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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Dec 20, 2016 8:18:00 GMT -5
Curious if there are any stories as bad as somethings that have happened in the past. Overall things seem to have gotten a lot better.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Dec 20, 2016 10:10:05 GMT -5
YOU SURE ABOUT THAT BROTHER
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Post by chronocross on Dec 20, 2016 10:23:38 GMT -5
Wasn't there a guy who made a racist joke to Del Rio and wouldn't apologize and Del Rio smacked the guy a couple of years back?
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Dec 20, 2016 10:35:42 GMT -5
Vincent Kennedy McMahon.
1. Him using the n Word in a promo.
2. Sweet Saphire.
3. Having his talent use "uncle tom" term in promos.
4. Blackfaces.
5. Thinking that all of his african american talent look the same and not even bothering to learn their names.
Jeff Jarrett.
R-Truth send Terry Taylor an email in which it said that Jarrett constantly called him the n Word.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Dec 20, 2016 10:43:17 GMT -5
Didn't Jeff Jarrett's casual racism cause TNA to lose a lawsuit? Likewise, Michael P.S. Hayes said offensive things to Mark Henry and allegedly told Bobby Lashley to his face that 'he didn't like him, or anyone who looks like him' which lead to Lashley asking for and receiving his release with no strings attached.
Triple H has the habit of calling hispanic wrestlers Bumblebee after the Simpsons Bumblebee Man character, according to Ricardo Rodriguez, he called him that, Super Crazy and even Savio Vega too. When he was doing his post release press conferences in Mexico, Del Rio also claimed that the member of management that informed him of his release (Triple H), had the habit of making racist jokes in front of people. The WWE made a lot of noise when he started looking to work for other promotions but backed down on their threats of enforcing his punitive no compete clause, provided he stopped talking about the casual racism among WWE management.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Dec 20, 2016 10:56:26 GMT -5
There has to be something said about the total lack of black people winning the WWE championship, aside from the Rock, where Vince's boner for the Anoai family trumps it.
The lack of Brits winning a WWE title I can put down to circumstance, but no black people? come on.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Dec 20, 2016 10:58:38 GMT -5
Vincent Kennedy McMahon. 5. Thinking that all of his african american talent look the same and not even bothering to learn their names. I will defend Vince on this point, he's a 70 year old man who reportedly doesn't sleep and has seen hundreds of talent come and go in the past 10 years, he's sent guys who aren't on the payroll out to do things in the ring because they're there and generally behaves erratically so mixing up people's names is kind of to be expected. I have little doubt he's done that with lowercard talent a hundred times or more, regardless of race.
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Post by 魔界5号 on Dec 20, 2016 11:10:35 GMT -5
Go "Too Asian" Shiozaki
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Dec 20, 2016 11:19:24 GMT -5
In case you're serious, that 'news' started on here as a joke.
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 20, 2016 11:20:29 GMT -5
Vincent Kennedy McMahon. 5. Thinking that all of his african american talent look the same and not even bothering to learn their names. I will defend Vince on this point, he's a 70 year old man who reportedly doesn't sleep and has seen hundreds of talent come and go in the past 10 years, he's sent guys who aren't on the payroll out to do things in the ring because they're there and generally behaves erratically so mixing up people's names is kind of to be expected. I have little doubt he's done that with lowercard talent a hundred times or more, regardless of race. That, and he likely had never even met Tarver before, who was a similar build to Shelton Benjamin, and in a room loaded with the entire roster. It'd be like confusing a Harris Twin for Luke Gallows. Comical, but kinda understandable compared to how it could have been.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Dec 20, 2016 12:25:07 GMT -5
Vincent Kennedy McMahon. 5. Thinking that all of his african american talent look the same and not even bothering to learn their names. I will defend Vince on this point, he's a 70 year old man who reportedly doesn't sleep and has seen hundreds of talent come and go in the past 10 years, he's sent guys who aren't on the payroll out to do things in the ring because they're there and generally behaves erratically so mixing up people's names is kind of to be expected. I have little doubt he's done that with lowercard talent a hundred times or more, regardless of race. Shelton Benjamin had been fired for years at that point... Also he called Big E who had been signed for a couple of years Zeke, who had also been fired for years. It hasn't been an isolated incident. I've never heard a story of McMahon confusing white wrestlers. Vince also thought it was a good idea having the new day come out rolling dices and with stereotypes.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Dec 20, 2016 12:30:08 GMT -5
There has to be something said about the total lack of black people winning the WWE championship, aside from the Rock, where Vince's boner for the Anoai family trumps it. The lack of Brits winning a WWE title I can put down to circumstance, but no black people? come on. Not that you don't have a good argument, but you kinda forgot Booker T
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Dec 20, 2016 12:36:39 GMT -5
There has to be something said about the total lack of black people winning the WWE championship, aside from the Rock, where Vince's boner for the Anoai family trumps it. The lack of Brits winning a WWE title I can put down to circumstance, but no black people? come on. Not that you don't have a good argument, but you kinda forgot Booker T yeah, Booker T, the 0 time, 0 time, 0 time, 0 time, 0 time WWE champion. He and Mark Henry both won the WHC LONG after it was established as the one that doesn't matter.
