salz4life
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Post by salz4life on Feb 2, 2010 8:47:17 GMT -5
I hate to sound like a dick here, but talking about Cena not being a traditional "wrestler" and ragging on his shorts? Did this post dig it's way from the depths of 2006? +1 The Cena hate on here has become comical. I'm not a huge Cena fan, but I don't mind him.
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Post by notonyourradar on Feb 2, 2010 8:49:18 GMT -5
Moreover, who knows how much Bret can actually go in the ring at this point. I agree with this. Bret's my childhood hero, but I fear he may have lost it. Those punches looked pretty weak tonight. Lost it? The guy had a freakin' stroke! Of course he's not going to have much about it.
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Post by Dr. Bunsen Honeydew on Feb 2, 2010 8:50:37 GMT -5
Cena is the big powerhouse who does shoulder blocks and scoop slams. Just like Jim "the Anvil Niedhart. You know, the other half of the Hart Foundation. Cena fits perfectly.
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Post by notonyourradar on Feb 2, 2010 8:53:01 GMT -5
If anyone was a kid (like me) during the Hogan 80's era, ANY TIME someone was in trouble I wanted Hogan to come out and set things right. This is why everyone in that arena was calling for Cena.
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Post by Schattenjager on Feb 2, 2010 8:53:28 GMT -5
Who would you rather have?
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Ben Wyatt
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Are You Gonna Go My Way?
I don't get it. At all. It's kind of a small horse, I mean what am I missing? Am I crazy?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Feb 2, 2010 9:15:21 GMT -5
The crowd didn't chant "HBK," "HHH," or "Dynasty." They chanted for Cena. That's why this will work. Cena is CLEARLY the best choice. Say what you will about him, but he delivers in big matches and can handle the mic work. This. Just this once, can we please not pretend we're smarter than creative. Cena is the only logical choice here.
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Dave FCIC
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I said nice one bruva!
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Post by Dave FCIC on Feb 2, 2010 9:24:37 GMT -5
aslong as Bret Hart is on my tv, I'm not to fussed
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randomranter
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Post by randomranter on Feb 2, 2010 9:25:09 GMT -5
The crowd didn't chant "HBK," "HHH," or "Dynasty." They chanted for Cena. That's why this will work. Cena is CLEARLY the best choice. Say what you will about him, but he delivers in big matches and can handle the mic work. This. Just this once, can we please not pretend we're smarter than creative. Cena is the only logical choice here. But they cheered for Cena because of the feud they're teasing with Batista, not because of his connection to Bret. If someone else were in Batista's place, the crowd very well could have started chanting for someone else. It's classic wrestling. When wrestler A and wrestler B are feuding, if Wrestler A starts beating down someone else, the fans will start chanting for wrestler B. Not that they're feuding right now, but if Legacy were to come down and beat down Hart, maybe the fans would have chanted for DX. If it were Orton, maybe the fans would have chanted for Kofi. Or maybe not. But most of the time, the fans will chant for the heel's current rival in the current feud. Last night was no different. Let's say HHH and HBK split up, and it was HHH holding Bret and beating him down. I'd bet my left nut that the chants would have been for HBK instead of Cena.
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Post by HMARK Center on Feb 2, 2010 9:41:35 GMT -5
After Raw tonight, it looks like they're doing Cena w/ Bret vs Batista w/ Vince at Wrestlemania. TERRIBLE idea. I don't mind Batista in this storyline, since he kinda looks right with Vince, but Bret Hart, a real WRESTLER accompanying a guy who wrestles in baggy shorts and tennis shoes, just isn't right. Cena vs Batista II is fine by me, but please, if you're doing this match, exclude both of them. This is probably the biggest storyline on Raw atm, for once WWE, keep your golden boy OUT. Thanks! the baggy shorts and T-shirt are actually something Hart wears when he's not wrestling as I recall so it works. To be fair, though, Bret would wear skater sneakers, not basketball ones...which must explain why Batista was so mad at him. I just saw the clips of this, and it's fairly obvious Bret won't be working any matches. Folks, let's face it: strokes are serious business, serious enough that Bret can't even take/sell a worked punch. They had to hide his face while Batista hit him. It breaks my heart to see Bret limited like that (no pun intended), and I sure as hell don't want to see him in a position where his very life is put at risk for a silly wrestling angle.
