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Post by SOR on Jan 20, 2014 12:26:54 GMT -5
She's okay at what she does, a decent Actress and plays "annoying" quite well.
The issue is we've seen the evil authority figure story line for years in wrestling circles around the world and really only Vince McMahon can pull it off in 2014.
That's what TNA really does though, rehashes old story lines with different characters.
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Post by SOR on Jan 20, 2014 12:17:19 GMT -5
But the thread starter asked "Who is the most hated in the world?" and it's pretty common knowledge that outside of America sports like baseball, basketball, American football, whilst still liked, and not nearly on a level that means that certain teams are hated. Football on the other hand, most definitely is, and you'd be hard pressed to find a team more hated than Manchester United. I don't know who the f*** Manchester United is, nor do I care. As far as "why are people posting American teams on here? Hmmm...well if I were to wager a guess, it would be because there are probably more American posters on here as opposed to people in the UK or elsewhere. I guess that's not fair? You don't know Manchester United? Not even in passing? I have to doubt that. I know the EPL airs in the States and it's really a league that the world follows. Manchester United is one of the bigger 4-5 teams in the league. No way have you never heard of them.
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Post by SOR on Jan 20, 2014 11:45:24 GMT -5
I think if they were going to drop this kind of money on a relatively big former WWE Star they should have gone with Chris Masters or John Hennigan.
Never seen MVP's appeal.
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Post by SOR on Jan 20, 2014 11:36:58 GMT -5
Worldwide you have to go with Manchester United. My Uncle was a big fan of them so I have a spot in my heart for them although I'm not really a fan. The issue in my mind isn't the team though it's the bandwagon fans who like them simply because they win all the time.
Miami Heat would be in the same category. Every fan of them internationally likes them because they win a lot so they get a lot of hate.
However in my country there is no team hated more than the South Sydney Rabbitohs (Russell Crowes Rugby Team) they haven't won anything since 1969 but their fans go around calling themselves "The pride of the league" and they have the dirtiest players known to man. My favourite team (The Sydney Roosters) have a fierce rivalry with them and last season we beat them in the final round to take the premiership from them. Horrible people those South Sydney folk.
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Post by SOR on Jan 20, 2014 11:18:13 GMT -5
This is my favourite series of films ever and I'm a massive Mel Gibson fan since he grew up here and was really the first Actor to "make it" from Australia. Is also the first Actor I really became a fan of.
1: The darkest of the series and that's why people tend to like it most. You have Riggs trying to get over some major issues but the friendship between he and Murtaugh blossoms.
2: Still quite a dark movie. Gibson chasing the bad guys down for revenge, Murtaugh doing his thing and Leo Getz is a great comedy relief character
3: Gets a lot of hate but is pretty great in my opinion. It is the first one where they amp up the comedy a lot more and move away from the darker films in the series. Probably a C+ film though.
4: One of the first major Hollywood movies to feature Jet Li and he was impressive and worked well as a bad ass. Gibson and Glover play old experienced guys very well and the cast having been together for 10+ years really click well.
So yeah, you want to buy the 4 film series. There have been rumors for many years of a Lethal Weapon 5 so if that ever comes out you want to see that as well.
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Post by SOR on Jan 20, 2014 8:54:43 GMT -5
I casually follow the Broncos and am happy to see them in a Superbowl.
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Post by SOR on Jan 20, 2014 7:30:46 GMT -5
Such charisma, lit up the screen. I am jealous that I am not half as talented as The Todd.
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Post by SOR on Jan 20, 2014 0:51:23 GMT -5
I used to think Stacy Keibler was way hot until I found out she was a gold digger with a 50,000 dollar a week lifestyle and was looking for another A List Celebrity to latch onto because she didn't want to live a modest lifestyle.
Maria as well. Used to be hot now she just attacks everyone with her indy wrestling boyfriend.
