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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Oct 14, 2022 20:36:29 GMT -5
White and Okada’s rivalry is something I wish we had gotten with Cena back in the day. The ace babyface who always wins runs into a guy that just completely has their number in the long term, and throws them off their game. It puts Okada in this unfamiliar, uncomfortable territory and gives him a real mountain to climb. That Dominion match was so compelling in how Jay just completely deconstructed him in a way that was almost humiliating. It gives our hero a real final boss and makes him a legitimate underdog. Jay White has become That One Boss of New Japan pro wrestling to every main eventer. 5-2 Vs. Tanahashi 2-1 Vs. Naito 4-1 Vs. Okada The only main eventer with even a 50/50 against him is Ibushi. Making matters more compelling between him and Okada is that only one of those wins was not clean.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Oct 12, 2022 4:01:37 GMT -5
I wish people wouldn't f*** with someone's business and livelihood at least they're funny 5 star reviews and not mean spirited 1 star. It's like, we'll make fun of punk, we still admit your product is good. It's dumb but ultimately harmless.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Oct 11, 2022 14:14:39 GMT -5
Dude just dont bring up the drama on twitter ever again
A lot of these issues would die if Sammy would just shut the f*** up and stop associating himself with it. The Eddie Kingston drama would have died the instant Eddie admitted he was in the wrong if he had just said "No Comment" when asked to give a statement by the dirt sheet. Even in cultures where dueling was a thing when the other person admitted fault and offered apology the issue is dead and continuing to harp on it was considered bad form. It just made him come off as a petty dick. Now with Andrade, where most people admit they had it wrong he keeps bringing it up. He's not wrong that we shouldn't assume guilt the moment we see something about him, but when you make your public image so associated with the drama you bring it on yourself.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Oct 11, 2022 13:55:22 GMT -5
Can we get Kingston Vs. Shiozaki? I think it's a worthwhile dream match. If Kingston is okay with getting his chest caved in. Go’s chops are nasty. Eddie feels like one of those wrestlers who gets offended if your strikes don't actually hurt him. I think he'd relish that kind of match to be honest.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Oct 11, 2022 13:54:02 GMT -5
Njpw world and Jay White retweeted the official wwe clips. Feels more like they've got an agreement that they'll start now but still finish up their bookings. Makes sense, if so. I know Vince isn't in charge anymore, obviously, but I do know it's generally frowned upon to not complete agreed upon dates when possible. In any case, I get why people are upset but some fans are really overreacting and jumping to conclusions. Plus Triple H has expressed more willingness to work with other companies than Vince did. Him being willing to let Andrson do the job on his way out could be seen as a gesture of good will. After all before his health scare he expressed interest in a retirement tour which would have included dream matchs against people even outside of WWE. It may not be immediate but I could honestly see WWE in the future leaning into cross promotion a few years down the line.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Oct 11, 2022 13:44:59 GMT -5
Quite a few guys from there I’d love to see on AEW TV. I think Kenoh is the one who would get over the quickest with AEW fans. I’d also like to see Eita right away. I'm assuming it's just for the Sting/Muta deal, but give me a Marufuji appearance please and thank you. Can we get Kingston Vs. Shiozaki? I think it's a worthwhile dream match.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Oct 10, 2022 21:12:32 GMT -5
The more I think about everything that led to this situation this is all I can think of:
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Oct 10, 2022 13:31:20 GMT -5
I just thought it was weird it wasn't MJF who cost him the match. Probably still playing up the angle from Wednesday where he acted like he didn't like the interference. But I did find it hilarious that they helped Gage, the babyface, win and he celebrated like he conquered the world lmao. Wrestling is so dumb sometimes On one hand wrestling politics being what they are I get it, but it does add quite a bit to the perception recently that GCW is a bullshit, bushleague ECW wannabe promotion.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Oct 10, 2022 8:07:13 GMT -5
So, what looked like a B-show outing turned into one of the best shows of the year?
