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Post by Stu on Sept 26, 2015 13:57:12 GMT -5
(Some minor language warning)
Apologies if this was already discussed in another thread. Anyone know if this was from his podcast or elsewhere?
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Post by Diamond Cutter Out of Nowhere! on Sept 26, 2015 13:59:41 GMT -5
I'm actually listening to this one right now. It's episode 180 of Talk is Jericho. Got to say I agree with him. If you're a fan who gets in the ring, you deserve to get punched.
They don't know who you are, what your intentions are, nothing. You could be armed, they don't know. They have a right to defend themselves if someone is stupid enough to get in the ring when they shouldn't.
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Post by Stu on Sept 26, 2015 14:07:22 GMT -5
He mentioned some guys do and others don't attack the fans. I tried to think of recent incidents, and it looked like mostly oldschool guys would attack and newer guys just watch. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Sept 26, 2015 14:07:26 GMT -5
How exactly is jumping a barrier and going into the WWE ring during a show cowardly? Seems like a terrible and inaccurate way to describe these people. Words have meanings. I don't see how that word applies. Most of those words Jericho used seem to fit, but not 'cowardly.'
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Post by MrElijah on Sept 26, 2015 14:08:00 GMT -5
Sid said it best: When you put your ass up there, you become apart of the game.
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Post by "Mr Wonderdick" Dick Dastardly on Sept 26, 2015 14:12:30 GMT -5
It'd be funny if someone tried that with Jericho, then Jericho tries to attack the person and the person is some MMA fighter and takes Jericho down.
If Bill Watts was in charge, Jericho would be out of there with his tail between his legs.
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Post by Stu on Sept 26, 2015 14:18:31 GMT -5
How exactly is jumping a barrier and going into the WWE ring during a show cowardly? Seems like a terrible and inaccurate way to describe these people. Words have meanings. I don't see how that word applies. Most of those words Jericho used seem to fit, but not 'cowardly.' I felt the same way when Larry Zbyszko referred to Hall and Nash as cowards during that backstage attack at Universal Studios. Unless they were supposed to be cowards for using weapons instead of fighting with their fists.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Sept 26, 2015 14:21:19 GMT -5
How exactly is jumping a barrier and going into the WWE ring during a show cowardly? Seems like a terrible and inaccurate way to describe these people. Words have meanings. I don't see how that word applies. Most of those words Jericho used seem to fit, but not 'cowardly.' I felt the same way when Larry Zbyszko referred to Hall and Nash as cowards during that backstage attack at Universal Studios. Unless they were supposed to be cowards for using weapons instead of fighting with their fists. I don't mean to make this a big thing, but I've noticed for years that people just randomly throw out the insult 'cowardly' all the time and just apply it to whomever they're outraged at, and many times the word just doesn't fit. It really stuck out as the wrong word for Jericho to use in these cases. Imagine if police where questioning a barrier-jumper at a wrestling show: Police: Why did you do it? Wanted attention? Wanted to cause havok? WHY!? Jumper: I was scared! I did it because I was scared!
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Post by Stu on Sept 26, 2015 14:24:44 GMT -5
I felt the same way when Larry Zbyszko referred to Hall and Nash as cowards during that backstage attack at Universal Studios. Unless they were supposed to be cowards for using weapons instead of fighting with their fists. I don't mean to make this a big thing, but I've noticed for years that people just randomly throw out the insult 'cowardly' all the time and just apply it to whomever they're outraged at, and many times the word just doesn't fit. It really stuck out as the wrong word for Jericho to use in these cases. Imagine if police where questioning a barrier-jumper at a wrestling show: Police: Why did you do it? Wanted attention? Wanted to cause havok? WHY!? Jumper: I was scared! I did it because I was scared! Unfortunately, you turned it into a thing :-P The guy pushed Eddie off the ladder because he was scared. The guy streaked at the beginning of the Wrestlemania 23 main event because he was scared. But yeah, I hear ya. The word is tossed around a lot. Now, let's get back to the discussion at hand.