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Post by SOR on Jan 20, 2014 0:35:40 GMT -5
I don't want to get off topic but OP, What are Eddie Kingston, Kevin Steen and Homicide going to change on television? Homicide is the only one I would bring in. Steen is overweight and according to Jim Cornette has the attitude of a local flea market indy wrestler and Eddie Kingston's gimmick is "I yell at everyone really loudly and used to be an indy darling!!" Those guys aren't going to change things on TV. TNA needs intriguing characters (Like EC3, Sam Shaw, Rockstar Spud etc) rather then a bunch of indy darlings who bring nothing to the table except "We wrestle good" As for Dreamer, I'm not really impressed by his "wrestling mind" and probably would have gone with someone else but he could be a great agent for all I know. You really think that what Steen and Kingston are? besides I watching Raw this passed week and the most over guy in the WWE right now is the guy who "wrestles good" and was the biggest indie Darling who is insanely over. You think those examples are what you call something that will draw? TNA needs fresh guy faces and why wouldn't you go for the best of the indies when guys like Punk and Bryan who where the same thing had a great deal of success and do is AJ who again on of the best. Since TNA can't afford big name talent and doesn't have a devolopement. They need to do this to find there new big time player and they how you find them is giving the best there moment to shine on a bigger stage. I think I had this debate with you elsewhere a few days ago. If Daniel Bryan was this big money making draw who drew thousands and thousands of fans in and everyone wanted to see him he'd be on top of the WWE. He isn't, Randy Orton and John Cena are. Those are your real draws unless you want to say that WWE's professionally trained people are all wrong and you are correct. Now Daniel Bryan is over to an extent but that's not because he was an ROH guy or a good wrestler it's because WWE made him popular with things like his look, his catch phrase etc. TNA don't have 60,000-70,000 dollars a year on a 3-4 year deal to throw into someone who might become a main eventer for them. I singled out those guys because they're who OP...mentioned? I mean, it's right there in the original post. Since you're going to fight for these guys let me tell you why they aren't TV worthy. Eddie Kingston: He's an overweight dude and is very very generic looking. He's an okay wrestler but his promo work leaves A LOT to be imagined and that's coming from a guy who loved that feud between he and Hero many years ago. His gimmick is that he yells and can wrestle good. That wouldn't translate well on TV. TNA has a roster filled with guys who can wrestle well they need more guys who can be entertaining and can draw money with your casual viewer. Eddie Kingston running around yelling with his odd accent won't do that. He would be another poor signing for TNA. Homicide: I was unaware he was 37 I would probably throw him in a tag team or a stable but he obviously wasn't going to be a big time star for TNA ever. I feel he's a solid Lower Midcard guy and people would remember him if they are TNA loyalists Kevin Steen: This is one of the first names that comes up always. Kevin Steen is about 50-60 pounds overweight and everyone from former ROH employees to Jim Cornette says he has a poor attitude. He is one of those guys who just wants to have a good match and that's it. He clearly does not care if he is marketable or even in shape. He is a poor choice and people only suggest him because it's cool to like him because nobody outside of the IWC does. Signing all these high end independent guys is not what TNA needs. They need to scour the obscure indies and sign people from there. Instead of signing a guy who's going to cost them 50-60k a year why not sign a guy who is going to cost them 20? And again, if guys like Kevin Steen and Eddie Kingston were big time draws then ROH would be on the top of the wrestling world. $20k? Are you serious? That's below the poverty line. Fast food joints pay better for fulltime than that. If you're a 25 year old wannabe wrestler and TNA comes knocking with a 20-30k a year contract you aren't going to take it? You take into account that these guys can go and work a weekend of independents and probably walk away with 500 bucks tax free. More if they're willing to travel. It's not a high end life but if I were in charge of the finances over at TNA I'd much rather a lesser known independent guy making 20-30k a year then a guy like Kevin Steen who is making 75k a year.
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Post by SOR on Jan 19, 2014 21:50:20 GMT -5
Looks like they're selling out everywhere they go nowadays. Is that even an arena? It looks like a big hall.
