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Post by domrep on Dec 20, 2019 10:01:07 GMT -5
Does anyone else feel like the WWE is hot shotting NXT? They've been hot shotting NXT since the moment they got on USA. To say otherwise is being naive.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Dec 20, 2019 10:19:56 GMT -5
All I know is if we got Joey Janela doing full frontal, the ratings would soar.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 20, 2019 11:05:16 GMT -5
Does anyone else feel like the WWE is hot shotting NXT? They've been hot shotting NXT since the moment they got on USA. To say otherwise is being naive. More like they have a stacked roster they use to their advantage. Nothing is random, everything they do matches in storyline which is why they are able to create compelling matchups
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Dec 20, 2019 11:42:48 GMT -5
Meltzer says AEW fans want it to be like NXT. I don't, I find NXT to be dull with no characters, everyone just looks the same. There's only so many times I can appreciate a good wrestling match before wanting something more. Then again I wasn't a fan of ROH in the 2000s where everyone said how great it was. I grew up in the attitude era and I just wanna see an exciting weekly product with great stories, feuds and characters. I still think AEW is the best weekly wrestling show, they've had a lot of great episodes so far, hot crowds every week and some great moments. 2020 will be a big year for them to decide what sort of product they want to be. WCW became hot with the nWo angle. I feel AEW needs a moment like that to make people think "oh shit I need to watch this every Wednesday". The next 3-6 months will be interesting. Completely agreed, and yeah, no, f*** that noise. I don’t want it to be like NXT at all. My favorite moment this last week was the Jericho/Jungle Boy match ( FAR from the best “Workrate” match on the show) followed by the drama of the tie, followed by the tease of an extra five minutes, followed by the disappointment and anger at Jericho cowardly walking away, followed by the utter humor and absurdity of his promo with Tony and happiness and hope for Jungle Boy in the future. A roller coaster of sentiment. That’s pro-wrestling to me. People don’t like that and dig other stuff..Cool! There’s plenty of variety around these days, watch or don’t. I usually agree with Dave a lot but that’s a hard no.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2019 12:34:07 GMT -5
Does anyone else feel like the WWE is hot shotting NXT? Nope, it's not a hotshot. A hotshot would be sending all of the main roster to NXT every week or numerous times when ratings get lower like most people were saying they'd do when AEW was winning all the time. A hotshot would be having constant title changes when the only title changes they've had are to 2 titles which makes sense. They're building NXT correctly through basic steps. I'll break it down.
- First they set the basic building blocks up with the first few weeks on USA. They show you how their 2 hours will be. Nothing wild but basically it sets the foundation for who will be the initial main stars on the brand. Undisputed Era, Ciampa, Shayna, Balor's return, basic stuff like that. Alongside that they establish it's midcard with the Riddles, Keith Lees, Dijaks and the rest. With this they're also showing how you can have multiple talent mixing in with others rather than being kept apart. - Next you get the Survivor Series stuff in which the NXT stars get more exposure by mingling with the main roster stars. Guys and girls getting rubs from the main roster helps establish the third brand aspect. - The main roster stars show up on NXT which helps NXT out. - NXT beats AEW. A good amount of people say they'll never do it again without their main roster sliding over. Remember this. - The midcarders from before (Keith Lee, Dijak, Dakota) become elevated through the Survivor Series/War Games build and while they're still in the midcard, they're building their storylines. You have the Mia Yims and Matt Riddles on the side too but along that you've got the Dains, Priests and Dunnes as well. The midcard is set in a way that you know they'll eventually elevate rather than be stagnant, there's changes. - Main roster doesn't show up on NXT anymore and NXT continues to build it's storylines up focusing on it's main people as it's midcard division continues to look great but on the side you've got new midcarders aka the return of Kushida and Cameron Grimes who just a few weeks ago, wasn't anything to talk about. You've got Xia Li who's improved and is getting more screentime. You also have Bianca Belair reestablishing herself.
- Rhea beats Shayna which makes complete sense and sets up a new era in the NXT Women's Division. Garza beat Lio last week which set up a new Cruiserweight division, Balor didn't beat Cole but Gargano returned so there's their feud continuing. Overall there's a clear path.
