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Jun 21, 2020 11:11:45 GMT -5
Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 21, 2020 11:11:45 GMT -5
There's been one guy on Twitter who's made a big list of names about bullying/sexual harassment from other wrestlers who haven't been mentioned here yet, and not all of them have screenshots of their text conversations so far. Should there be a thread on that, or could some of those be false? I think the best recourse is to not do so. There have been multiple lists floating around now without sources, with some involved in #SpeakingOut denouncing several already. Only post about things coming from an actual source, not just hit lists.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 21, 2020 10:54:20 GMT -5
I was part of the forum years ago, and I was harassed and bullied by mods, and even had pictures of myself demanded. I left soon after. Have those in charge actually changed their abusive behavior? Those are some pretty heavy and serious, but very vague, charges. I'd like to know more information on this. You can PM me if you would like. Which mods demanded pictures, what name were you using at the time, and what time frame are we talking about?
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 20, 2020 21:06:51 GMT -5
Quite a few of those "Literal Music Video" videos are scrubbed away from the internet. A shame, because the vast majority of those videos were funny. The only one I ever really liked was the Bonnie Tyler "Total Eclipse of the Heart" one (which I believe was the first, but I may be mistaken). There's still a couple of uploads of that one on there. There was a mash-up of the songs Stand By Me and Every Breath You Take that has disappeared completely. There's a couple of more recent tries at it on there, but the first (and smoothest) version is just...gone.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 20, 2020 19:40:04 GMT -5
I'm more disgusted by some wrestling fans trying to defend the people committing these horrible acts, how much of a vile piece of crap do you have to be to defend rapists and people in the wrestling who are abusive to others? What other fanbase is so willing to just look the other way?? Film, music, comics, art, literature, politics, toy collecting, sports, animation... If you can name it, someone involved has done something abhorrent and there have been hundreds of people lining up to defend them because they like their work. Just look at the heinous things Vic Mignogna fans are doing to those that spoke up about him.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 20, 2020 19:17:30 GMT -5
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 20, 2020 19:05:18 GMT -5
I mean, it's just one bendie toy, but they actually made SuperPro merch. That blows my mind.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 20, 2020 15:51:13 GMT -5
On the Bruno part I don't know. Well I remember a tale on here where after a show a couple of them confronted a wrestler he was feuding with intent on beating the crap out of him and he stepped in and told them to back off as there would be nothing left for him if they did Sounds mostly like him de-escalating the situation as peacefully as possible. I know Bruno had fans in that crowd but as far as I know, he kept them at arm's length and did not willingly associate with them.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 20, 2020 15:45:59 GMT -5
Everyone involved has been contacted. I will be more than willing to post name-redacted conversations when I get home in a few hours. Good on you then. It's up to them to give you forgiveness but I'd keep those convos between you two private, unless they give consent. Fair enough.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 20, 2020 15:43:44 GMT -5
There's only one who has appeared on two indy shows with the accuser since the incident. The info is out there and fairly easy to find. “Fairly easy to find” how? Where’s the database that shows where this random indie wrestler happened to be on the same card as a former WWE wrestler, cuz it didn’t come up in my google search. Wrestlingdata.com and Cage Match have extensive database card results and are kept active. That said, there are occasionally omissions on both, so there could be shows not listed because no one supplied data.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 20, 2020 15:17:58 GMT -5
You came clean, now what will you do with it? Are going to apologize to your victims and try to make amends? Because this statement to me is a good mea culpa, but I'm more concerned with the victims and how what you did affected them Everyone involved has been contacted. I will be more than willing to post name-redacted conversations when I get home in a few hours.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 20, 2020 15:13:55 GMT -5
You shouldn't have made such an offer of course, even in jest, but I also question the mindset of anyone who would send nude pictures of themselves online for the sole purpose of changing the colour of their name on a forum. I'll take every lump I'm due for my part, but their reasons we're their own and I will not allow them to be shamed on it. If you're doing this in other threads, I will ban you.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 20, 2020 12:56:31 GMT -5
Sorry, unlocked this by mistake
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 19, 2020 23:47:33 GMT -5
That sounds very inappropriate under the circumstances, or any circumstances, really. I can't answer why they said that, but it was definitely not a normal question to ask a patient of any age or gender.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 19, 2020 22:42:39 GMT -5
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Jun 19, 2020 21:28:07 GMT -5
Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 19, 2020 21:28:07 GMT -5
So, it looks like new accusations against Patrick Clark are beginning to surface. Do we want a new thread for this? Post away. I removed the pinned thread yesterday.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 19, 2020 21:14:52 GMT -5
PLEASE NOTE: This thread was begun by this administrator account, but under the name Madison Carter. I'm Joe Neglia, the new admin, but the text below and throughout this thread that appears with my name next to it is not actually mine.
With everything going on, I feel it necessary to step forward and talk about something. You may find it damning, you may find it a cautionary tale; whatever you take away from this, it needs to be told. I have taken great pride in this message board and our stance on trolls, creeps and the like. We have tried our best to make this place a "safe" place for everyone, without fear of being accosted or harassed. While we do better than others, we're still not there yet, but I also realize that I have to be honest if I am to be trusted in this sort of thing.
Twelve years ago, when this incarnation of the board first started, we had a "hidden" forum for the mods and a few posters we were close with (a dozen or so, maybe 20), where we could hang out and shoot the breeze "away" from things. We could swear (this was when virtually everything was still censored), talk politics, whatever. During that time, I offered to give anyone in the group (all adults) a personalized name color if they sent me nudes. I received a couple and fulfilled the promise of the name color change (those involved are not any of the current posters with unique name colors). The hidden forum did not last very long and we axed it not terribly long after. Nothing of that nature has transpired since.
At the time, it was "just friends having fun"...but in the end, I used my position here to offer rewards for favors. It was wrong and I can not apologize enough for doing so.
I bring this forward because no matter how minor this may sound in relation to everything else that's coming out about the wrestling business right now, it was and is wrong. I understand whatever you may feel reading this, and I can only hope that my actions in the decade-plus since show I am sincere in my stance on the issues at hand.
Thank you for listening.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 19, 2020 12:36:31 GMT -5
Totally. I mean, we literally just had a comedian accused of grooming underage girls, who took an acting job to play a comedian who was grooming underage girls. All bets are off after that. Is that the chap from the 70s show thing or was there even more horror reported in the last month or so? Different one. I believe this is in reference to Chris D'Elia, not Danny Masterson.
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Jun 19, 2020 11:50:47 GMT -5
Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 19, 2020 11:50:47 GMT -5
I locked it believing them to be duplicated but I'm now realizing its two different allegations and have unlocked it. With it being two different sources, I feel both need representation.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 19, 2020 11:49:34 GMT -5
I locked this believing it to be a duplicate thread. I realize my mistake in misreading the twitter reply and have unlocked it as these are two different allegations, just with one backing up the other. Do as you will.
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Jun 19, 2020 2:00:26 GMT -5
Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 19, 2020 2:00:26 GMT -5
This sounds silly, but the marble racing/marble league stuff: Off-Topic, or should it get moved to World of Sport? I....uhm...y'know, just put that one in whichever section you think it best fits and will get more discussion.
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