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Post by SOR on Jan 19, 2014 21:44:41 GMT -5
Tenay isn't leaving. You may have someone join them as a 3 man team but Tenay is a TNA loyalist and they're loyal to him. Been there since day 1.
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Post by SOR on Jan 19, 2014 21:37:59 GMT -5
I don't want to get off topic but OP, What are Eddie Kingston, Kevin Steen and Homicide going to change on television? Homicide is the only one I would bring in. Steen is overweight and according to Jim Cornette has the attitude of a local flea market indy wrestler and Eddie Kingston's gimmick is "I yell at everyone really loudly and used to be an indy darling!!" Those guys aren't going to change things on TV. TNA needs intriguing characters (Like EC3, Sam Shaw, Rockstar Spud etc) rather then a bunch of indy darlings who bring nothing to the table except "We wrestle good" As for Dreamer, I'm not really impressed by his "wrestling mind" and probably would have gone with someone else but he could be a great agent for all I know. Why are you singling out those guys? Dreamer's promotion has a variety of wrestlers there besides Steen, Kingston, and Homicide. Homicide is in the twilight of career with his history of injuries catching up with him. I don't see him wrestling past this Summer. Steen and Kingston bring more to the table than just wrestling good (which some how you made into an insult). Kingston when he's on can bring passion in the ring and on promos. Steen is the evil bastard TNA could use since Bully Ray decided to become the emo member of the Wyatt Family. TNA needs to woe those indy talent you look down upon because they don't have the money for former WWE/WCW/ECW talent. Where you think those new guys in TNA came from? I singled out those guys because they're who OP...mentioned? I mean, it's right there in the original post. Since you're going to fight for these guys let me tell you why they aren't TV worthy. Eddie Kingston: He's an overweight dude and is very very generic looking. He's an okay wrestler but his promo work leaves A LOT to be imagined and that's coming from a guy who loved that feud between he and Hero many years ago. His gimmick is that he yells and can wrestle good. That wouldn't translate well on TV. TNA has a roster filled with guys who can wrestle well they need more guys who can be entertaining and can draw money with your casual viewer. Eddie Kingston running around yelling with his odd accent won't do that. He would be another poor signing for TNA. Homicide: I was unaware he was 37 I would probably throw him in a tag team or a stable but he obviously wasn't going to be a big time star for TNA ever. I feel he's a solid Lower Midcard guy and people would remember him if they are TNA loyalists Kevin Steen: This is one of the first names that comes up always. Kevin Steen is about 50-60 pounds overweight and everyone from former ROH employees to Jim Cornette says he has a poor attitude. He is one of those guys who just wants to have a good match and that's it. He clearly does not care if he is marketable or even in shape. He is a poor choice and people only suggest him because it's cool to like him because nobody outside of the IWC does. Signing all these high end independent guys is not what TNA needs. They need to scour the obscure indies and sign people from there. Instead of signing a guy who's going to cost them 50-60k a year why not sign a guy who is going to cost them 20? And again, if guys like Kevin Steen and Eddie Kingston were big time draws then ROH would be on the top of the wrestling world.
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Post by SOR on Jan 19, 2014 4:44:51 GMT -5
I think they did it so that ECW could get some mainstream publicity on RAW in the WWF Champion Vs ECW Champion match. WWF was huge at that point and ECW needed some publicity.
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Post by SOR on Jan 19, 2014 1:39:54 GMT -5
I think TNA should consider plugging the events more.
Have 1 time in the show where Tenay does his regular wrap but throughout a match why not have Tenay say "Ladies and Gentlemen just a reminder we'll be in X city this upcoming weekend buy tickets from x ticket prices are xyz"
Do this 2 times so people don't miss it. Plugging it after a commercial or during (Which they have done before) is silly because most people go to the bathroom, get food etc etc during the breaks. Semi regular reminders throughout the show would probably help a little bit.