You can literally put together a Takeover level tv episode with all they've done. Rhea/Dakota, Keith Lee/Ciampa, Dijak/Strong for the NA Title, these would work as Takeovers or tv matches. Lets continue with Rhea, you can do Rhea/Dakota, Rhea/Io, Rhea/Candace, Rhea/Tegan, Rhea/Bianca, all of them can fit as a Takeover because of how well they're building these stars. That's what NXT has done. It's done a great job at building it's brand and individual stars up in such a way that not only is there a constant stream of elevation with the talent but everything's mixed together in a way that all it takes is one change and you've got a hyped match. Next year around this time you'll see Keith Lee, Io, Dijak and Dakota getting more shine while the midcard will have risen up to the top. We're going to see Keith lee's era, Dijak's era, Balor's next era, Undisputed Era's breakup, there's so much right here that you can see they're building towards. There's a basic structure in place. No hotshotting needed and mind you, they haven't hit the road yet, they haven't even finished fleshing out their roster to peak levels, they haven't really gone to the well. In movie terms NXT is basically like the Avengers right now by having a lot of smaller movies all coming together in one grand arc and each movie works off the others in small ways. It flows very well, it's streamlined and that's basically been their MO for a while now. AEW, sure they're building some stars up but they're missing a lot of easy stuff. Like I said earlier in the thread, Cody made that Elite/Inner Circle comment some weeks ago but rather than capitalizing on it when it was needed or continuously building towards it they left it aside. That's just easy money and sure, they can build those stars up again but that would have worked well off that Jericho feud. You've got them doing experiments like the Librarians and Dark Order and Britt Baker to see if it works or not and I give them props for being courageous to do that but shit, NXT doesn't really do that.
Like the whole Moxley thing with AEW, they know he's that dude and yet he's out doing his standard stuff when the truth is they need to build him vs Jericho in a way that makes sense rather than teasing it and then leaving it alone and then when it happens down the line it's not to the level it needs to be. That feud needs to have a Taker/Kane WM14 level build to where you're itching to see them fight. It's weird. They're using different building styles. NXTs is more streamlined while AEW's is less so.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 20, 2019 13:30:02 GMT -5
Does anyone else feel like the WWE is hot shotting NXT? Nope, it's not a hotshot. A hotshot would be sending all of the main roster to NXT every week or numerous times when ratings get lower like most people were saying they'd do when AEW was winning all the time. A hotshot would be having constant title changes when the only title changes they've had are to 2 titles which makes sense. They're building NXT correctly through basic steps. I'll break it down.
- First they set the basic building blocks up with the first few weeks on USA. They show you how their 2 hours will be. Nothing wild but basically it sets the foundation for who will be the initial main stars on the brand. Undisputed Era, Ciampa, Shayna, Balor's return, basic stuff like that. Alongside that they establish it's midcard with the Riddles, Keith Lees, Dijaks and the rest. With this they're also showing how you can have multiple talent mixing in with others rather than being kept apart. - Next you get the Survivor Series in which the NXT stars get more exposure by mingling with the main roster stars. Guys and girls getting rubs from the main roster helps establish the third brand aspect. - The main roster stars show up on NXT which helps NXT out. - NXT beats AEW. A good amount of people say they'll never do it again without their main roster sliding over. Remember this. - The midcarders from before (Keith Lee, Dijak, Dakota) become elevated through the Survivor Series/War Games build and while they're still in the midcard, they're building their storylines. You have the Mia Yims and Matt Riddles on the side too but along that you've got the Dains, Priests and Dunnes as well. The midcard is set in a way that you know they'll eventually elevate rather than be stagnant, there's changes. - Main roster doesn't show up on NXT anymore and NXT continues to build it's storylines up focusing on it's main people as it's midcard division continues to look great but on the side you've got new midcarders aka the return of Kushida and Cameron Grimes who just a few weeks ago, wasn't anything to talk about. You've got Xia Li who's improved and is getting more screentime. You also have Bianca Belair reestablishing herself.
