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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2012 0:24:55 GMT -5
Yeah, I honestly don't care about any of that. I'm a wrestling fan. I have no interest in pretending to be a part of the business aspect of it. The casual fans can like who they want, but they really have no place in this discussion, so there's really no point in bringing them up at all. My initial point was not about what the casual fans like, but about his ring work. The company has always given more importance to character over ring work. Miz has thrived in that environment, yet people love to throw his supposed lack of workrate at him, when chances are when he gets to the back Vince or Ace pat him on the back and say "good job, keep it up". I get that he's not for everyone, but the people who paint him as a waste of a roster spot and consider any opposing viewpoint as invalid (thus negating the "discussing" part of the discussion) miss the point entirely. The problem is, guys like Cody Rhodes (definitely) and Dolph Ziggler (arguably) have stepped up and outshone Miz in the character/promo department. And ring work is still very, very important in WWE. They deemphasize it to hype the entertainment part of it all, but they also employ the best wrestlers on the planet. Over the last year, match quality has improved dramatically, and Miz has been left in the dust in that regard. He's running out of ways that he's better than anyone else to justify a main event spot. PR work is great, but thats not on screen.
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Post by bigbadbull on Mar 4, 2012 0:32:37 GMT -5
It sure didn't help Miz when the 'E booked him to tap to Cena at OTL last year after Miz and Reily, more or less, massacred Cena in the I Quit match. Why should I buy you as a World Champ when you'll tap to a man you beat down for over 20 mins.? It's Cena. He's done the same to Orton, Batista, HBK... Hell, he even made Punk tap on Raw in about 90 seconds once. But those wrestlers you naked didn't beat the living Hell out of Cena around the arena with another wrestler helping for at least 20 minuets!!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2012 4:40:50 GMT -5
It's Cena. He's done the same to Orton, Batista, HBK... Hell, he even made Punk tap on Raw in about 90 seconds once. But those wrestlers you naked didn't beat the living Hell out of Cena around the arena with another wrestler helping for at least 20 minuets!!!Orton pretty much did, but that wasn't as bad seeing as the situation Cena did make him give up in, thanks to the handcuffs, was essentially impossible for him to have escaped from.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2012 5:19:38 GMT -5
For me, Miz hasn't been entertaining since he lost the US title to Daniel Bryan.
When he was champion this time last year and facing guys like Cena, Edge, Orton etc I honestly couldn't get into any of his matches, and his promo's are tiresome. Atleast with Cena his over the top enthusiasm is different and can, sometimes, be entertaining. With Miz it's just boring.
But that's just me.
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Post by Xander Xplosion on Mar 4, 2012 13:13:22 GMT -5
Every chickenshit heel segment they blew the last few years, not knowing how to book a heel champ (Shameus, Orton, etc. etc.) could have been used on Miz. If ever there was a chickenshit heel in wrestling, it should be Miz. Instead he sounds like a little brother telling his older brother and their dad how he is going to kick their asses because he's the toughest person in the whole universe.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2012 13:22:59 GMT -5
Every chickens*** heel segment they blew the last few years, not knowing how to book a heel champ (Shameus, Orton, etc. etc.) could have been used on Miz. If ever there was a chickens*** heel in wrestling, it should be Miz. Instead he sounds like a little brother telling his older brother and their dad how he is going to kick their asses because he's the toughest person in the whole universe. This is why I actually loved his World Title reign. When he was the Champ he was the quintessential chickenshit heel. People complain about Lawler making Miz look bad but I completely disagree. Miz's character at that time, and to a certain degree even now is someone who should never be World Champion, but he's just so conniving and willing to do anything to keep the Title that made his reign great. The fact that he had the relentless servant in Alex Riley doing absolutely ANYTHING to keep that Title with the Miz, the fact that you couldn't even trust the play by play commentator to keep his nose out of the match added an intrigue to all his matches. I loved how his matches with Orton and Lawler would end with so much calamity and plunder in the ring because Miz is doing everything in his power to cheat his way through. That's what the Miz should be to me, just a punk kid who instead of actually working on his skills as a competitive skills, weasels his way to the top in ways that would make guys like Bret Hart, CM Punk, John Cena sick to their stomachs.
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Post by Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill on Mar 4, 2012 13:29:31 GMT -5
Nobodies gay for Miz.
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