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Post by fortknox on Mar 6, 2022 18:21:33 GMT -5
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Mar 6, 2022 18:24:13 GMT -5
Having listened to the audio, Dave was speculating more than reporting when he said this. He was saying that this is the kind of stuff they look to go after. They'll exploit any small mistake. Will they go through with it/is there anything in writing they could find? I doubt it. They have an intermediary with Matt Hardy who could have all the off-the-record conversations. It's still not a great idea for Jeff to say it though which is why he backed off of it.
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Post by Wardlow on Wardlow 54 on Mar 6, 2022 18:24:14 GMT -5
I mean... Jeff Hardy screwing himself out of a job. Are we THAT surprised?
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Post by Andee9001 on Mar 6, 2022 18:24:20 GMT -5
The wording in the article makes it sound like he only thinks the WWE will lool into legal action not that they are.
Just wait and see if anything comes of it.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 6, 2022 18:27:14 GMT -5
I don't really see what legal action they could take if he waits for his non compete to expire
I know he's alluded to going to AEW, but I mean Matt's there, of course he would.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Mar 6, 2022 18:28:05 GMT -5
It's also ridiculous that you can't negotiate during your non-compete. It's one thing to keep you from performing. It's another to prevent you from getting your life in order for when you're able to work again.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Mar 6, 2022 18:28:05 GMT -5
Please do, I always love to see them when they go up against people who care about and know their shit.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Mar 6, 2022 18:32:22 GMT -5
Reminds me of what's been happening for years in the NFL, where top tier talent are announcing brand new deals like 10 minutes into their free agency.
Yeah, you seriously negotiated terms of a multi year contract worth millions of dollars, ran it by the lawyers, and signed in the amount of time it takes me to make and eat a sandwich.
If teams (or in this case WWE) really wanted to pursue legal action they probably could but it just looks next level petty, and in the end the deal is probably going through.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2022 18:34:49 GMT -5
I mean, I feel like all AEW would have to say is "let's define independent contractor" and WWE would be running for the hills.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Mar 6, 2022 18:36:41 GMT -5
It's also ridiculous that you can't negotiate during your non-compete. It's one thing to keep you from performing. It's another to prevent you from getting your life in order for when you're able to work again. It's because you are still under contract during the no compete. it's why people still get paid for the 90 days.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Mar 6, 2022 18:38:52 GMT -5
It's also ridiculous that you can't negotiate during your non-compete. It's one thing to keep you from performing. It's another to prevent you from getting your life in order for when you're able to work again. It's because you are still under contract during the no compete. it's why people still get paid for the 90 days. Yeah, it’s contract tampering. Not sure WWE will do anything, it seems like a waste of life and money, but that’s WWE’s tagline.
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Post by dbrussel on Mar 6, 2022 18:39:21 GMT -5
Waste of time lol. 2 rich people fighting for some pocket money compensation
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Mar 6, 2022 18:40:26 GMT -5
It's because you are still under contract during the no compete. it's why people still get paid for the 90 days. Yeah, it’s contract tampering. Not sure WWE will do anything, it seems like a waste of life and money, but that’s WWE’s tagline. I know what it is. I'm saying it should be illegal.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Mar 6, 2022 18:41:48 GMT -5
Yeah, it’s contract tampering. Not sure WWE will do anything, it seems like a waste of life and money, but that’s WWE’s tagline. I know what it is. I'm saying it should be illegal. Why? Hardy signed the contract and knew what was in it. If he didn’t like it, don’t sign it.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Mar 6, 2022 18:45:07 GMT -5
Yeah, it’s contract tampering. Not sure WWE will do anything, it seems like a waste of life and money, but that’s WWE’s tagline. I know what it is. I'm saying it should be illegal. You are STILL employed by the company for the 90 days, you are being paid. Also I'm pretty sure plenty of people do talk about contract stuff, just nothing on the record or official.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Mar 6, 2022 18:47:56 GMT -5
I mean, I feel like all AEW would have to say is "let's define independent contractor" and WWE would be running for the hills. A. Not sure Tony would want to bring that can of worms for himself. B. WWE aren't the only ones that misuse the Independent Contractor thing and the WWE will likely get a massive influx of cash to fight something like that.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Mar 6, 2022 18:55:17 GMT -5
I know what it is. I'm saying it should be illegal. Why? Hardy signed the contract and knew what was in it. If he didn’t like it, don’t sign it. But that logic can only take you so far. I can't sign a contract to work at 4 dollars an hour here in the states because that would be illegal. You can't sign a contract prohibiting you from suing for sexual harassment after you leave the company. There's a lot of things that you can't sign even if you would want to for whatever reason because of the larger societal impacts. Non-compete clauses are generally worse for employees and are abused across a variety of workplaces. So in general I would like to see them gone and several states have already done this. But if they do exist, then prohibiting talent from signing future contracts beyond the date of their non-compete should at least be gone.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Mar 6, 2022 18:57:00 GMT -5
Why? Hardy signed the contract and knew what was in it. If he didn’t like it, don’t sign it. But that logic can only take you so far. I can't sign a contract to work at 4 dollars an hour here in the states because that would be illegal. You can't sign a contract prohibiting you from suing for sexual harassment after you leave the company. There's a lot of things that you can't sign even if you would want to for whatever reason because of the larger societal impacts. Non-compete clauses are generally worse for employees and are abused across a variety of workplaces. So in general I would like to see them gone and several states have already done this. But if they do exist, then prohibiting talent from signing future contracts beyond the date of their non-compete should at least be gone. He’s still an employee of WWE. He is being paid.
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Post by eJm on Mar 6, 2022 19:00:00 GMT -5
He’s still an employee of WWE. He is being paid. I mean, the one thing that’s definitive in all this is that, legally, he absolutely is not an employee. Even with how employee rights have been ravaged in America, an average employee gets a thousand times more protection in stuff than any independent contractor in WWE does.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Mar 6, 2022 19:00:44 GMT -5
But that logic can only take you so far. I can't sign a contract to work at 4 dollars an hour here in the states because that would be illegal. You can't sign a contract prohibiting you from suing for sexual harassment after you leave the company. There's a lot of things that you can't sign even if you would want to for whatever reason because of the larger societal impacts. Non-compete clauses are generally worse for employees and are abused across a variety of workplaces. So in general I would like to see them gone and several states have already done this. But if they do exist, then prohibiting talent from signing future contracts beyond the date of their non-compete should at least be gone. He’s still an employee of WWE. He is being paid. I'm aware of that. I think he should be allowed to negotiate his next contract now since WWE has set an end date for his current contract. If my job told me I'm getting laid off at the end of this month, I am able to interview in the meantime for next job. I think this should apply to most people but especially independent contractors.
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