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Post by Mozenrath on May 2, 2024 22:31:34 GMT -5
Okada in TNA is up there, though excursions are sort of unusual cases. Given the wrestler is there to learn, and is not expected to remain with the company, they don't usually get handed the world on a silver platter. Still, it was egregious enough to annoy NJPW, as was their use of SANADA (even if he got it way better than Okada did), and damaged the relationship between the companies for quite some time, along with other perceived disrespect. SANADA wasn't in NJPW when he was in TNA, he was in Wrestle-1. Plus, it was after TNA's & NJPW's relationship had soured. Ah, right, was Muta that they pissed off with that one. Been a bit.
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Post by Mozenrath on May 1, 2024 21:47:20 GMT -5
It's difficult for the performers to have no feedback, and it's also difficult from a practicality perspective for "how do we not make the live crowd feel like they got screwed here?"
It's not that it cannot be done, it's basically what Empty Arena matches are, for example, and those have been around for decades in various forms, but you really need a premise that justifies it, or you're doing it just to do it.
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Post by Mozenrath on May 1, 2024 21:40:21 GMT -5
Probably, yeah. The issue with doing this with Sting, for instance, is that there'd be an expectation of him facing the Bucks again, etc.
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Post by Mozenrath on May 1, 2024 21:38:53 GMT -5
Generally, there's not a lot of reason to do it, but I could see it happening for storyline reasons, sure, like him beating Orton if someone interfered, either on his behalf or to spite Orton, or whoever.
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Post by Mozenrath on May 1, 2024 20:52:12 GMT -5
Not a movie, but a show, and more deeply flawed than outright terrible, but this fits here.
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Post by Mozenrath on May 1, 2024 20:16:54 GMT -5
And just to add with my point above, sure, you can absolutely make the case that whilst the end of 2000 to 2001 wasn't perfect, it felt like they were turning things around and people were being built and Nitro and Thunder could have kept on but under Bischoff and his consortium's ownership...what was the reason to take the risk? What was chance 1001 going to do that the first 1000 chances didn't try before? There were no more rolls of the dice, no more disgruntled WWF creative people to go after unless they wanted to deal with Bill Watts again and they couldn't even do the nWo again because they literally just did the nWo again! The wider point is goddamn I'm not looking forward to the same arguments trotted out over and over again about WCW and what happened 23 years after it died. I'd rather have my eyes forced opened and a bunch of talking heads talk about f***ing Brawl Out. Bischoff had two good ideas. Stopping house shows that they were losing their ass on, which frankly, someone should have had way before and someone would have had eventually and the beginnings of the nWo. And no matter how much you hate him, no matter the spin, they lost because it wasn’t Eric’s money, and all of WWF was Vince’s money and that is the difference. ATM Eric didn’t come from smarks or Dave, it came from Hogan, Nash, Hall…guys who knew what Vince paid and what Eric was offering. Even Jericho who hadn’t even broken in the US yet says he got paid way more than he asked for and it was easy for Eric to do because it wasn’t his money. Foley started in WWF in or around the same time Jericho started WCW. Foley got a deal for $1500 a year, not a typo!!! Jericho was getting $300K. Oh yeah, the house show thing was an issue that'd been an issue for years and years, and Eric was right to pull the plug. The issue was that WCW could not convince people to go because their cards never worked out as promised, because big names would simply ask to not be booked on them or didn't bother showing up. Hell, most of the midcard were not interested, since there was no money in them. It was a vicious cycle. It wasn't like Smoky Mountain Wrestling, where Cornette ran some shows he knew he'd only really break even on because he wanted to keep his roster paid consistently and getting reps in. That's not really something that WCW guys benefited from due to guaranteed contracts, so the house show is only as lucrative as its gates, which were dog shit because even WCW diehards knew they were a waste of your money to buy tickets to.
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Post by Mozenrath on May 1, 2024 18:42:20 GMT -5
Manny Fernandez is essentially an infamous bullshit artist who constantly makes shit up, and stolen valor is when someone presents themselves as having a military history (especially seeing combat) that did not happen. Sergeant Slaughter is sort of a grey area in that respect, with him not being a serviceman, but I am unclear on if Robert Remus has attempted to present himself as a veteran, or if it has always been the character of Sgt. Slaughter and the character alone where there's the fictitious military career.