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I don't get it. At all. It's kind of a small horse, I mean what am I missing? Am I crazy?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Dec 20, 2016 12:40:57 GMT -5
Not that you don't have a good argument, but you kinda forgot Booker T yeah, Booker T, the 0 time, 0 time, 0 time, 0 time, 0 time WWE champion. He and Mark Henry both won the WHC LONG after it was established as the one that doesn't matter. I get your point, but still a world title though.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Dec 20, 2016 12:46:05 GMT -5
I will defend Vince on this point, he's a 70 year old man who reportedly doesn't sleep and has seen hundreds of talent come and go in the past 10 years, he's sent guys who aren't on the payroll out to do things in the ring because they're there and generally behaves erratically so mixing up people's names is kind of to be expected. I have little doubt he's done that with lowercard talent a hundred times or more, regardless of race. Shelton Benjamin had been fired for years at that point... Also he called Big E who had been signed for a couple of years Zeke, who had also been fired for years. It hasn't been an isolated incident. I've never heard a story of McMahon confusing white wrestlers. Vince also thought it was a good idea having the new day come out rolling dices and with stereotypes. Vince doesn't keep track of who is and isn't on the payroll, that's not a racist thing, that's Vince only really caring about the top 10% of his wrestlers, see the Jimmy Yang rehiring, or vince demanding that James Curtis be hired after seeing him in a dark match, despite the guy being under contract for several years at that point and so on and so forth. Vince was 100% behind the New Day even when the fans hated their act and had enough faith to let them find their feet when people here were yelling about how they should be split immediately, heck, he supposedly wanted Big E to be the next guy pushed a the face of the company until Triple H got in his ear about Reigns. I'm not saying Vince isn't a little racist, but I don't think he's in the same ballpark as guys like Bill Watts or Jarrett.
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Post by unc40 on Dec 20, 2016 12:49:33 GMT -5
The lack of Brits winning a WWE title I can put down to circumstance, but no black people? come on. Vince is still upset that the British set fire to our capital during the War of 1812.
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Post by James Fabiano on Dec 20, 2016 12:57:03 GMT -5
There was an indy "star" who recently has had it out with Sabu on Twitter as he's trying to prove his GoFundMe a "fraud." I won't say who but it sounds like "Calvin Mathers". This led to a moment where he publicly used anti-transgender slurs at Melissa Coates. On one hand, if she was TG, well nuff said. But if not, really? We're still using homophobic insults in this day and age to get under people's skins? Is this high school in the 80s?
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Post by The Ichi on Dec 20, 2016 12:57:15 GMT -5
For a more unintentional one, how about calling Mark Henry a Silverback? I get what they were going for - Gorillas are strong, Mark Henry is strong - but I still wonder how that got past the drawing board.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Dec 20, 2016 13:01:09 GMT -5
Shelton Benjamin had been fired for years at that point... Also he called Big E who had been signed for a couple of years Zeke, who had also been fired for years. It hasn't been an isolated incident. I've never heard a story of McMahon confusing white wrestlers. Vince also thought it was a good idea having the new day come out rolling dices and with stereotypes. Vince doesn't keep track of who is and isn't on the payroll, that's not a racist thing, that's Vince only really caring about the top 10% of his wrestlers, see the Jimmy Yang rehiring, or vince demanding that James Curtis be hired after seeing him in a dark match, despite the guy being under contract for several years at that point and so on and so forth. Vince was 100% behind the New Day even when the fans hated their act and had enough faith to let them find their feet when people here were yelling about how they should be split immediately, heck, he supposedly wanted Big E to be the next guy pushed a the face of the company until Triple H got in his ear about Reigns. I'm not saying Vince isn't a little racist, but I don't think he's in the same ballpark as guys like Bill Watts or Jarrett. Vince didn't confuse those Jimmy and Curtis. McMahon confuses black talent names in more than one ocassion. Also the fact that he thought it would be ok to say the n word in a promo, makes him a racist in the same level as Watts in my opinion.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Dec 20, 2016 13:01:38 GMT -5
For a more unintentional one, how about calling Mark Henry a Silverback? I get what they were going for - Gorillas are strong, Mark Henry is strong - but I still wonder how that got past the drawing board. I bet anything that Michael Hayes was behind it.
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