- Rhea beats Shayna which makes complete sense and sets up a new era in the NXT Women's Division. Garza beat Lio last week which set up a new Cruiserweight division, Balor didn't beat Cole but Gargano returned so there's their feud continuing. Overall there's a clear path.
You can literally put together a Takeover level tv episode with all they've done. Rhea/Dakota, Keith Lee/Ciampa, Dijak/Strong for the NA Title, these would work as Takeovers or tv matches. Lets continue with Rhea, you can do Rhea/Dakota, Rhea/Io, Rhea/Candace, Rhea/Tegan, Rhea/Bianca, all of them can fit as a Takeover because of how well they're building these stars. That's what NXT has done. It's done a great job at building it's brand and individual stars up in such a way that not only is there a constant stream of elevation with the talent but everything's mixed together in a way that all it takes is one change and you've got a hyped match. Next year around this time you'll see Keith Lee, Io, Dijak and Dakota getting more shine while the midcard will have risen up to the top. We're going to see Keith lee's era, Dijak's era, Balor's next era, Undisputed Era's breakup, there's so much right here that you can see they're building towards. There's a basic structure in place. No hotshotting needed and mind you, they haven't hit the road yet, they haven't even finished fleshing out their roster to peak levels, they haven't really gone to the lwell. In movie terms NXT is basically like the Avengers right now by having a lot of smaller movies all coming together in one grand arc and each movie works off the others in small ways. It flows very well, it's streamlined and that's basically been their MO for a while now. AEW, sure they're building some stars up but they're missing a lot of easy stuff. Like I said earlier in the thread, Cody made that Elite/Inner Circle comment some weeks ago but rather than capitalizing on it when it was needed or continuously building towards it they left it aside. That's just easy money and sure, they can build those stars up again but that would have worked well off that Jericho feud. You've got them doing experiments like the Librarians and Dark Order and Britt Baker to see if it works or not and I give them props for being courageous to do that but shit, NXT doesn't really do that.
Like the whole Moxley thing with AEW, they know he's that dude and yet he's out doing his standard stuff when the truth is they need to build him vs Jericho in a way that makes sense rather than teasing it and then leaving it alone and then when it happens down the line it's not to the level it needs to be. That feud needs to have a Taker/Kane WM14 level build to where you're itching to see them fight. It's weird. They're using different building styles. NXTs is more streamlined while AEW's is less so.
The basic thing is NXT is stacked and have used their characters right This past show was easily worthy of a Takeover card but keep in mind the talent that didn't show up like Ciampa, Lee, Dijak, Roddy, Fish and Kyle, Bianca, Garza, Riddle, Swerve etc They have the ability to produce high end shows so no it is not hotshotting, that's just the quality of the show
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2019 13:56:47 GMT -5
My current personal way to not so much judge but just to gauge more or less growth in the shows creative directions AEW's quality right now is up against only season 1 of LU episode by episode.
both new companies even though AEW has 2hrs compared to their 1 and one was pre-taped and the other live etc both head to head with NXT.
AEW has 12 episodes in the can and after 12 episode I guess one can say they have sort of found their identity , establishing alot of angles some good and some not so much but IMO atleast no one has really stood out from the pack by this point...there is alot going on but no one yet to be THEE stand out and that is my biggest take away after 12 episodes.
Where as LU by 12 episodes...they were gaining steam after Aztec Warfare and now their identity is starting to come together , this episodes is a big emphasis on Cage hence the title of the episode and really starts setting up Darios big arc with black lotus and ends with a big moment with cage ripping the "lu title" in half.
So really in alot of ways by episode 12 AEW was sort of in a similar place to LU with people still wondering what exactly the company wants to be but where AEW sort of faultered with a few of their angles by 12 , LU was on their game in this one.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2019 14:57:46 GMT -5
WWE will eventually run out of Takeover level matches to slap onto TV. They'll keep shuffling some main roster guys down to NXT here and there, but eventually NXT is going to be "Been there, seen that" like everything else in WWE. They just know if they can keep it up long enough. AEW will never recover against them. It's standard business practice. If you got deep pockets or resources you go harder for longer than your opponent; you just do it until you drive down public perception far enough you don't have to try anymore. Then you can go back to your normal.
