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Post by Brickstone Kid on Mar 3, 2012 15:17:32 GMT -5
They better figure it out fast. If the Miz takes a nose dive at this point, the WWE looks worse than the Miz does. They basically cemented this guy in WWE history by having him beat Cena at Wrestlemania last year in the MAIN EVENT. If they fumble the ball with him now, it will be worse than Kennedy.
As a Miz fan, I'm hoping they have some sort of plan for him. Personally I'd like to see him turn face soon. It would freshen him up quite a bit.
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Post by Psychoblue on Mar 3, 2012 15:40:17 GMT -5
I'm hoping as a Miz fan that this is something that leads to promise.
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Post by breakdownthewalls on Mar 3, 2012 15:51:23 GMT -5
Sucks at wrestling.
Almost killed R Truth because he was afraid to catch a guy.
Boring as hell on the mic now.
Gets tongue tied now (crumbling like that cream cookie, phoner, four five four five four)
My hope is that he loses a 5 second squash to Brodus Clay or Khali at Mania, then is released the next day. He's so far in over his head at this point. They try to push him as a main eventer, but he doesn't have anywhere near the skills to keep it up. It's like a 5 year old trying to run a multi million dollar company, it's a terrifying thought that's eventually going to lead to a disaster.
It's also no coincidence that some of the pure "wrestling" guys like Punk and Cena bury him on the mic whenever possible. He might be a nice guy in person (although I doubt this, he comes across as an arrogant rear end), but he has no business inside a wrestling ring, least of all in the WWE and in a sweet spot most people would kill for.
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Post by bigbadbull on Mar 3, 2012 15:52:50 GMT -5
The Miz was exposed during his reign was WWE champion. I have never been more upset that a wrestler with such little talent should hold such a coveted title and expect us to buy him as a top heel; I'll be fair to say his match against Lawler in the TLC match was very good, but that may have been the best match Miz has been when he did have to wrestler throughout. It also didn't help that Miz lost to Cena at OTL last year and taped out like a little b**ch after The Miz and Reily destroyed Cena for over 20 mins. If this leads to Miz being pushed out of the ME scene, then good.
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Post by norsisclouds on Mar 3, 2012 15:54:17 GMT -5
Sucks at wrestling. Almost killed R Truth because he was afraid to catch a guy. Boring as hell on the mic now. Gets tongue tied now (crumbling like that cream cookie, phoner, four five four five four) My hope is that he loses a 5 second squash to Brodus Clay or Khali at Mania, then is released the next day. He's so far in over his head at this point. They try to push him as a main eventer, but he doesn't have anywhere near the skills to keep it up. It's like a 5 year old trying to run a multi million dollar company, it's a terrifying thought that's eventually going to lead to a disaster. It's also no coincidence that some of the pure "wrestling" guys like Punk and Cena bury him on the mic whenever possible. He might be a nice guy in person (although I doubt this, he comes across as an arrogant rear end), but he has no business inside a wrestling ring, least of all in the WWE and in a sweet spot most people would kill for. Pretty much. I get that he stuck it out and worked hard to be where he is today, but there are plenty of talented individuals who are better wrestlers and harder workers than he is who would kill to get the pushes he's gotten and doesn't seem to appreciate.
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Post by That Mickie Fan on Mar 3, 2012 15:56:25 GMT -5
^ How do you or anyone else know That he doesn't appreciate his push?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2012 15:56:59 GMT -5
I'll be that odd man out who still thinks that Miz is good in the ring and great on the mic. This whole R-Truth thing has apparently made a lot of people see him as the second coming of Giant Gonzales, but who the hell hasn't screwed up at some point or other?
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Post by breakdownthewalls on Mar 3, 2012 15:59:07 GMT -5
I'll be that odd man out who still thinks that Miz is good in the ring and great on the mic. This whole R-Truth thing has apparently made a lot of people see him as the second coming of Giant Gonzales, but who the hell hasn't screwed up at some point or other? It's one thing to screw up. That happens to everyone. It's another thing entirely to avoid catching a guy out of fear/stupidity/whatever. To put it in other terms, I'd be okay driving with someone who accidentally missed a stop sign. Dumb mistake but it's happened to everyone. I wouldn't be okay with someone who intentionally drives though red lights without regard for the lives of others.