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Post by Chiral on Sept 26, 2015 14:26:51 GMT -5
How exactly is jumping a barrier and going into the WWE ring during a show cowardly? Seems like a terrible and inaccurate way to describe these people. Words have meanings. I don't see how that word applies. Most of those words Jericho used seem to fit, but not 'cowardly.' Jericho comes across as.....not so bright...frequently to me.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Sept 26, 2015 14:27:30 GMT -5
I didn't want to get too much into politics, but I started noticing people throwing out the word 'coward' or 'cowardly' when Bill Maher pointed out people were misusing the word after 9/11. This commentary led Bill Maher to be fired from ABC.
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Post by CeilingFan on Sept 26, 2015 14:29:11 GMT -5
Sid said it best: When you put your ass up there, you become apart of the game.
Jose Lothario would disagree.
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Post by Stu on Sept 26, 2015 14:38:16 GMT -5
I didn't want to get too much into politics, but I started noticing people throwing out the word 'coward' or 'cowardly' when Bill Maher pointed out people were misusing the word after 9/11. This commentary led Bill Maher to be fired from ABC. You were fine until this post and didn't have to even go here. Let's just drop the subject then.
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Sept 26, 2015 14:39:40 GMT -5
Sid said it best: When you put your ass up there, you become apart of the game. So the wrestlers should clobber barrier-jumpers with cameras? Not a bad strategy, actually... Sid said it best: When you put your ass up there, you become apart of the game.
Jose Lothario would disagree.
f*** Jose Lothario! That piece of excrement got exactly what he deserved!
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Sept 26, 2015 14:47:06 GMT -5
Jericho has no tolerance for Thrillseekers.
Ftr, I have no sympathy for these people. It's a disrespectful thing to do. Don't do it!
I was fine up to and including that post. I don't care to further broach the topic any more than I already did.
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 26, 2015 14:54:24 GMT -5
It'd be funny if someone tried that with Jericho, then Jericho tries to attack the person and the person is some MMA fighter and takes Jericho down. If Bill Watts was in charge, Jericho would be out of there with his tail between his legs. Jericho has been doing this a very long time, and wrestlers aren't going to play nice. Regal talks about how when drunks used to try and get into the ring, Regal would tell them to, and the second they put their head between the ropes, Regal would kick them in the head to knock them unconscious. If an MMA fighter tried this, they wouldn't just get criminal trespassing, they'd probably get a prison sentence for assault, too. I don't think Bill Watts would have too much sympathy for the fan, either, considering Blackjack Mulligan got stabbed by a fan when security blew it and assumed it was part of the show for some reason. I don't think he'd give a shit.
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Post by joeiscool on Sept 26, 2015 14:55:37 GMT -5
yezus help us...
I get it people should not run to the ring, but really you're going to knock the guys head off?(I know not literally)
Jericho sounds like an overzealous nut that just cant wait to hurt an audience member. WWE has security that will safely handle the situation no need for you to get violent.
Not to mention a lot of people who rush the ring are really small kids, adults with special needs, and drunk people. You really wanna beat up those people?
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Post by Hit Girl on Sept 26, 2015 14:56:28 GMT -5
Any fan who jumps the barricade is fair game to get their ass kicked.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Sept 26, 2015 14:56:33 GMT -5
yezus help us... I get it people should not run to the ring, but really you're going to knock the guys head off?(I know not literally) Jericho sounds like an overzealous nut that just cant wait to hurt an audience member. WWE has security that will safely handle the situation no need for you to get violent. Not to mention a lot of people who rush the ring are really small kids, adults with special needs, and drunk people. You really wanna beat up those people? To be fair to Jericho, I'm sure he'd only attack the adult men who do it. Jericho talks about it like if it happens he gets a free pass or license to beat the shit of the person.
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Post by Diamond Cutter Out of Nowhere! on Sept 26, 2015 15:01:02 GMT -5
He mentioned some guys do and others don't attack the fans. I tried to think of recent incidents, and it looked like mostly oldschool guys would attack and newer guys just watch. Correct me if I'm wrong. I would agree. All the incidents of fans getting beat up for getting in the ring that I can remember involve the nWo in some way or another. I was an avid WCW watcher, though, so I'm sure I wouldn't remember WWE instances as much.
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