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Post by Dr. Bunsen Honeydew on Feb 2, 2010 10:09:47 GMT -5
But they cheered for Cena because of the feud they're teasing with Batista, not because of his connection to Bret. You're argument falls falt becuase they haven't teased Cena/Batista at all. These two havne't crossed paths in awhile and while Cena did eliminate Batista at the RR, nothing has happened to incicate an issue between the two. In fact even though Batista was standing there, the commentators never mentioned or had any conrcern as to why Batista never left right away. The fans cheered for Cena becuase Cena is the one that goaded Vince last week into letting Bret come on this and have a confrontation this week. Cena is the one Bret referenced in his promo. It isn't hard for fans at the arena to put two and two together and cheer for the guy WWE has used the last two weeks to further this fued.
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Post by Back to being Cenanuff on Feb 2, 2010 10:11:59 GMT -5
Whatever keeps Cena away from the title pictures is a match I can agree with. That is, unless they put the belt on him at Elimination Chamber. Then we won't have a WWE Title match.
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Post by YellowJacketY2J on Feb 2, 2010 10:16:09 GMT -5
Cena is the perfect choice. Just because he wasn't involved with the Montreal Screwjob doesn't mean he can't help out. Barely anybody in the WWE was involved with the Screwjob. And those that were most likely won't feel comfortable doing the storyline.
Cena is today's golden goose just like Bret was in the mid 90's. Though their characters may be different, they have one thing in common: they are respectful babyfaces. They are all about workmanship and honor. Something that Vince spit in the face of in Montreal.
Vince and Cena have had contact due to this Bret return (they've also had contact in the past, as well). Cena respects Bret and disrespects what Vince did to him. He has the fear that, since he's in the same position, it may happen to him in the future as well. When he sees that Vince is once again humiliating Bret via the assistance of Batista, he won't stand for it anymore.
As for the match at Mania, it can go many ways. It could easily be Cena/Batista II, or it could also easily be a tag team match. If they go with the former, they can still solve the "Bret wanting to kick Vince's ass" dilemna. Will Bret get to face Vince one-on-one? No. But he may get the chance to get his hands on him.
It could go down like this. Bret challenges Vince to a match at Wrestlemania. Vince hints at accepting, but chickens out and declines the match. He says that Bret will never step foot in a wrestling ring again. As Bret starts to snap, Batista makes the save once again and the two start pummeling Bret. Out comes Cena to even the odds, and Batista and Vince run away.
Vince is peeved that Cena is sticking his nose where it doesn't belong. He states that Cena will pay for his actions, and that he'll face Batista at Wrestlemania. And he'll be at his side. Bret comes out and announces that he'll be in Cena's corner.
Over the next few weeks, Cena and Bret start getting into Vince's head. They repeatedly challenges his manhood, calling him nothing but a coward. This eventually gets to Vince, in which he is bargained into making a stipulation. If Cena beats Batista, Bret gets his match with Vince (which, if it happens, can be a quick beatdown on Vince). If Batista wins, Bret leaves Vince alone/Bret admits Vince was right/Bret joins an exclusive club.
With this, you have the Bret/Vince storyline culminate without Bret having to take bumps.
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Ben Wyatt
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Are You Gonna Go My Way?
