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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 25, 2009 7:57:19 GMT -5
Why did Teddy not just get Chioda to DQ Taker for chokeslamming Armstrong? Or shouldn't Chioda have done that himself? Seemed like blatant abuse of an official to me. I didn't see why Taker had to beat Punk clean again on the go home show for the PPV, unless they're going for the usual 50/50 booking. Anyone else think the same, or have other thoughts? They have done the spot plenty of times [where a wrestler attacks an official and then another one runs out instead of the wrestler being DQed], so it didn't confuse me. As far as why Teddy did not have Taker DQed, that wouldn't have achieved his goal of taking the belt off of Taker and putting it on Punk since the title wouldn't have changed hands that way. I thought the booking of the match was fine. Punk losing made sense, you want the champ to go into the PPV looking strong, especially since it looks like Taker is probably going to drop the belt via someone else being pinned. If Punk wins by pinning another guy at the PPV besides Taker, the guy he cant seem to beat without tons of cheating, he looks more heelish. I was actually more confused by the booking of the ReyTista vs. Y2Kane match. You would think going into a PPV centered around a huge interbrand tag match you wouldnt want the captains of the team losing to a couple guys who arent even going to be in the match. Not to mention Rey or Batista losing a tag match via miscommunication wouldn't have hurt them and would have helped further work towards their inevitable feud...but whatever. |
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 25, 2009 5:47:43 GMT -5
I've always liked the ending of Rock v Austin at Wrestlemania 19. The repeated Rock Bottoms, and Austin kicking out. Great drama. You know, me too. It was a great way for Austin to go out. He went down fighting and simply didn't have enough in him to hang with the Rock anymore. It reminded me a bit of his loss to Bret Hart at Mania, which was what really put him on the map in the first place. Come to think of it, that is another match which has one of my favorite endings of all time. |
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 25, 2009 5:10:13 GMT -5
To be fair though, aside from his WWE run Steiner has always been a tremendous wrestler. Anyway, I have always been a Booker fan, I will be the first to admit that his TNA run, aside from his promos, backstage segments and character, was pretty bad. Matchwise, anyway. I still find him to be entertaining though so if he upped his game to come back to WWE he is always a good hand to have around. In TNA it just seemed like he was going through the motions during matches. Probably because he wasn't happy with his push. Not that I making excuses for him or agree with it at all. Steiner's WWE and TNA runs are disappointing. Personally, I prefer-Big Poppa Pump Scott Steiner. Think about it. All Pre-Big Poppa Pump. Scott Steiner vs. Kurt Angle. Scott Steiner vs. Ken Shamrock. Scott Steiner vs. Chris Benoit. Scott Steiner vs. Chris Benoit. Scott Steiner vs. Dean Malenko. Scott Steiner vs. Lance Storm. All those pre-BPP matches would have been awesome. Once he became BPP, he changed his style so much... and now, he can't wrestle as he once could. Booker T has deteriorated THAT much in comparison. I agree that he was much better before he got roided out, but he is still pretty good. Ive seen him put on some good matches in TNA. Especially when you consider the guy is almost 50 and started his pro wrestling career at age 24! |
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 25, 2009 5:06:48 GMT -5
The fact that he he had a themesong with a female voice made him stand out. So give him the waterproof blond version back I liked the old version but his current one suits him tons better. Also, not to be sexist but a guy coming out to a song with female vocals doesn't exactly make him seem tough. His old theme was outdated. As other said, it was good for a heel but not so much for a face. I think he has one of the best WWE themes right now and I have never even liked Story of the Year. |
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 25, 2009 4:58:19 GMT -5
Really cant think of a better finish to a great match than Shelton springboarding into the Sweet Chin Music from Hell in his match vs. HBK during the Gold Rush Tournament.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 25, 2009 3:49:33 GMT -5
Too soon to say he sucks? I seem to remember people writing off Braden Walker pretty quickly. Even though he was working a match with Estrada, who was always flat out awful in the ring. Definitely no Matt Hardy.
I haven't seen this guy wrestle yet, but I can easily counter the argument that he wouldn't have been in developmental for 4 years if he sucked by saying he wouldn't have been there so long if he was good. He would have been called up by now. As far as saying that they wouldn't team him up with Vickie if he stunk it could just as easily be a case of them teaming him with her because he isnt good enough to draw any heat on his own.
If the guy ends up flopping they can easily throw someone else with Vickie. She wont lose any heat from him stinking, and could easily drop him like a bad habit and move on.
I guess I will need to check out some of this guys matches before giving a definite opinion though.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 25, 2009 3:31:04 GMT -5
I doubt he would have retired. We are talking about a guy who essentially killed himself for the business. Wrestling was all Benoit knew.
He would still be an active wrestler. That much is assured. Eventually he would have transitioned into a road agent position. He wouldnt have left WWE unless they forced him to, and he was the type of guy, like Finlay, Steamboat or Double A, that WWE would have wanted working as an agent training new guys and laying out matches. Especially seeing as he was universally respected and liked.
At any rate, unless he got another bad injury like what happened with his neck, he would still be wrestling. I also believe that WWE would have turned him heel at some point. Probably during his planned ECW Title run to help put over Punk.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 25, 2009 1:55:45 GMT -5
I figured when the F got dropped they would. Its a bit baffling that they haven't yet.