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Post by SOR on Jan 18, 2014 21:15:37 GMT -5
So... the new talent coming in at Genesis was Davey/Eddie and that's it? Also the debut is a backstage segment? WTF Yeah, I was expecting 4-5 debuts on this event. Kind of an influx of new talent for TNA's rebirth or whatever they seem to be going for.
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Post by SOR on Jan 18, 2014 21:11:04 GMT -5
Actually the people saying Radio Ad's they don't usually work unless it's a 5-10 minute interview with a star that people recognize. This is what Hulk Hogan was good for because he'd be able to do that and people would say "Wow, Hulk Hogan is in town. Lets go and see him" Newspaper Advertisements are the way to go. With those you can hook someone into buying a ticket by promoting certain people and showing them a visual. For example, you could promote Christy Hemme and mention the fact she's a former Playboy Model. Obviously that hooks your 18+ demographic. You put Magnus on your event advertisement to try and hook the women in. You promote Bully Ray to try and hook the casual WWE fan or old wrestling fan and you promote Samoa Joe to hook your existing TNA fan. With that you're attempting to hook everyone in with what makes them marketable (Their looks) instead of simply rattling off a bunch of names that people don't recognize. You can also cut out a newspaper advertisement and put it in your bag and it would have every detail on it. With a radio advertisement you may remember bits and pieces but then you have to Google TNA Wrestling and find out when it is etc etc. Newspaper articles/advertisements are much better. I say this as someone who was in the industry, the target demographic don't read newspapers anymore, so it's not likely that they'd ever see it. They don't listen to the radio as much, but there's a better chance buying an ad on a sports talk radio station than there is buying a print ad. Most ideally would be a billboard or something of that nature, but that's not always an option. They don't read it online or anything like that? It could be a cultural difference but over here younger people will either buy a newspaper or have a subscription to read it online. The States doesn't do that?
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Post by SOR on Jan 18, 2014 21:08:50 GMT -5
I don't want to get off topic but OP, What are Eddie Kingston, Kevin Steen and Homicide going to change on television? Homicide is the only one I would bring in. Steen is overweight and according to Jim Cornette has the attitude of a local flea market indy wrestler and Eddie Kingston's gimmick is "I yell at everyone really loudly and used to be an indy darling!!"
Those guys aren't going to change things on TV. TNA needs intriguing characters (Like EC3, Sam Shaw, Rockstar Spud etc) rather then a bunch of indy darlings who bring nothing to the table except "We wrestle good"
As for Dreamer, I'm not really impressed by his "wrestling mind" and probably would have gone with someone else but he could be a great agent for all I know.
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Post by SOR on Jan 18, 2014 21:00:00 GMT -5
Actually the people saying Radio Ad's they don't usually work unless it's a 5-10 minute interview with a star that people recognize. This is what Hulk Hogan was good for because he'd be able to do that and people would say "Wow, Hulk Hogan is in town. Lets go and see him"
Newspaper Advertisements are the way to go. With those you can hook someone into buying a ticket by promoting certain people and showing them a visual. For example, you could promote Christy Hemme and mention the fact she's a former Playboy Model. Obviously that hooks your 18+ demographic. You put Magnus on your event advertisement to try and hook the women in. You promote Bully Ray to try and hook the casual WWE fan or old wrestling fan and you promote Samoa Joe to hook your existing TNA fan.
With that you're attempting to hook everyone in with what makes them marketable (Their looks) instead of simply rattling off a bunch of names that people don't recognize. You can also cut out a newspaper advertisement and put it in your bag and it would have every detail on it. With a radio advertisement you may remember bits and pieces but then you have to Google TNA Wrestling and find out when it is etc etc. Newspaper articles/advertisements are much better.
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Post by SOR on Jan 18, 2014 10:42:41 GMT -5
I don't think Dave Prazak is really in a position to make fun of anyones crowds.
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Post by SOR on Jan 18, 2014 10:29:39 GMT -5
Came in expecting Final Fantasy 8 to be on the list (I like it but most hate it)
Never played any of these ones I don't believe.
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