I'll probably still have to suffer through people sucking it off every week in threads to the point of utter redundancy since apparently if you're happy with the product of AEW as it is, you're an idiot. Almost half of the non-live posts in the AEW board now are people bitching about the product already. This shit is killing any love I had left for wrestling in general. It's like liking the new Star Wars movies. You can only go so long listening to EVERYONE bitch and moan and nitpick every little f***ing thing until you get to the point where you can barely enjoy the thing you like anymore. You sure as shit can't talk about it without someone butting in to tell you how shitty it is.
It's just...it's wearing me out. I just want to be allowed to like wrestling without feeling like I have to compromise my morals and watch a WWE product.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2019 15:10:07 GMT -5
Nope, it's not a hotshot. A hotshot would be sending all of the main roster to NXT every week or numerous times when ratings get lower like most people were saying they'd do when AEW was winning all the time. A hotshot would be having constant title changes when the only title changes they've had are to 2 titles which makes sense. They're building NXT correctly through basic steps. I'll break it down.
- First they set the basic building blocks up with the first few weeks on USA. They show you how their 2 hours will be. Nothing wild but basically it sets the foundation for who will be the initial main stars on the brand. Undisputed Era, Ciampa, Shayna, Balor's return, basic stuff like that. Alongside that they establish it's midcard with the Riddles, Keith Lees, Dijaks and the rest. With this they're also showing how you can have multiple talent mixing in with others rather than being kept apart. - Next you get the Survivor Series in which the NXT stars get more exposure by mingling with the main roster stars. Guys and girls getting rubs from the main roster helps establish the third brand aspect. - The main roster stars show up on NXT which helps NXT out. - NXT beats AEW. A good amount of people say they'll never do it again without their main roster sliding over. Remember this. - The midcarders from before (Keith Lee, Dijak, Dakota) become elevated through the Survivor Series/War Games build and while they're still in the midcard, they're building their storylines. You have the Mia Yims and Matt Riddles on the side too but along that you've got the Dains, Priests and Dunnes as well. The midcard is set in a way that you know they'll eventually elevate rather than be stagnant, there's changes. - Main roster doesn't show up on NXT anymore and NXT continues to build it's storylines up focusing on it's main people as it's midcard division continues to look great but on the side you've got new midcarders aka the return of Kushida and Cameron Grimes who just a few weeks ago, wasn't anything to talk about. You've got Xia Li who's improved and is getting more screentime. You also have Bianca Belair reestablishing herself.
- Rhea beats Shayna which makes complete sense and sets up a new era in the NXT Women's Division. Garza beat Lio last week which set up a new Cruiserweight division, Balor didn't beat Cole but Gargano returned so there's their feud continuing. Overall there's a clear path.
You can literally put together a Takeover level tv episode with all they've done. Rhea/Dakota, Keith Lee/Ciampa, Dijak/Strong for the NA Title, these would work as Takeovers or tv matches. Lets continue with Rhea, you can do Rhea/Dakota, Rhea/Io, Rhea/Candace, Rhea/Tegan, Rhea/Bianca, all of them can fit as a Takeover because of how well they're building these stars. That's what NXT has done. It's done a great job at building it's brand and individual stars up in such a way that not only is there a constant stream of elevation with the talent but everything's mixed together in a way that all it takes is one change and you've got a hyped match. Next year around this time you'll see Keith Lee, Io, Dijak and Dakota getting more shine while the midcard will have risen up to the top. We're going to see Keith lee's era, Dijak's era, Balor's next era, Undisputed Era's breakup, there's so much right here that you can see they're building towards. There's a basic structure in place. No hotshotting needed and mind you, they haven't hit the road yet, they haven't even finished fleshing out their roster to peak levels, they haven't really gone to the lwell. In movie terms NXT is basically like the Avengers right now by having a lot of smaller movies all coming together in one grand arc and each movie works off the others in small ways. It flows very well, it's streamlined and that's basically been their MO for a while now. AEW, sure they're building some stars up but they're missing a lot of easy stuff. Like I said earlier in the thread, Cody made that Elite/Inner Circle comment some weeks ago but rather than capitalizing on it when it was needed or continuously building towards it they left it aside. That's just easy money and sure, they can build those stars up again but that would have worked well off that Jericho feud. You've got them doing experiments like the Librarians and Dark Order and Britt Baker to see if it works or not and I give them props for being courageous to do that but shit, NXT doesn't really do that.