I would welcome a modernization of the classic logo. Just sleek it out a bit ala the UFC logo.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 25, 2009 1:43:38 GMT -5
Booker's entire TNA run was so mediocre that I don't see what he has to offer TNA at this point. Anything he can do as a face, MVP can do better. Anything he can do as heel can be done better by meriod wrestlers. Its pretty sad when Steiner's matches start looking better than yours. To be fair though, aside from his WWE run Steiner has always been a tremendous wrestler. Anyway, I have always been a Booker fan, I will be the first to admit that his TNA run, aside from his promos, backstage segments and character, was pretty bad. Matchwise, anyway. I still find him to be entertaining though so if he upped his game to come back to WWE he is always a good hand to have around. In TNA it just seemed like he was going through the motions during matches. Probably because he wasn't happy with his push. Not that I making excuses for him or agree with it at all. |
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 25, 2009 0:50:05 GMT -5
Imagine if some new guy debuts and attacks someone like Undertaker right away and takes him out [Mankind comes to mind] they would be huge instantly. The Great Khali I am aware. Khali sucks though. He also only got that push because he is a huge guy. They need to give a push like that to someone with a future in the business who will be able to draw money, such as they did with Mankind or Kane. Khali doesn't have one and cant. |
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 25, 2009 0:42:00 GMT -5
So Creative breaks up The Colons FOR NO REASON other then a blowoff match on Raw which brought so much heat you could hear the slot machines at Mohegan Sun. Now they have nothing for him. Are they serious?!?! Do your god damn job and make the product better! Because the future of this business depends on Carlito. I say just turn him upside down and sweep the floors. Or bring Doink back and have Sideshow Carly. So what exactly is your argument here? Carlito isn't currently a main event talent so WWE should just say screw it and not give him anything to do? Perhaps he could be built into a main event level talent with the right booking and angles behind him. When John Cena or Deacon Batista were first around you could have said this same sentence. Hell, when Batista was just Evolutions muscle, before his big push, most people didn't like him nor see any huge future main event run or compelling angles or character for him. Thinking like that is just backwards as hell. Main Eventers dont just instantly happen. Its called character development, growth, and establishing a guy as someone to take notice of. You build them from the ground up. You nuture them and watch them grow. You dont just add water and get an instant Batista or CM Punk. |
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 24, 2009 19:22:40 GMT -5
When Christian put Tommy dreamer through the table when they signed the championship match contract? Probably, which was after all all of about three or four months ago at the most. Honestly, am I alone in finding table spots incredibly boring? You see one, and short of something crazy on top of it that's pretty much all there is to see. At least its something actually happening. As opposed to say, a Hell in the Cell match featuring no actual use of the Cell. Talk about a pointless gimmick that adds nothing to the match aside from making it harder for the live crowd to see whats going on. Table spots are like any other spot. They can be exciting or totally useless. Its all in the execution. |
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 24, 2009 19:13:45 GMT -5
And TNA won't misuse him? Maybe they will, maybe they wont but so far they are doing a good job with him. Guaranteed he is getting a better push right now than anything WWE would have done with him. This is the same place that begged Carlito to sign a new contract when he wanted to leave, and then told him they didn't have anything for him to do. |
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 24, 2009 18:58:31 GMT -5
Well, I am glad that the style HHH enjoys as well as as the relationships wrestlers have with his friends are factors into what wrestlers get pushed in WWE, rather than their talent level. Now I know why people always say HHH has a great mind for the business! As far as people making names for themselves so they can be injured half the time, whats wrong with giving a guy a shot to make a name for himself? Just because a guy has been injured before doesn't mean WWE shouldn't try to sign him and push him. Batista got injured like three times during his WWE run before they gave him any sort of real push. WWE gave London and Kendricks chances but having fun & smoking pot was more important to them. WWE takes brain issues serious thanks to Chris Benoit that why Nigel wasn't signed. More like neither of them cared for WWEs booking policies. They never saw a push in it for them so they didn't feel the need to cater to the WWE. Which I agree with. Neither did RVD which is why he isn't there anymore, even though they could desperately use him right now. As far as Nigel is concerned, I am glad he is in TNA and not WWE. WWE would just misuse him. |
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 23, 2009 21:23:12 GMT -5
A year.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 23, 2009 21:22:18 GMT -5
 I can understand them wanting to make money & create various rings & multiple figures...but why the hell are they making this?? It was a horrible idea when created & now it has a freaking toy? What's next? Kennel In the Cell Ring for the Classic Superstars Series? Considering its action figures...I actually think its pretty cool. Inferno matches always suck but in video game form I think they can be cool. |
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 23, 2009 21:11:42 GMT -5
I will one up you: draft him to RAW and give him a random match with HHH. :]
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 23, 2009 21:05:24 GMT -5
Paul London was an HBK student, and we all see where that got him. ;D Kendrick as well. I think Danielson takes wrestling a little more seriously than those 2 and wrestles a style that Triple H will like where London and Kendrick has a style that he probably didn't care for. Well, I am glad that the style HHH enjoys as well as as the relationships wrestlers have with his friends are factors into what wrestlers get pushed in WWE, rather than their talent level. Now I know why people always say HHH has a great mind for the business! As far as people making names for themselves so they can be injured half the time, whats wrong with giving a guy a shot to make a name for himself? Just because a guy has been injured before doesn't mean WWE shouldn't try to sign him and push him. Batista got injured like three times during his WWE run before they gave him any sort of real push. |
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 23, 2009 19:43:31 GMT -5
If Triple H did like Punk, it'd probably just be due to the fact that Punk had the endorsement of guys Triple H idolized such as Harley Race and Ricky Steamboat. Well, Danielson was trained by his best friend and has the love of two of his favorites in Steamboat and Regal. I'd wager he'd be all for given Bryan a good shot at everything. Paul London was an HBK student, and we all see where that got him. ;D Kendrick as well. |
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 23, 2009 19:40:11 GMT -5
Give me short bursts of greatness and massive overness over modest consistency. I would agree there. Plus, they both left of their own accord. They could have stuck around for years getting stale like HHH if they really desired to. Both of them reinvented their characters more times in the short while they wrestled in WWF and E than HHH has in the past ten years. |
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