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Post by sybaku on Mar 3, 2012 13:04:30 GMT -5
Seriously who'd he piss off, the man has lost about every match in the last couple months yet maintains his heat. He happens to be present when R-Truth decides to kill himself and gets blamed, got treated like a joke as build to a major PPV which surprisingly translated into crap buys and gets blamed (because I guess the Millions and Millions of the Rock's fans where busy that night) and CM Punk and Cena both have been taking pot shots at him (Make Average Awesome, and We Don't need any inflatable letters to make us look awesome as well as other anti-Miz Punk remarks)
So who'd he make mad backstage has he stolen CM Punk's Gold Chains and Furs, did he make a pass at Steph, did he fail to beat Mcmahon in a drag race?
Also I'm not saying that everyone has done a 180 on him here but I can remember the Miz hate being way less popular last year (coincidentally some of the IWC turned right about the time Punk buried him)
I fully expect him to get squashed at Mania ala JBL a few years back, and I'm a little disheartened I'm a Miz fan but even past that last year he was maineventing as WWE champ and this year he is prolly getting Cobrad by Santino what does that say about the title also say what you want about Miz his heat is consistent and he does great PR work is it really necessary to make him look like a complete fool and wannabe wrestler, he can obviously wrestle he's taken some big ass bumps (the threeway cage match top rope bump as was working through a concussion was impressive) and he's matches while boring are solid and that's all he needs to be he's a heel your not suppose to like his ring work.... anyway just my two cents
Also yes I'm aware he 'Can't wreslte lolz CM Punk Rulezzzzz"
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Post by Andrew is Good on Mar 3, 2012 13:07:33 GMT -5
Watching the video of Truth doing the flip over the ropes again, it looks like Miz kinda swatted Truth to the side. I think that's the issue.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2012 13:10:43 GMT -5
I think WWE just gets the false impression that he's not great at his job based on their own booking him outside of his strengths as a performer. He's doing good with what he's given but it's obviously not the right character for him, and instead of doing something to fix the problem it's just assumed he's not a good worker. That's my assumption anyways.
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Post by BigWill on Mar 3, 2012 13:11:26 GMT -5
If you are indeed aware of this fact, then what's the point of this thread?
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Post by Red Impact on Mar 3, 2012 13:16:58 GMT -5
Watching the video of Truth doing the flip over the ropes again, it looks like Miz kinda swatted Truth to the side. I think that's the issue. He was out of position, but to say he pushed him to the side is just ridiculous.
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Post by B'Cup x on Mar 3, 2012 13:18:54 GMT -5
well at least hes not ol' Drew Mcintyre x
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Post by Big L on Mar 3, 2012 13:20:39 GMT -5
Watching the video of Truth doing the flip over the ropes again, it looks like Miz kinda swatted Truth to the side. I think that's the issue. He was out of position, but to say he pushed him to the side is just ridiculous. Agreed but again I say now may be the time to turn him face
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Mar 3, 2012 13:21:51 GMT -5
Well, don't look at me. I disliked Miz before it was popular.
*pushes up hipster glasses*
/No really, I was one of the minority.
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Post by Error on Mar 3, 2012 13:30:49 GMT -5
Watching the video of Truth doing the flip over the ropes again, it looks like Miz kinda swatted Truth to the side. I think that's the issue. He was out of position, but to say he pushed him to the side is just ridiculous. Not really. He may not have been trying to push him away but it does look like he slaps him away at the end.
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Post by Red Impact on Mar 3, 2012 13:40:37 GMT -5
He was out of position, but to say he pushed him to the side is just ridiculous. Not really. He may not have been trying to push him away but it does look like he slaps him away at the end. If Miz had actually pushed or slapped him away, Truth's momentum would have changed in some way, the same way they check for the motion of a ball to change when figuring out if a football player tipped it. Yes, Truth is bigger than a football, but to actually do what's being said and push him away, he wouldn't have landed the exact place he was aiming for. He just landed as though Miz wasn't there to catch him, which he wasn't. Miz was out of position and off balance, so he didn't catch Truth like he should have. But he didn't push him away, he just has his hands up ineffectually to try to hide the fact that he was out of position.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2012 13:42:35 GMT -5
I get the sense their booking of him started out accidental and at this point they're rolling with it toward a face turn. As for the R-Truth thing, people screw up all the time and I don't get why no one can move past this one issue of Miz doing it.
