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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 23, 2009 18:28:18 GMT -5
HBK, Angle, or Jericho if you ask me. If HHH had kept year 2000 form he could be considered, but he has stunk for a long while now. Too bad Eddie cashed out halfway through, because he was well on his way to making a claim for that title. I would consider Undertaker but if I added up time wrestled vs. time injured for him he probably only wrestled half the decade.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 23, 2009 18:23:51 GMT -5
I hate that phrase.
Its your f***ing job to come up with something for these guys to do. It says CREATIVE IN YOUR JOB TITLE.
BE CREATIVE.
Imagine a television writer telling actors on a show that. Only in wrestling.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 23, 2009 18:18:26 GMT -5
I cant wait to watch AmDrag debut on ECW, make a name for himself and then be drafted to RAW so he can team with Hornswoggle and get squashed by a few midcard heels, then is confined to having matches on Superstars every few weeks. Yep, because CM Punk is sure having a rough time making a name for himself in the WWE. Punk is very obviously the exception to the rule. There is no other new guy that debuted in recent memory and got such a push right away. He was lucky debuting in ECW and getting an instant push. The guy went undefeated for months and months there as a face. He was always one of the top ECW guys pretty much from the start until he left, and then as soon as he left he was given the WORLD TITLE. He basically got a Kurt Angle or Lesnar type push, won a World Title almost within a year of debuting. Using him as an example is pointing to a uy that won the lottery and saying SEE DREAMS CAN COME TRUE! If WWE pushed other new guys like they pushed Punk they could be making other new stars. Imagine if some new guy debuts and attacks someone like Undertaker right away and takes him out [Mankind comes to mind] they would be huge instantly.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 23, 2009 6:53:35 GMT -5
I always remember this match, it was simply awesome.
Plus I LOVED their feud, because they were two of my favorite wrestlers I always wanted to see tear it up in the ring. It would be like if HBK and Christian feuded today and had a Ladder Match on ECW or something!
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 23, 2009 6:48:11 GMT -5
does't Jeff hardy's "Charismatic Enigma" nickname come from TNA? Or am I just making s*** up again? Nope, they started calling him that in TNA.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 23, 2009 6:40:57 GMT -5
I actually loved WCWs huge roster. It just made them feel more legit to me to have so many jobbers and lower midcarders that would only get wins on the lesser shows but got creamed anytime they popped up on the big ones.
To me, it just helped to add to that REAL SPORT feel WCW always had [up until it became WWF lite]. The main reason I preferred WCW to WWF at the time. Watching Nitro felt like watching Monday Night Football.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 23, 2009 6:36:22 GMT -5
WWE Title:
Vince. He is entertaining and all, but he shouldn't be holding any titles.
Slaughter. Way too late, and he looked like an out of shape old man when he returned so even as a kid I couldn't take him seriously.
JBL. Great promo guy but he puts me to sleep in the ring. His title match vs. John Cena at WM 21 was the worst Wrestlemania Title match ever IMO.
WHC:
Khali by a mile. The man just cannot wrestle. Terrible at selling, terrible at executing moves. Just bleh.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 23, 2009 6:19:55 GMT -5
They could easily do this. The man can actually wrestle. So he could make it work in the ring.
All they would have to do is slowly transition him into being able to be taken seriously in the ring. Let him keep the goofy character. I wouldn't change that...just because someone is a great wrestler doesn't mean they have to develop a serious attitude as well. If it worked for Kurt Angle or Mick Foley it could work for him.
In fact, at this point I would say its the only way to go with his character, unless both he and WWE are content with keeping him a comedy jobber for the rest of his career...which may very well happen. I would like him to try something new, though.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 23, 2009 6:12:46 GMT -5
Probably my favorite feud ever.
In fact, the Mankind character is what got me back into watching WWF after taking a hiatus for a good while during the mostly awful period right before it.
I turned on RAW randomly and saw Mankind with his bizarre in ring style and those creepy, way out there promos. I was immediately interested and the following feud hooked me right back in. I wish the WWE of today had more weird, complex characters like him and less bland tattooed frat looking guys with short hair.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 23, 2009 5:13:54 GMT -5
Kinda reminds me of when HBK thought those poop brown tights were a good idea. Im pretty sure they put them in a video game to. Damn those brown tights were bad. Only Mankind has been able to pull that off Yeah, they were in HCTP. I remember a lot of bitching because they couldn't have chosen a worse attire to emulate in game form. Luckily, you could unlock the classic HBK tights so it wasn't too bad.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 23, 2009 3:12:12 GMT -5
I like how people always cite the Wellness Policy as great because it looks out for the health of the wrestlers.
Now in this thread we have people criticizing Shad because other guys have worked through sickness or pain that they probably shouldn't have in the interest of their health.
Maybe Shad was pulling some BS here, although I cant see why he would lie about it...and if WWE told him he had to go out there, flu or no, would Shad have the stroke to just refuse? Nah. If WWE did that though, they would look extremely hypocritical.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 23, 2009 3:06:40 GMT -5
Not entirely true.