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Post by norsisclouds on Mar 3, 2012 15:59:29 GMT -5
^ How do you or anyone else know That he doesn't appreciate his push? Well, look at his work rate. He's lazy. That's why it appears he doesn't appreciate it. If he put in more effort and actually looked like he was trying I'd have a higher opinion of whether he really appreciates it or not. Either he's lazy or he just sucks and can't rise to the occasion and isn't capable of working any harder than he is now.
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Post by That Mickie Fan on Mar 3, 2012 15:59:59 GMT -5
^ How do you or anyone else know That he doesn't appreciate his push? Well, look at his work rate. He's lazy. That's why it appears he doesn't appreciate it. If he put in more effort and actually looked like he was trying I'd have a higher opinion of whether he really appreciates it or not. Either he's lazy or he just sucks and can't rise to the occasion and isn't capable of working any harder than he is now. Maybe He's Lazy because WWE is f***ing him up.
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Post by Red Impact on Mar 3, 2012 16:03:37 GMT -5
I'll be that odd man out who still thinks that Miz is good in the ring and great on the mic. This whole R-Truth thing has apparently made a lot of people see him as the second coming of Giant Gonzales, but who the hell hasn't screwed up at some point or other? It's one thing to screw up. That happens to everyone. It's another thing entirely to avoid catching a guy out of fear/stupidity/whatever. To put it in other terms, I'd be okay driving with someone who accidentally missed a stop sign. Dumb mistake but it's happened to everyone. I wouldn't be okay with someone who intentionally drives though red lights without regard for the lives of others. And you know it was intentional... how, exactly? Is there an interview where he said "I saw R-Truth coming and thought I just had to get out of the way!" Because, unless there is, I think it was pretty clear that the guy just got up on the wrong leg and couldn't recover in time to catch R-Truth, who was perfectly fine afterward, btw. It was a botch. I don't even like Miz, and never have, but people's response to that has been so over the top.
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Post by breakdownthewalls on Mar 3, 2012 16:05:41 GMT -5
^ How do you or anyone else know That he doesn't appreciate his push? Well, look at his work rate. He's lazy. That's why it appears he doesn't appreciate it. If he put in more effort and actually looked like he was trying I'd have a higher opinion of whether he really appreciates it or not. Either he's lazy or he just sucks and can't rise to the occasion and isn't capable of working any harder than he is now. I agree with this, although I want to expand a bit. In the WWE, when you get pushed to the next level, you bring it big time. D-Bry's got a rocket strapped to his butt and has consistently shown the WWE he deserves it. He's putting together better and better matches every week and expanding his character to become more interesting. Sheamus is getting pushed like crazy too, and he's doing more and more in his matches to get the crowd amped up. Meanwhile Miz was the WWE champ for months and.... uh..... wrestled the same match every single time? Said "AWESOME" the same way every week? Miz was given a crazy push in the Rumble and given more than 40 minutes to showcase what he could do. Anybody else would have thrown in new moves, done interesting spots, something. Miz... wrestled the same bland boring style he always does.
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Post by Psychoblue on Mar 3, 2012 16:07:13 GMT -5
Yes, because wrestling is all about MOVES in a MATCH, am I right?
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Mar 3, 2012 16:08:04 GMT -5
It's one thing to screw up. That happens to everyone. It's another thing entirely to avoid catching a guy out of fear/stupidity/whatever. To put it in other terms, I'd be okay driving with someone who accidentally missed a stop sign. Dumb mistake but it's happened to everyone. I wouldn't be okay with someone who intentionally drives though red lights without regard for the lives of others. And you know it was intentional... how, exactly? Is there an interview where he said "I saw R-Truth coming and thought I just had to get out of the way!" Because, unless there is, I think it was pretty clear that the guy just got up on the wrong leg and couldn't recover in time to catch R-Truth, who was perfectly fine afterward, btw. It was a botch. I don't even like Miz, and never have, but people's response to that has been so over the top. It's the typical internet "I want unspeakably, disproportionately horrible things to happen to people I don't like. I want their lives ruined so I can bask in the schadenfreude!" crap.
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Post by bob on Mar 3, 2012 16:08:27 GMT -5
he has to have some heat for Truth nearly killing himself
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Post by Red Impact on Mar 3, 2012 16:11:54 GMT -5
Miz was given a crazy push in the Rumble and given more than 40 minutes to showcase what he could do. Anybody else would have thrown in new moves, done interesting spots, something. Miz... wrestled the same bland boring style he always does. not... really? Most guys in the WWE have incredibly formulaic matches most of the nights, including most of their top guys. Orton and Cena are capable of doing something different once in a blue moon, but the vast majority of the time, their matches look the same. They bust out the same moves night after night after night, to the point where Cena doing a drop kick got a huge response here. The giants are even worse. Even great technical wrestlers have the tendency to fall into the 5-moves-of-doom mindset. Miz isn't really any different from a lot of guys who came before him, and that seems like it's far more a WWE problem than anything else.
