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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 16, 2009 21:22:13 GMT -5
I guess its okay for DX to have 500 reunions but not the nWo? Its all sour grapes anyways, they arent going to get back together. Maybe have a loose alliance if anything. D-X's members can still put on good matches and still sells a ton of merchandise. The nWo really hasn't drawn money in like ten years, if that. That isn't exactly true since an entire WWE PPV [nWo 2002] was sold on the return of the nWo and they feuded with the companies two biggest stars in Rock and Austin. After that WWE dropped the ball big time on the nWo. If they had been booked unstoppable like DX always is in any reunion, they probably would have fared better in the aftermath of Wrestlemania. Instead they turned Hogan face because a few crowds cheered him, made Ric Flair their boss and booked them like goofs. Like other people said, they cant reform the nWo in TNA anyway. It wont happen...but I bet if they were able to reform the nWo in WWE everyone would be marking out and saying its the best thing ever instead of going UGGGGGHHHH because any little thing TNA does around here has to have anti TNA people come in here and criticize it. The same people who run anyone down in the WWE section for criticizing anything, funnily enough. Its just predictable. At least offer some opinions as to why you feel like one offhand comment from Nash deserves groans and criticism already.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 16, 2009 20:49:35 GMT -5
Mick Foley comes out after the match and says that Nash knows who Hogan is bringing in. Foley says that Nash needs to tell him why Hogan is coming. Nash says that Foley is being paranoid. Nash tells Foley that he should contact him. Nash says that when the boss, Hogan, gets here, there may be a possibility of the band getting back together. UGHHHHHH. I guess its okay for DX to have 500 reunions but not the nWo? Its all sour grapes anyways, they arent going to get back together. Maybe have a loose alliance if anything.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 16, 2009 20:45:20 GMT -5
People in here do realize that just because they are picking up the license and publishing it doesn't necessarily mean that they are going to develop it right?
I would rather these guys get a crack at it than Midway anyways. Midway had been a terrible developer for quite awhile.
You also cant exactly determine how good a wrestling game made by them may or may not be judging on all these unrelated genres. Spike has developed and published crap like Escape from Bug Island, but they make a damn good wrestling game.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 16, 2009 20:35:11 GMT -5
Also boo at Red jobbing to Steiner He didn't. He won by DQ.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 16, 2009 20:28:55 GMT -5
To be honest I'll probably never be a TNA fan. Now I will say TNA has great talent and though I didn't see Turning Point, the last to matches sound GREAT! and look to be going in the right direction in thoses areas, but and here's come the TNA hate if you will, I don't trust the booking, plain and simple. I need to see good booking in my eyes for a 6/8 month run before I can buy into TNA. TNAs booking has been good for awhile now. Unless you are a severe nitpicker I cant see why you wouldn't think its been good for at least that long...and if you nitpick that badly you must hate WWE since half their booking is either crap or extremely formulaic. Edit: I also agree with the above poster, expecting every single storyline from opener to midcard to main event, every single title holder, every single guy getting a push, etc. to be perfect and completely to your liking is impossible, and will never happen. Looking at it from a realistic perspective TNAs booking has been great for the past year I would say. At the very least its been entertaining and put forth more effort than WWE.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 16, 2009 18:44:48 GMT -5
PUSH THIS MAN!
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 16, 2009 18:40:50 GMT -5
What, you mean not live up to his potential, get released, then hit the juice and show up in TNA using his WWE house show gimmick? That would take some doing. How did he not live up to potential? He was doing great until his push got suddenly halted for no reason. Actually, all of the New Breed were over. Way more over than guys like Drew McIntyre or Sheamus and they were involved in far more interesting angles than beating jobbers every week or getting put on a team, made fun of and then kicked off of it a week later. Cor Von wasnt WWEs fault, Thorn and [especially] Burke were. I dont care what the guys attitude was, unless he was messed up on drugs [though that didnt stop Hardy] he should have been pushed more. He could be lighting it up with Morrison, Punk, Kofi, Miz, MVP, or just about anyone else right now. Burkes probably the biggest ball dropped in a bin full of them over the past 2 to 3 years.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 16, 2009 16:14:42 GMT -5
Half the people on this forum can't spell hornswoggle! Agreed..but doesn't stop them from creating hate thread after complaint thread. To keep that in perspective, Hornswoggle is a LOT less common of a word compared to mowed.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 15, 2009 23:57:37 GMT -5
I think he may have ended up in WCW, because I cant see McMahon putting up with his antics when guys like Austin and Rock started catching fire.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 15, 2009 19:41:14 GMT -5
Saying Miz could replace or usurp Rock is like saying John Cena could replace Hulk Hogan.
Not saying he sucks or I dont like him. Just...no way.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 15, 2009 19:32:09 GMT -5
Mysterio lost a loser leaves Smackdown match to Chavo back in 2006.
Then he returned a few months later...to Smackdown. No explanation why, no complaints from Chavo, no mentions by announcers of what happened before.
So I dont think Miz has much to worry about. It would be nice if they mentioned it and turned it into an angle but if they did I would be shocked.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 15, 2009 19:28:18 GMT -5
He wore out his welcome a LONGGGGGGGG time ago.