Granted, people tend to kind of latch on to things like that for people they don't like it seems like. Like how people hold Sim Snuka for that Taker / Michaels thing, when really it was a lot more Michaels's fault for not pulling him far enough than anything.
Anyway, WWE is still making him look strong. He's at least putting up decent, if sometimes short, showings against the guys they're pushing hardest, he's getting plenty of TV time, and he got to the end for both the Rumble and Elimination Chamber.
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Post by Error on Mar 3, 2012 13:46:07 GMT -5
Not really. He may not have been trying to push him away but it does look like he slaps him away at the end. If Miz had actually pushed or slapped him away, Truth's momentum would have changed in some way, the same way they check for the motion of a ball to change when figuring out if a football player tipped it. Yes, Truth is bigger than a football, but to actually do what's being said and push him away, he wouldn't have landed the exact place he was aiming for. He just landed as though Miz wasn't there to catch him, which he wasn't. Miz was out of position and off balance, so he didn't catch Truth like he should have. But he didn't push him away, he just has his hands up ineffectually to try to hide the fact that he was out of position. I didn't say he did it, I said its easy to say if you actually watch the video and see him slap at Truth like he does. No need for a science lesson.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2012 13:52:22 GMT -5
I think Punk and Cena are just burying the dude behind the scenes, and on screen. However, I think they're doing it because they think its the right thing to do for business. They see the guy every day, they've both wrestled him numerous times. If they think he doesn't have what it takes, they're probably right.
Maybe its Triple H's increasing influence as well. They quality of ring work has improved a lot this year, and an old school guy like Triple H would probably rather rely on guys like Bryan, Ziggler, and Rhodes to carry things.
Miz's biggest problem is that he lacks the size to wrestle the style he wrestles, and he's not athletic enough to make up for his lack of size. He's just middle-of-the-road, he'd makes a fine mid-card heel champ but he's just not a main eventer in my eyes.
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Post by Banjo Is Broken on Mar 3, 2012 14:40:38 GMT -5
He was stripped of his main event status after it became apparent that he was a jackass.
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Post by rapidfire187 on Mar 3, 2012 14:45:58 GMT -5
I think WWE just gets the false impression that he's not great at his job based on their own booking him outside of his strengths as a performer. He's doing good with what he's given but it's obviously not the right character for him, and instead of doing something to fix the problem it's just assumed he's not a good worker. That's my assumption anyways. I think it's pretty obvious that he's not that good of a worker. I mean, I guess you could blame WWE for not just putting him in 3 minute squash matches all the time to hide his weaknesses, but honestly...there's no excuse for a guy his size to have to be booked like he's the Great Khali. Hell, I think Batista was better in the ring than Miz, and that hurts to say. So that leaves Miz's great promo work which...has deteriorated over the last year. I've noticed for several months now that he seems to botch at least one line per promo. He's also been screwing up more often in the ring, so this is a bad combination. I'm not saying that he deserves to be hated by everyone he works with based on that though. I'm just saying that I don't blame them for not pushing him any harder. I don't think anybody is tuning in to see The Miz these days.
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Post by PTBartman on Mar 3, 2012 14:47:29 GMT -5
(sigh) I was kind of hoping for a new AngryFan Sitcom here
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Post by donny on Mar 3, 2012 14:58:36 GMT -5
I think people are reading way too much into Miz's losing streak. Miz is one of those guys who can loose every single match that he's in and still maintain some of his credibility. This time last year, people were saying the same thing about CM Punk. I think he did ok.......
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Post by mizerable on Mar 3, 2012 15:01:25 GMT -5
I've never cared for him. He never should have been booked as strongly as he was to begin with, seeing as now he's looked at on here as a jobber because he's losing matches. Don't worry, he'll be back to winning matches in no time since Vince has a mega boner for him. I can't think of any other reason as to why after that title tournament where he got to the finals with an injured leg and won all his matches via no shenanigans. That is absurd. I have no problem with heels looking credible, just not Miz...he doesn't fit the part.
And the reason why he hasn't turned face yet is the same reason they won't turn Vickie Guerrero. Most fans legitimately don't like them.
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Post by BigWill on Mar 3, 2012 15:01:47 GMT -5
I really believe that this is just one of the WWE's many attempts to try and get someone over via losing streak. They've been doing it quite often recently. Daniel Bryan, Drew McIntyre, Sheamus, just to name a few.
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Post by xCompackx on Mar 3, 2012 15:07:35 GMT -5
I'd believe it if he was in trouble for being a diva about things.
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