Like the whole Moxley thing with AEW, they know he's that dude and yet he's out doing his standard stuff when the truth is they need to build him vs Jericho in a way that makes sense rather than teasing it and then leaving it alone and then when it happens down the line it's not to the level it needs to be. That feud needs to have a Taker/Kane WM14 level build to where you're itching to see them fight. It's weird. They're using different building styles. NXTs is more streamlined while AEW's is less so.
The basic thing is NXT is stacked and have used their characters right This past show was easily worthy of a Takeover card but keep in mind the talent that didn't show up like Ciampa, Lee, Dijak, Roddy, Fish and Kyle, Bianca, Garza, Riddle, Swerve etc They have the ability to produce high end shows so no it is not hotshotting, that's just the quality of the show Yeah they still didn't use all of their people and yet they still put on a Takeover-like show, that says a lot. Also factoring into that you've got the potential turns, factions and other additions as well that'll brighten things. There's just so much they can do. It's very Attitude Era-like roster-wise in that you've got an entire roster and everyone can be used well if given time but then they might not show up for a few weeks and it's great for them.
That's using your time wisely.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 20, 2019 15:33:06 GMT -5
The basic thing is NXT is stacked and have used their characters right This past show was easily worthy of a Takeover card but keep in mind the talent that didn't show up like Ciampa, Lee, Dijak, Roddy, Fish and Kyle, Bianca, Garza, Riddle, Swerve etc They have the ability to produce high end shows so no it is not hotshotting, that's just the quality of the show Yeah they still didn't use all of their people and yet they still put on a Takeover-like show, that says a lot. Also factoring into that you've got the potential turns, factions and other additions as well that'll brighten things. There's just so much they can do. It's very Attitude Era-like roster-wise in that you've got an entire roster and everyone can be used well if given time but then they might not show up for a few weeks and it's great for them.
That's using your time wisely.
If you think NXT is going to run out of matches then idk what to tell you. They literally have a back log of women who haven’t gotten TV time yet due to how strong that division is. The show has been built around UE holding the titles while not necessarily putting the whole show around them Gargano and Dream have hardly been around thanks to Injuries since TV has been around.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2019 16:23:57 GMT -5
Yeah they still didn't use all of their people and yet they still put on a Takeover-like show, that says a lot. Also factoring into that you've got the potential turns, factions and other additions as well that'll brighten things. There's just so much they can do. It's very Attitude Era-like roster-wise in that you've got an entire roster and everyone can be used well if given time but then they might not show up for a few weeks and it's great for them. That's using your time wisely.
If you think NXT is going to run out of matches then idk what to tell you. They literally have a back log of women who haven’t gotten TV time yet due to how strong that division is. The show has been built around UE holding the titles while not necessarily putting the whole show around them Gargano and Dream have hardly been around thanks to Injuries since TV has been around. Right. They've still got a list of people that hasn't been seen on tv much that the crowd still likes. Besides that they still have different eras to go through. Like I said before we still need to see - Rhea's long reign as champion - Io's rise to eventual champion - Dakota Kai's rise and eventual championship win as lead heel - Keith Lee's championship win and reign - Dijak's rise to eventually turning heel like we know he's gonna do - Ciampa and Gargano teaming up again - Undisputed Era eventually breaking up - Dain becoming a main event monster just wrecking dudes - Dunne eventually becoming champion - Priest making himself known in the same way Nakamura did with his style - Roddy eventually turning face There's so much at play here we haven't even talked about yet and I was just saying stuff just now. All of these things are angles that when you look at NXT you think "ok, I can see where they're headed with this." I wish I knew what would happen with more of AEW and their stars but I don't. The only surefire things I see us getting is a Jericho/Moxley feud where Moxley's wrecking the Inner Circle, MJF becoming the lead heel champion and then Darby potentially winning the belt down the line proving he's the new daredevil on the block.