The whole Vinces son angle, which made no sense, was barely ever entertaining and had no direction, as evidenced by its total lack of any conclusion, sealed the deal for me.
Since then he has only annoyed me more as the weeks go by. Like someone else said, even if I was a kid I wouldn't like him.
Maybe he is over with children. So was Hurricane. At least Hurricane is a real wrestler who can be placed into angles and feuds to draw money. Hornswoggle just detracts from everything he is involved with.
I want him to pin John Cena or something so we can all just agree that he is terrible and be done with it.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 15, 2009 19:21:37 GMT -5
Man, this is hard...
I cant really decide.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 15, 2009 19:11:55 GMT -5
Off the top of my head, guys with all four: Angle, Foley, Austin, Rock, Hogan, HBK, Flair, Hennig, Jake Roberts, Eddie Guerrero, Chris Jericho, Scott Hall, Hogan, Dibiase, Raven, Dusty Rhodes, Terry Funk, Piper, Savage. Look at that list. All those guys were huge successes in their own right and top draws for the most part. A few of them were not as much a success as they could have been due to their personal problems. Any single one of those guys either were or could be the top guy in any promotion though. I will agree with you on most however I would disagree that Foley and Terry Funk did not have the look and Dusty certainly did not either. That's one of the main reasons Dusty and Funk did not go to far when they were with the WWF. They did not have the correct look that a wrestler should have. Also I would say that is why Foley was never presented as the man either even in his short time at the top he was playing second fiddle to two guys who had all four in Rock and Austin. Also Jericho's 'modern look' is very questionable with his gut. He did have all four I would say though a few years ago when he was more of a cruiser weight. Again I would say that's why Jericho has not gotten a bigger push and being playing second fiddle a lot of the time since his come back a few years back. Jake Roberts most certainly had all four though and can;t believe I left him off my previous list. I will agree that those guys I mentioned did not have the typical WWF superstar look, but I think if anything it added to their respective characters and gimmicks. Also, when I say they could be top guys in a promotion, I dont necessarily mean in a Hogan sense where the entire promotion is built around them, moreso that they could have money drawing title reigns or be credible challengers who could draw money feuding with anyone else on my list. I mean, obviously their look held them back in certain cases. If Dusty looked like Flair in the 80s he could have easily been a top guy in WWF but since he didn't, it held him back. Anywhere else outside of WWF he could be a top draw though. Same for Funk at the time, to a lesser extent. I think Funk could have drawn some big money as a heel challenger in WWF though, like Piper he could have talked his way into credibility.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 15, 2009 13:26:59 GMT -5
Video down, any re uploads? Just search Jericho glow stick on youtube.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 15, 2009 13:24:46 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but the legions of ignorant hicks with "MARRY ME SONNY" signs from 96-98 trump that. How you misspell a name that you see on TV every week spelled out for you....I just do not know. Never forget the scores of CAIN/KAIN/CANE LIVES signs that were still popping up after something like a year of KANE appearing conveniently under him on television every week he came out.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 15, 2009 11:04:20 GMT -5
Related note: I remember watching WCW and seeing someone with a sign that said:
EDDIE GUERRERO IS MY GARDNER.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 15, 2009 11:00:17 GMT -5
ECW is my favorite fed ever probably, so I am right there with you. I just dont think this angle is a good idea, has nothing to do with my feelings about ECW though.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 15, 2009 10:54:37 GMT -5
Also too the guy who said throwing chairs in ECW was dangerous. Grow a pair , Seriously. Plus I bet anyone who was hit with a chair probably got to hang around with the wrestlers afterwards or at the very least a cool story to tell there grand childern. Grow a pair. Okay. Show me one person that pays 20 bucks for a seat and then gets whacked in the back of the head with a steel chair and is happy about it. It's still seriously dangerous to have people throwing steel chairs. They recreated this at an ROH show a few years back and a few people were hurt. Great story grandpa! That's how your skull got cracked opened huh? Now, in fairness when you went to an ECW show it was such a crazy environment that you pretty much expected some dangerous stuff to be afoot. When you are at a show in a tiny arena where a lot of the wrestlers are crazy, like to brawl and jump into the crowd and half the time are armed with weapons they are swinging wildly you are definitely on guard for the shit to hit the fan, especially if the heat starts getting intense. Should stuff like that ever happen at a WWE show? Nope, and I wouldn't encourage it nor defend it. Its dangerous, yes. I also wouldn't be happy at an ECW show if I got smacked with a chair...but I wouldn't be surprised either nor would I feel I had a right to be angry over it, because I knew what I was getting myself into. It would be like driving around Detroit with my windows down and my car door unlocked and then be angry and shocked that my car got jacked.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 15, 2009 10:43:24 GMT -5
John Morrison IS Shawn Michaels circa 1995/6ish You know that HBK headlined both Manias in 1995 and 1996 right? Pretty sure he was more talking about ability and upside. I mean, if Morrison was around in that era he would be headlining WM too...Vince had far less of a stacked talent roster back then.
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