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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 22, 2020 22:42:37 GMT -5
Honestly, I can't say I'm shocked, given how this place used to be when it was connected to the other site. I want to preface this: I am *not* implying they were involved in or even aware of what this thread is about, or anything similar - they were certainly NOT - but one of the main reasons we split off a couple of years after what took place in the OP was because we wanted to clean things up and get more stringent moderation going to improve the boards. They had different ideas on how the boards should be run, more hands-off, and we parted ways. Again, this is not to imply or state they approved of such things, at all.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 22, 2020 21:10:36 GMT -5
I've been dreading the point this reaches our board because I'm not sure how to handle it without pissing a LOT of people off and potentially breaking our own rules.
That said, between this shirt, UT's penchant for wearing Blue Lives shirts in recent times and him being a hunting buddy of convicted war criminal Eddie Gallagher, I can only allow you to connect your own dots on it. With that said, I'm locking this one down for now because it's an issue we need to deal with at another time. Soon, but another time. Thank you for understanding.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 21, 2020 22:55:26 GMT -5
Already deleted after a quick and massive uproar. Greg Price is behind the account, BTW.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 21, 2020 21:35:52 GMT -5
I'm sorry, not the place for this.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 21, 2020 21:04:18 GMT -5
And that's not to say he hasn't won or avoided other cases but...they went to court for a case that they had less than zero chance of winning. That harms your credibility as a lawyer a lot. I think a lot of lawyers look at McDevitt like "he's tough, but he can be got". Just need the right defendant willing to name names and with receipts. May have already been said here, but WWE/McDevitt's m.o. on lawsuits is to stretch them out as long as possible and drain the other side of funds. That's how they "win" most of their cases.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 21, 2020 19:53:06 GMT -5
Changed the title for those not familiar, hardly anyone books him anymore. Not related to this, but I do need you to check your PMs and respond. Thanks.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 21, 2020 19:04:44 GMT -5
I mean there are alot of things HHH is...Bilingual being one of them but idk about him being an abuser because I haven't read anything or seen any news that he is and there are alot of people that have come and gone through NXT in 5yrs that I am sure could validate this if it is true. Triple H has a sordid story by itself.Dude may not be an abuser but he is not above helping them. Please keep this to what we know and have been told without insinuating anything off-track from that.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 21, 2020 18:59:02 GMT -5
I mean there are alot of things HHH is...Bilingual being one of them but idk about him being an abuser because I haven't read anything or seen any news that he is and there are alot of people that have come and gone through NXT in 5yrs that I am sure could validate this if it is true. This is not claiming he was the abuser, but that he allegedly covered up said abuse by others.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 21, 2020 18:55:51 GMT -5
I will give them props for this - unlike so much of today's bookings, angles and gimmicks, there was an endgame planned.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 21, 2020 18:52:42 GMT -5
Mods have already said they’re letting each allegation have its own thread so as not to bury awareness. I stopped reading the other Crist thread so if this was there I wouldn’t have heard of it. Correct. Every individual accusation needs and deserves its own space.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 21, 2020 18:48:25 GMT -5
Originally an anonymous accusation, Grace has claimed it as her own: (WARNING: GRAPHIC)
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 21, 2020 17:44:44 GMT -5
This one doesn't seem to have been noted here yet. I'm unfamiliar with Haggerty, but figured it was noteworthy. The original accusations regarding him grooming a 15 year old can be found in the replies to this tweet:
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 21, 2020 17:26:15 GMT -5
Whatever was being attempted with this thread, please stop.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 21, 2020 17:23:49 GMT -5
We will not turn these threads into WWE vs. AEW tripe. I've deleted numerous posts on this matter. All i am saying is don't come in AEW thread and say IF wwe did this or that. That's very stupid! This guy was looking for a reaction. I apologise to mods for going too far. Check your PMs.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 21, 2020 13:40:30 GMT -5
If you come here to start/post an accusation thread, you MUST have a valid source on it. It *has* to be someone actually coming out and saying something.
Posting accusations without this will result in an immediate ban. This is a legal issue. If there is backing and sourcing from outside our walls, we can discuss it. Just throwing out names that aren't yet part of this without some sort of documentation from the accusers is not something we can let happen here.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 21, 2020 13:40:28 GMT -5
If you come here to start/post an accusation thread, you MUST have a valid source on it. It *has* to be someone actually coming out and saying something.
Posting accusations without this will result in an immediate ban. This is a legal issue. If there is backing and sourcing from outside our walls, we can discuss it. Just throwing out names that aren't yet part of this without some sort of documentation from the accusers is not something we can let happen here.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 21, 2020 13:40:25 GMT -5
If you come here to start/post an accusation thread, you MUST have a valid source on it. It *has* to be someone actually coming out and saying something.
Posting accusations without this will result in an immediate ban. This is a legal issue. If there is backing and sourcing from outside our walls, we can discuss it. Just throwing out names that aren't yet part of this without some sort of documentation from the accusers is not something we can let happen here.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 21, 2020 12:29:45 GMT -5
Yet another luchador has passed. No cause given.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 21, 2020 12:01:53 GMT -5
Reminder: Do not post names here unless that have been accused by name. There are serious legal issues with doing so.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 21, 2020 11:49:16 GMT -5
Props for owning up about it and taking responsibility. That's all you can do at this point beyond apologise to the people who sent you the photos. Is it sexual abuse? Not in my opinion. Sounds like two consenting adults who weren't forced into doing anything they weren't comfortable with. .. unless they were blackmailed or underage. Thats a different story. Receiving nudes is a common practice these days. Especially if you're on Tinder and the like. Believe it or not, some women actually enjoy sending them too. Not all women are "taken advantage of" whenever a guy takes the lead. If she says no or insinuates that she's not okay with something and you still do it... then that's abuse in my eyes. But I know you're not looking for anybody to justify your actions. I guess I'll just leave it there man. Abuse or not, it was most definitely taking advantage of my position, and it was wrong. Again, I've contacted everyone involved and apologized; everyone has been understanding and said it was no big deal, but all appreciated me coming to them about it. This doesn't and won't clear my conscience on it, I'm not doing this to make myself feel better and absolve myself on the matter. It's not about me getting sympathy for being "brave" and admitting something. It's something I have to own and go forth with. Was it as bad as any of what's coming out of the actual wrestling world? No, but I see it as a starting point toward that sort of behavior that was curbed quickly. Others might have gone further. I'm doing this as much for being open about myself as it is a wake-up call for all of us here in the fan and FAN communities. We've always had a vague idea of being a better place for people here, but the reality is, that's evolved and formed over the years as we get more informed and acquainted with how things should be. We've been heading in the right direction, but never quite "there". Take for instance the "women of wrestling" pic threads. What should have been threads showcasing talent would often be overrun by lingerie pics and the like. And we let that go until just a couple of years ago. It took us a while to fully realize "Yeah, this is pretty skuzzy" and jettisoned them. The main thing I'm hoping comes out of this thread is that some of those reading it will see and realize that some of their own actions, no matter how minute and minor in the greater scheme of things, can contribute to this mindset and keep it continuing. It can be stopped. It has to stop. We can do better.
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