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Post by XIII on Dec 20, 2019 16:27:39 GMT -5
I definitely think that AEW should figure a way to focus each episode on Moxley for now to help draw interest. Just give him month long mini-story arcs in between his main angle with Jericho etc.
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Post by Cyno on Dec 20, 2019 16:28:24 GMT -5
Moxley wasn't on Wednesday's show because he was on vacation, so there's that. He and Renee went to Hawaii.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2019 16:34:25 GMT -5
I definitely think that AEW should figure a way to focus each episode on Moxley for now to help draw interest. Just give him month long mini-story arcs in between his main angle with Jericho etc. There's a lot you can do with him. Honestly, I'd love a " Megaman mo Xley" style booking for him. Say he feuds with each member of the Inner Circle until he makes it to Jericho. Not just matches but feuds, just to prove a point. That's 5 different feuds until the Jericho match and it'll give him time to knock everybody off until it's time to give him the belt.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2019 16:36:06 GMT -5
If you think NXT is going to run out of matches then idk what to tell you. They literally have a back log of women who haven’t gotten TV time yet due to how strong that division is. The show has been built around UE holding the titles while not necessarily putting the whole show around them Gargano and Dream have hardly been around thanks to Injuries since TV has been around. Right. They've still got a list of people that hasn't been seen on tv much that the crowd still likes. Besides that they still have different eras to go through. Like I said before we still need to see - Rhea's long reign as champion - Io's rise to eventual champion - Dakota Kai's rise and eventual championship win as lead heel - Keith Lee's championship win and reign - Dijak's rise to eventually turning heel like we know he's gonna do - Ciampa and Gargano teaming up again - Undisputed Era eventually breaking up - Dain becoming a main event monster just wrecking dudes - Dunne eventually becoming champion - Priest making himself known in the same way Nakamura did with his style - Roddy eventually turning face There's so much at play here we haven't even talked about yet and I was just saying stuff just now. All of these things are angles that when you look at NXT you think "ok, I can see where they're headed with this." I wish I knew what would happen with more of AEW and their stars but I don't. The only surefire things I see us getting is a Jericho/Moxley feud where Moxley's wrecking the Inner Circle, MJF becoming the lead heel champion and then Darby potentially winning the belt down the line proving he's the new daredevil on the block. The scary thing is those people you listed are just the people we are seeing consistently on screen now. We still got people like Swerve who while has gotten a bit of shine NXT has not even really started with him yet And then u got signess like Fantasma and Shotzi Blackheart , and Scarlett and potentially Killer Kross if he signs There is no shortage of talent and TakeOver matches since so much more is waiting in the wings.
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Post by markymark on Dec 20, 2019 16:42:17 GMT -5
Moxley wasn't on Wednesday's show because he was on vacation, so there's that. He and Renee went to Hawaii. I feel its better to keep him healthy for the first 2 shows in Florida which are a must for AEW.
