5
He IS ready.
He just needs a breakout feud. Putting on great matches and winning cleanly is only going to get you so far in WWE land without an engaging feud or storyline.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 23, 2009 14:42:43 GMT -5
Jericho has bad luck with partners.
In a way though, it actually adds to the angle. Jericho can drop Big Show and find ANOTHER partner, claiming once again he needs someone on his level who wont drop the ball by getting injured.
Que someone like CM Punk or Ziggler who needs something to do to give them their credibility back.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 23, 2009 14:22:42 GMT -5
SD is so heel heavy it leaves little room for Ziggler to have any upward mobility.
Besides Morrison, Mysterio and Taker there are no credible faces and apparently Rey is injured again. That leaves Ziggler nothing, he can either beat on JTTS like Finlay and R Truth or job since the two credible faces cant lose very much.
They need to start elevating some faces on SD. Its strange since in the summer SD was firing on all cylinders but ever since Taker returned everything has seemed to lack any direction on the show.
1. Punk gets built up for big things, gets jobbed out to Taker and thrown in random storylines that scream "Punk needs time but he has nothing to do so uhhh...heres something." Quite underwhelming and different from the beginning of the summer where he was moving forward with intriguing character development and a great feud.
2. Rey gets Wellnessed in the middle of a great feud with Ziggler with the logical conclusion of dropping the belt to him...so Morrison inexplicably gets the belt. Since Morrison has been being built up since May he cant job right away. This made little sense and seemed like a last minute panic decision with the writers booking themselves into a corner, a symptom of all WWE but it was very evident here.
3. Morrison seemed being built for big things, either going toe to toe with main eventers or pinning them outright. The IC belt seems almost beneath him even with the way it was built back up by Jericho. Morrisons SD position should be analogous to Kofi Kingstons current position on RAW. He should be feuding with Batista or something, not wrestling guys on the level of Ziggler or Drew McIntyre. Now he just seems like "that guy with the IC title" and isn't going anywhere. He needed a breakout feud a lot more than a belt.
So really, most guys on SD that arent Batista or Taker are in similar "what do we do with them now" positions.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 22, 2009 19:54:51 GMT -5
Of course, because we all know Bret personally, and can speak to the man's character. My point is, if you know someone in the room has a knife in their hand, you don't expose your back to them. I am not speaking from personal knowledge obviously. I am basing my opinion on everything that has been said about the man by his fellow wrestlers in interviews and books, his interactions with fans, his history in the business and finally what comes out of his own mouth. Bret is like Rock in where almost nobody has anything bad or negative to say about him. Interestingly enough the only wrestlers both have anything bad to say about are HBK and HHH. Hmmm... HBK refused a bunch of jobs, yet Bret never did as far as I know beyond that one time. Who should I deem more trustworthy in such a situation? You dont know Bret either personally yet you are saying he should have been screwed because theres no way of telling what he would do. I guess nobody should ever be trusted. Also, keep in mind Vince put himself into this position by offering Bret a contract he couldnt make good on. Bret could have easily screwed Vince and WWF by suing them, instead he offered to completely drop the contract and sign with another company just out of loyalty and respect for Vince. He does all that and then gets repaid by being betrayed and embarrassed on live PPV in his home country. Real good class and business sense there on the part of Vince and co. huh? Maybe Vince should have screwed HBK the myriad of times he refused to job. It worked out anyway for both parties and they both have forgiven each other so it worked out. Now the only thing Bret detractors have to say is MAYBE HE WOULD HAVE REFUSED TO JOB!!! Bret could have easily went the Jeff Jarrett route and held Vince up for money with the threat of not even showing up at the PPV. He could have done a lot of underhanded things but he didn't. Yet somehow I am supposed to believe he was planning some scheme with Bischoff despite his record of loyalty and trustworthiness in and out of the ring, and that Vince was somehow in the right. If anything the fact that Bret just let it go, barely made any references on air when he could have shot the hell out of Vince and then later got over it himself shows that he never had any sinister intentions.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 22, 2009 19:41:11 GMT -5
I am pretty sure you could take Bret Harts word on anything. He gave up big money initially from WCW to stay with WWF for less out of loyalty. He didn't leave until Vince said he couldn't afford his contract.
As for suing Vince, he probably could have if he wanted but he was offered such a huge contract from WCW he didn't really need to. Plus I cant see Bret doing that anyway, thats just the sort of guy he is.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 22, 2009 18:52:12 GMT -5
Edge is sorta like Austin, where he used to be very good in the ring but injuries slowed him down to where he had to adjust his ringwork due to his limitations.
He makes the most of what he can do in the ring these days, and his character and promo work usually make up for what he is lacking in that area. Plus he is like Austin to where he can put together a good enough match even though his style cant be based around hard bumps or crazy spots anymore.
I think he is one of the better guys WWE has had, and definitely not pushed down anyones throat. He was pushed from the outset but he worked hard to get enough reactions and a good enough character to break into the main event. Its not like Orton where he was immediately thrust into world title contention after a short push when he wasn't ready or good enough to handle it.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 22, 2009 14:48:27 GMT -5
Whats the monthly upkeep of a place like that though? Upkeep is 1.5 million a year, so 125,000 a month on average.
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