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Post by Mozenrath on May 1, 2024 17:28:48 GMT -5
Tony offered Cornette a job before AEW opened and he said no. Wasn't that more down to that Cornette can barely leave his house? That's part of it, surely. I know he refuses to fly in virtually all circumstances.
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Post by Mozenrath on May 1, 2024 0:20:59 GMT -5
Okada in TNA is up there, though excursions are sort of unusual cases. Given the wrestler is there to learn, and is not expected to remain with the company, they don't usually get handed the world on a silver platter. Still, it was egregious enough to annoy NJPW, as was their use of SANADA (even if he got it way better than Okada did), and damaged the relationship between the companies for quite some time, along with other perceived disrespect.
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Post by Mozenrath on May 1, 2024 0:11:26 GMT -5
at the heart of it all the Rock is a guy and you aren't going to stop a guy pissing in things if he's comfortable staying where he is and nobodys around That's quite the hot take. A piss-take, if you will.
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 30, 2024 23:14:38 GMT -5
I think it depends on your expectations. Was Crush a step down? Yeah. But if you don't add him, you basically have to end the team earlier, given he was added for a reason in the first place.
It's sort of like asking if Heidenreich being a Road Warrior should have been done. The answer is, you kinda HAD to if you're going to employ Animal because what the hell else is he going to be doing?
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 30, 2024 21:37:08 GMT -5
No, Musk hasn't said that. Because he doesn't wanna piss off the nazis he wants to like him. Yeah but at least Musk didn’t get his riches from a racist regime. Oh. Sorry I’m derailing things with Musk. General point remains, don’t use serious crimes as a promotional tool. Unless you sell self defence I suppose. Elon Musk is just mad Colonel DeBeers retired.
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 30, 2024 2:19:25 GMT -5
Danhausen is rather well-known in a lot of action figure circles, understandably.
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 30, 2024 2:06:21 GMT -5
Please leave her husband at home.
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 30, 2024 1:46:47 GMT -5
I just can't muster up any real anger towards "Velma" because it's going to have zero impact, ultimately. Scooby Doo as a franchise never stays idle for long, and there will be other shows, movies, comics, games, etc, and none of this will really come back around.
It's just a bad cartoon, really, a low-rent Harley Quinn or Venture Bros, and not even especially unique in that respect. It doesn't really do anything new with any meta takes, either, since Mystery Incorporated did that well before it, and far more competently.
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 29, 2024 21:54:43 GMT -5
Eric got the one check from AEW, and I actually found his appearance fun, but like... say they did hire him way back when, and he doesn't wind up embittered: what would he even actually do?
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 29, 2024 21:34:30 GMT -5
I hope we get a first time winner this year. Rooting for DOUKI, I think.
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 29, 2024 20:55:48 GMT -5
He was easily the best of the "Clone Wars" era ROH top guys, to me. Damning with faint praise perhaps, but I like him. I think he’s incredible in the ring, especially after being at it for so long. I know he’s not exciting on the mic, but I’m not too concerned about that cuz once he’s in the ring, he’s captivating to watch. I hated the “comedy” stuff they were doing with him last year. It felt like dancing Lance storm or double ho seven Dean Malenko. At least it got him a little more over though I liked some of it, some they overdid. But yeah, he's always reminded me of Dean Malenko, so I guess that's apropos.
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 29, 2024 10:37:20 GMT -5
Roddy rules. I will not stand for the slander! He was easily the best of the "Clone Wars" era ROH top guys, to me. Damning with faint praise perhaps, but I like him.
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 29, 2024 9:56:41 GMT -5
We never saw Wilson’s face but there was a time when we saw him with his whole body with his face having shaving cream on it. We never saw his whole face. Parts of the face, yes but not the whole face. There were a few times where you could see his face through a gap in the fence. There was an interview with him I saw years ago and he looks pretty much what you imagine he looked like. Basically, yes, though he was a bit younger than some may expect. For some reason, I was always under the impression he was elderly, but he was in his 50s for the show, outside of the first season where he'd have been like 49.
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