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Dec 20, 2019 16:53:37 GMT -5
Moxley wasn't on Wednesday's show because he was on vacation, so there's that. He and Renee went to Hawaii. I feel its better to keep him healthy for the first 2 shows in Florida which are a must for AEW. Yeah, I’m sure Renee will see to that.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2019 16:54:09 GMT -5
Right. They've still got a list of people that hasn't been seen on tv much that the crowd still likes. Besides that they still have different eras to go through. Like I said before we still need to see - Rhea's long reign as champion - Io's rise to eventual champion - Dakota Kai's rise and eventual championship win as lead heel - Keith Lee's championship win and reign - Dijak's rise to eventually turning heel like we know he's gonna do - Ciampa and Gargano teaming up again - Undisputed Era eventually breaking up - Dain becoming a main event monster just wrecking dudes - Dunne eventually becoming champion - Priest making himself known in the same way Nakamura did with his style - Roddy eventually turning face There's so much at play here we haven't even talked about yet and I was just saying stuff just now. All of these things are angles that when you look at NXT you think "ok, I can see where they're headed with this." I wish I knew what would happen with more of AEW and their stars but I don't. The only surefire things I see us getting is a Jericho/Moxley feud where Moxley's wrecking the Inner Circle, MJF becoming the lead heel champion and then Darby potentially winning the belt down the line proving he's the new daredevil on the block. The scary thing is those people you listed are just the people we are seeing consistently on screen now. We still got people like Swerve who while has gotten a bit of shine NXT has not even really started with him yet And then u got signess like Fantasma and Shotzi Blackheart , and Scarlett and potentially Killer Kross if he signs There is no shortage of talent and TakeOver matches since so much more is waiting in the wings. Right I was just naming the ones we've seen these past few weeks but there's more we haven't even seen yet. It's really crazy.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 20, 2019 16:58:59 GMT -5
If you think NXT is going to run out of matches then idk what to tell you. They literally have a back log of women who haven’t gotten TV time yet due to how strong that division is. The show has been built around UE holding the titles while not necessarily putting the whole show around them Gargano and Dream have hardly been around thanks to Injuries since TV has been around. Right. They've still got a list of people that hasn't been seen on tv much that the crowd still likes. Besides that they still have different eras to go through. Like I said before we still need to see - Rhea's long reign as champion - Io's rise to eventual champion - Dakota Kai's rise and eventual championship win as lead heel - Keith Lee's championship win and reign - Dijak's rise to eventually turning heel like we know he's gonna do - Ciampa and Gargano teaming up again - Undisputed Era eventually breaking up - Dain becoming a main event monster just wrecking dudes - Dunne eventually becoming champion - Priest making himself known in the same way Nakamura did with his style - Roddy eventually turning face There's so much at play here we haven't even talked about yet and I was just saying stuff just now. All of these things are angles that when you look at NXT you think "ok, I can see where they're headed with this." I wish I knew what would happen with more of AEW and their stars but I don't. The only surefire things I see us getting is a Jericho/Moxley feud where Moxley's wrecking the Inner Circle, MJF becoming the lead heel champion and then Darby potentially winning the belt down the line proving he's the new daredevil on the block. And you didn't even mention Riddle, Tegan, Velveteen etc AEW has the ability to do that and they've gotten guys over from scratch but just not to that level
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2019 17:08:35 GMT -5
Right. They've still got a list of people that hasn't been seen on tv much that the crowd still likes. Besides that they still have different eras to go through. Like I said before we still need to see - Rhea's long reign as champion - Io's rise to eventual champion - Dakota Kai's rise and eventual championship win as lead heel - Keith Lee's championship win and reign - Dijak's rise to eventually turning heel like we know he's gonna do - Ciampa and Gargano teaming up again - Undisputed Era eventually breaking up - Dain becoming a main event monster just wrecking dudes - Dunne eventually becoming champion - Priest making himself known in the same way Nakamura did with his style - Roddy eventually turning face There's so much at play here we haven't even talked about yet and I was just saying stuff just now. All of these things are angles that when you look at NXT you think "ok, I can see where they're headed with this." I wish I knew what would happen with more of AEW and their stars but I don't. The only surefire things I see us getting is a Jericho/Moxley feud where Moxley's wrecking the Inner Circle, MJF becoming the lead heel champion and then Darby potentially winning the belt down the line proving he's the new daredevil on the block. And you didn't even mention Riddle, Tegan, Velveteen etc AEW has the ability to do that and they've gotten guys over from scratch but just not to that level They can raise guys but yeah to that level and as often as NXT does? Nah, I don't think so personally. I do like the fact they're trying to raise stars though but at the same time they need to be a bit more selfish with the actual stars themselves. You need stars to make stars. Sure, you can have Omega lose to a new star but it has to make sense. It's like Triple H helping make Batista and Orton. I gradually happened because Trips was a star.
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