I don't get it. At all. It's kind of a small horse, I mean what am I missing? Am I crazy?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Feb 2, 2010 10:21:48 GMT -5
Cena is the perfect choice. Just because he wasn't involved with the Montreal Screwjob doesn't mean he can't help out. Barely anybody in the WWE was involved with the Screwjob. And those that were most likely won't feel comfortable doing the storyline. Cena is today's golden goose just like Bret was in the mid 90's. Though their characters may be different, they have one thing in common: they are respectful babyfaces. They are all about workmanship and honor. Something that Vince spit in the face of in Montreal. Vince and Cena have had contact due to this Bret return (they've also had contact in the past, as well). Cena respects Bret and disrespects what Vince did to him. He has the fear that, since he's in the same position, it may happen to him in the future as well. When he sees that Vince is once again humiliating Bret via the assistance of Batista, he won't stand for it anymore. As for the match at Mania, it can go many ways. It could easily be Cena/Batista II, or it could also easily be a tag team match. If they go with the former, they can still solve the "Bret wanting to kick Vince's ass" dilemna. Will Bret get to face Vince one-on-one? No. But he may get the chance to get his hands on him. It could go down like this. Bret challenges Vince to a match at Wrestlemania. Vince hints at accepting, but chickens out and declines the match. He says that Bret will never step foot in a wrestling ring again. As Bret starts to snap, Batista makes the save once again and the two start pummeling Bret. Out comes Cena to even the odds, and Batista and Vince run away. Vince is peeved that Cena is sticking his nose where it doesn't belong. He states that Cena will pay for his actions, and that he'll face Batista at Wrestlemania. And he'll be at his side. Bret comes out and announces that he'll be in Cena's corner. Over the next few weeks, Cena and Bret start getting into Vince's head. They repeatedly challenges his manhood, calling him nothing but a coward. This eventually gets to Vince, in which he is bargained into making a stipulation. If Cena beats Batista, Bret gets his match with Vince (which, if it happens, can be a quick beatdown on Vince). If Batista wins, Bret leaves Vince alone/Bret admits Vince was right/Bret joins an exclusive club. With this, you have the Bret/Vince storyline culminate without Bret having to take bumps. Exactly how this should play out.
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Post by wrestlecrapcrap on Feb 2, 2010 10:25:39 GMT -5
Combining guys from a past era with guys from this era so the fans can feel emotionally involved in the storyline is great booking. Cena makes perfect sense.
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Post by Baixo Astral on Feb 2, 2010 10:34:27 GMT -5
Who would you rather have? Who? I'm serious... of course Danielson is a great worker, but he hasn't even appeared on WWE TV outside of jobber status as yet, and would people seriously advocate this?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2010 12:26:23 GMT -5
Maybe it's an uppopular decision but I just feel like it's a waste of Cena vs. Batista
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Post by Avalanche Alvarez on Feb 2, 2010 12:32:07 GMT -5
Who would you rather have? I have to agree with this. Kofi? MVP? Wait, Hornswaggle v.s Batista at Wrestlemania. See, they'd do that simply to piss off serious fans, so I'm still accepting of Cena. It could always be worse.
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Post by Paco S. Loco on Feb 2, 2010 13:15:12 GMT -5
Bret's representative should obviously be El Dandy
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Post by machomuta on Feb 2, 2010 13:22:40 GMT -5
This. Just this once, can we please not pretend we're smarter than creative. Cena is the only logical choice here. . Or maybe not. But most of the time, the fans will chant for the heel's current rival in the current feud. Last night was no different. What are you talking about? Cena is not Batista´s current rival.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Feb 2, 2010 13:28:11 GMT -5
Shawn Michaels (w/Bret) vs Triple H (w/Vince) A million times no on this. Teaming up or having a younger guy or having him represent you is one thing. Have a contemporary defending you, or being the lead on a tag in another. It makes Bret look really feeble, because instead of comparing him to McMahon or a younger guy like Cena, he's in comparison to a guy who is pretty much the same age as him. It would be different if Bret could still go, but have Michaels go in, take all the bumps, for Bret to come in for 2 or 3 minutes is ridiculous. I doubt it's something Bret would want to do.
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