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Post by King Ghidorah on Mar 3, 2012 16:12:14 GMT -5
Miz will be back on top soon enough, although hopefully it won't stop these threads from coming around, I've never seen such hate for a wrestler. Even with IWC hated wrestlers like rey mysterio, something about the Miz just gets to people. It's funny to see people say, he was afraid to catch truth, or did not appreciate his push, like people know what he's thinking, get out of here.
Go Miz.
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Post by breakdownthewalls on Mar 3, 2012 16:13:26 GMT -5
Yes, because wrestling is all about MOVES in a MATCH, am I right? *sigh* Nope, but if you're a good wrestler you could turn 5 moves into a variety of different matches. Here's EVERY SINGLE MIZ MATCH: Punch the guy for a while Stomp him a bit Now sell for a while Reverse something into that DDT Do that lame turnbuckle clothesline Stomp some more Sell If you're gonna win: hit the finisher out of nowhere If you're gonna lose: sell some more, slide out of a guy's finisher one time, then lose That's it. SO by-the-numbers it's insane. People rag on Cena for "5 MOVES OF DOOM LOL!!" but he has a different match depending on his opponent and can work with the other guy to make it damn exciting.
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Post by King Ghidorah on Mar 3, 2012 16:16:39 GMT -5
Yes, because wrestling is all about MOVES in a MATCH, am I right? *sigh* Nope, but if you're a good wrestler you could turn 5 moves into a variety of different matches. Here's EVERY SINGLE MIZ MATCH: Punch the guy for a while Stomp him a bit Now sell for a while Reverse something into that DDT Do that lame turnbuckle clothesline Stomp some more Sell If you're gonna win: hit the finisher out of nowhere If you're gonna lose: sell some more, slide out of a guy's finisher one time, then lose That's it. SO by-the-numbers it's insane. People rag on Cena for "5 MOVES OF DOOM LOL!!" but he has a different match depending on his opponent and can work with the other guy to make it damn exciting. CM Punk: Fake Tai thing Macho Elbow drop Corner knee thing to bull dog GTS *If opponent gets out, Kick em!* Submissions Sell See how easy that is!?
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Post by norsisclouds on Mar 3, 2012 16:21:30 GMT -5
Well, look at his work rate. He's lazy. That's why it appears he doesn't appreciate it. If he put in more effort and actually looked like he was trying I'd have a higher opinion of whether he really appreciates it or not. Either he's lazy or he just sucks and can't rise to the occasion and isn't capable of working any harder than he is now. I agree with this, although I want to expand a bit. In the WWE, when you get pushed to the next level, you bring it big time. D-Bry's got a rocket strapped to his butt and has consistently shown the WWE he deserves it. He's putting together better and better matches every week and expanding his character to become more interesting. Sheamus is getting pushed like crazy too, and he's doing more and more in his matches to get the crowd amped up. Meanwhile Miz was the WWE champ for months and.... uh..... wrestled the same match every single time? Said "AWESOME" the same way every week? Miz was given a crazy push in the Rumble and given more than 40 minutes to showcase what he could do. Anybody else would have thrown in new moves, done interesting spots, something. Miz... wrestled the same bland boring style he always does. And hid for most of the match not really doing anything. He was in there for 40 minutes, and he didn't think "Hey maybe I should do something to show people that I'm still a strong force, that I actually care." Instead he was incredibly forgettable, I blame that on him. There are plenty of people who aren't getting a push or taken seriously but take full advantage of the time they're given. Look at Michelle McCool before her big push. In '07 they had a diva battle royale, and rather than eliminate herself normally she decided to do a fight on the top turnbuckle and go over the rope, showing some dedication and athleticism in the process. She wasn't in there long, but it was a "hey, that person has heart". What about the bumps Barrett or Sheamus were willing to take, or all the work Daniel Bryan does to take advantage of his time in the spotlight? The Miz coasts, and it's noticeable. He's lazy. Even if they are f***ing him over in booking, he could at least look like he cares. Even JoMo put in more effort when he was clearly being buried on his way out.
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