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Oct 8, 2022 21:05:00 GMT -5
They might as well have given him a blank check and tell him to put as many zeroes as he wants on there for all he's done for them. Given how much they gave in his first contract (which included a clause that said he could leave after 6 months no strings attatched if he was unhappy with how he was being utilized, the ability to accept indy bookings and take dates from NJPW so long as it didn't interfere with his dates for AEW, and one of the highest base salaries in the company) that might not be far off. Sure this contract cuts out the ability for indy dates, but you know they probably threw in some pretty sweet perks to make this happen. In a nutshell, Mox is being rewarded for doing things the right way and I am totally here for it.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Oct 8, 2022 18:38:47 GMT -5
They'd be dumb not to invest in Mox. He wrestlers like nobody else out there right now, he's produced consistenly high quality work, has always been there when they've needed him, gets some of the biggest reactions anytime Wild Thing hits and he's caused absolutely no trouble for anybody backstage.
Whatever they're paying him he is well worth it.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Oct 6, 2022 13:10:33 GMT -5
For the most part I agree with you he shouldn't be punished for this incident since he was not the aggressor, but the fact that Sammy's been the common denominator in so many issues is a bad look and they're not wrong in saying he's been a very negative presence backstage and before the details that have come out today it wasn't a totally unreasonable assumption to say this was just Sammy being Sammy. Just because he was innocent in this case, doesn't exactly mean he's a saint. Maybe everyone should stop speculating about backstage stuff they have no idea about? We have no clue how others feel. Eddie admitted he was in the wrong in his situation. Why must we be “right” about personal relationships we are not part of? It is sow weird. I’ll be the first to say it: I do not know any of these wrestlers personally. I know nothing about how the actual backstage goings work in AEW. I will not speak from a place of authority on the subject. To even begin to speculate is misguided. Who will join me? I don't know any of them either, but we're going off of information reported by people who were there. Maybe the sources are biased, maybe they have an agenda, but if one guy always seems to be involed in the incidents maybe it's time to start asking questions.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Oct 6, 2022 9:16:41 GMT -5
I think they're in the wrong order but otherwise I would agree with that top 10. I enjoyed all the Cena/Orton matches but I know I'm in the minority there. I don't think the hate is that the matches were bad so much as the fact that it'd been done to death (and is actually the most frequently repeated PPV match in WWE history) and there was nothing they could have done that they haven't already.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Oct 6, 2022 9:13:26 GMT -5
It is so insane that people are saying Sammy still deserves to get punished. Are we serious? Do you same people think the Bucks/Omega deserve to be punished because Punk attacked them? It’s not as if the Bucks were silent. Clearly they were running their mouths and talking. Some of you just gotta take the L, own it, and try better the next time. For the most part I agree with you he shouldn't be punished for this incident since he was not the aggressor, but the fact that Sammy's been the common denominator in so many issues is a bad look and they're not wrong in saying he's been a very negative presence backstage and before the details that have come out today it wasn't a totally unreasonable assumption to say this was just Sammy being Sammy. Just because he was innocent in this case, doesn't exactly mean he's a saint.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Oct 6, 2022 8:57:06 GMT -5
Well, he's still doing better than his little brother. At least he's not going to be in the middle of a $100 million defamation suit.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Oct 5, 2022 23:21:31 GMT -5
I honestly don't get it with Sammy. He's basically one big disciplinary issue. And it's not like AEW has not given him numerous chances to get his shit together.
At a certain point you just have to cut your losses and let him learn the hard way. If AEW lets him go the only company out there that would even touch him at this point is MLW. WWE wouldn't take a risk on guy with constant issues relating to immaturity, he doesn't fit NWA's general theme their going for, he torched the bridge with Impact last year, New Japan might be willing to use him, but if AEW lets him go given their loyalty to their partnets I think they'd pass on him.
Let the asshole learn a tough lesson then maybe he grows up. If not then nothing of value was lost.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Oct 5, 2022 20:10:22 GMT -5
Good save from Penelope. Does a bridge, loses her balance as she gets up and instead of falling on her ass improvises a cutter. Legit impressive.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Oct 5, 2022 20:03:31 GMT -5
Saraya's theme is good if you pay absolutely zero attention to any of the lyrics. "They're cancelling me!" - man who distinctly has not been cancelled despite shitty behaviour "Where in the constitution does it say I can't help murder an 18 year old kid?" -Probably that guy.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Oct 5, 2022 20:00:47 GMT -5
I can't think of anybody I have stopped caring about quicker than Saraya. That promo last week killed any interest I've had in her.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Sept 28, 2022 20:14:47 GMT -5
My response to this segment:
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