Kelly has the K2, they have called it before. Gail Kim has that jawbreaker thing with her foot, that has the stupid name of Eat Defeat...and I know they called it at least once because I laughed at how stupid the name was.
Melina has the legdrop split thing, and that Code Red move. I cant remember if they have called either move by any names though. Maryse has the Snap DDT they call the French Kiss.
On SD, Nattie, when she wrestles has the Sharpshooter of course. Beth has the Glam Slam. McCool has the Faith Breaker. All of those moves have been established and called many times. Mickie has her sloppy DDT...I am not sure why its never called by its name, but it has a stupid name anyway so who cares.
Pretty much the only women who dont really have named or established finishers are the Marias and Laylas who are jobbers anyway.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 23, 2009 2:55:13 GMT -5
So Basicially, he wasn't signed becaused the WWE didn't want another Ken Anderson on their hands? Right. Considering guys like Undertaker, Edge, and Batista are known for staying injury free. Anyway, I am glad Nigel went to TNA and surprise surprise, he is immediately made to look like a big threat and thrown into a feud with Kurt Angle. You think WWE would have let him debut by attacking John Cena or Undertaker? Nah, because he isn't 7 feet tall. I cant wait to watch AmDrag debut on ECW, make a name for himself and then be drafted to RAW so he can team with Hornswoggle and get squashed by a few midcard heels, then is confined to having matches on Superstars every few weeks.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 22, 2009 22:08:09 GMT -5
I dont have the game yet but a lot of these RTWM complaints regarding the reversals and difficulty are giving me flashbacks to playing WWF No Mercy championship mode on hard. ;D
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 22, 2009 21:16:15 GMT -5
Kinda reminds me of when HBK thought those poop brown tights were a good idea.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 22, 2009 0:27:55 GMT -5
Meh. I mean, it was funny, but more like "funny but who cares?" All those jokes they've made about wrestling have been done before. I get it! Wrestling's like a soap opera. Amateur wrestling is a lot different from pro wrestling and looks very gay. And, wrestling fans are stereotypically rednecks who think it's real. These jokes have been done before. There's a whole layer of wrestling that can be satirized and commented on. I mean, you have the steroids, painkillers, the early deaths, injuries, grueling schedule, popularity of a wrestling getting to his or her head, Vince McMahon, etc. It basically could have been a funny version of "The Wrestler." Instead, they decided to do something an 1980s sitcom would have done. Now, I did laugh as it was a well put together episode. And, there were some good jokes, like Kenny's death, the wrestling coach ironically ending up getting hired by Vince after trying to take it down, and everyone leaving when the boys finally start fighting. But, it could have been so much better. Also, why do people still do the "fans who think it's real" jokes? It's pretty much common knowledge by now that everyone knows it's fake. The only fans who still think it's real are kids. Hell, there was an Academy Award nominated movie about wrestling that said it was fake! Enough with this s***! So a joke about hick wrestling fans that think its real is funny but a video of a hick yelling ITS STILL REAL TO ME DAMMIT is hilarious enough to be referencing on message boards five years after the fact? I haven't seen the episode yet but I like reading people criticizing jokes they ran into the ground. Matt and Trey arent IWC vanguards.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 22, 2009 0:22:54 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind it, but if it happens it will be the biggest shocker in WWE in a long while.
I would bet a copious amount of money against the chance that WWEs biggest star is going to suddenly be exclusive to a show that gets 1.8 ratings. On a channel that is failing.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 22, 2009 0:17:39 GMT -5
Undertaker. I wouldn't even talk to the man. Just glare at him and start taping my fists. Then, he'd start taping his fists. After a couple hours, we'd each have hands that look like giant beach balls made of tape. My dad has a picture of him he took with Crush [RIP] and Taker on both sides of him. Which was taken in a strip club!
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 22, 2009 0:02:09 GMT -5
I agree with the verifiably fraudulent sharp object above me that Cody was certainly helped out by the teaming with Holly. Deuce 'n' Domino were pretty bad. The Major Brothers were poorly booked, but at least it eventually allowed us to get Woo Woo Woo Clap It Up Bro! 1-2-3 Kid and Bob Holly were a 1-day reign. Men on a Mission held the title for 2 days in a feud with the Quebecers. The Godwinns had two reigns of 2 and 7 days, respectively. Rico and Rikishi Road Warrior Animal and German Serial Man-Rapist simply because it bastardizes the name LoD. CM Punk and Kofi Kingston was a colossal waste of time recently. But I think the big winner is William Regal and Eugene. Seriously, you can't tell me that booking a (using the term as a pejorative only in the fake wrestler character sense) Retard as a champion can be in any way a positive. Let alone that they feuded with Sylvan and the Con-man, and they lost them at a live event when an injured Eugene was replaced by Coach. Oh - and they won them in a match also involving the team of Tajiri and Rhyno. Say wha? I totally even forgot they ever won the titles so I would agree with that! They could have done something good with that team but it amounted to nothing.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 21, 2009 23:57:07 GMT -5
Reminds me of a Steve Corino interview I watched where he related a story of how he got berated after a dark match because he played up to the crowd.
Since, you know, you dont want to get that live crowd engaged. It wouldn't translate well to TV!
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