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Post by bmfjules on Nov 10, 2019 16:09:53 GMT -5
If you do anything that would make 1983 Bill Watts mad 2019 Cornette will hate you forever.
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Post by bmfjules on Nov 9, 2019 21:30:13 GMT -5
Assuming I have unlimited money to spend like a drunken naval commander, I'm stealing the Rock from Hollywood, paying Austin stupid money as well, ditto for CM Punk and any other person with name value good enough to be carried through a smoke and mirrors match, and use them as leverage for a real TV deal, then I'm buying up ROH, NWA, and MLW to fill my mid card and tag divisions and getting working agreements with AAA and NJPW.
I'd book Rock in a feud to elevate Jacob Fatu, have Austin mentor and elevate the Von Erich boys and take ol' Mance Warner under his wing as well, and Punk could basically work with anyone. I'd lose hundreds of millions the first few years because of the insane money I spent to get Austin and Rock and book big buildings, but I'm assuming here I'm Jeff Bezos rich and with that kind of money and say five years to get established I'll be breathing down Vince's neck soon enough.
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Post by bmfjules on Nov 6, 2019 11:53:15 GMT -5
HEY, THAT'S MY PAINTING MAN!
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Post by bmfjules on Nov 4, 2019 22:54:39 GMT -5
Trips looks like they found a grizzled fisherman and told him wear a suit Trips right now reminds me of a cross between Xavier and Wolverine and NXT are his X-Men....
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Post by bmfjules on Nov 3, 2019 23:16:20 GMT -5
If Hugo's story about Vince cutting the feed is the real story, then my main takeaway is WTF was Vince thinking?
It's already morally questionable, to put it nicely, to get into bed with a Government that has the civil rights and safety (aka murder/torture etc) issues surrounding them, so with that in mind, Vince decides it is a good time to play some petty games with the feed over money?
This isn't Jim Crockett or Ted Turner you're dicking around with here FFS.
He literally risked the lives of everyone there if this report is to be believed. Holy shit.
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Post by bmfjules on Nov 3, 2019 20:50:16 GMT -5
I am asking this question in kayfabe.
If I am wrestling OC, since he only fights back when under duress, if I just politely asked him lay down so I could pin him, and then we could both just get out of there, would his character go for it? Path of least resistance and all that...
Or if I simply go for an early roll up, will he bother to kick out etc?
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Post by bmfjules on Nov 3, 2019 20:40:12 GMT -5
If somebody can offer a fresh take on Cornette that I haven't read in the previous 552 threads on him in the past week, I'll give them a shiny penny. "He's definitely never murdered anyone" He has admitted to one legit attempt though. Admission in the first 10 seconds of the video. www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s5GC71uuyM
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Post by bmfjules on Nov 1, 2019 16:09:41 GMT -5
A lot of us care, it's just that a lot of the spokespeople for our cause who suck up all the social media attention, do more harm than good for the cause by making it an absolute "old school": vs everything else.
The fact that action comedies exist doesn't mean people aren't going to go see a serious drama etc...
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Post by bmfjules on Nov 1, 2019 16:04:17 GMT -5
This is only related in that it is Cornette related and happening right now on Twitter at the same as this.
But Corny and Austin Aries are going at it in a series of barbs that is basically the Ali/Frazier of miserable pricks.
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Post by bmfjules on Oct 30, 2019 14:53:49 GMT -5
Seth Rollins gave Matt Taven advice on how to be the face of your company. I can do one better, well, worse actually... Seth Rollins designs Matt Taven's T-shirts. Too far.
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Post by bmfjules on Oct 29, 2019 12:08:34 GMT -5
Cesaro and Heyman could have worked... (Hey, don't scroll down already! Really!) Cesaro was starting to really get over at the time as a babyface while still a heel, so if they would have kept his push strong, but don't have him do anything overly dastardly, and build up tension slowly over a six month period with him and Paul E. and then either he refuses to take part in some heelish beatdown or Heyman finally just cuts him loose since he's turning into too much of a goody-goody and sicks Brock on him, then you have a full babyface turn with a strongly pushed Cesaro working with Punk and eventually Lesnar... Maybe even bring up Hero (can't remember if he was in NXT at that point anymore or in between stints) and do the Kings of Wrestling against the Beast/Best in the World etc...
Just saying it could have worked, but WWE gon' WWE.
Your timeline is a little wonky there - Punk was already gone by that point. Well damn that's right, it all made sense in my head.
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Post by bmfjules on Oct 29, 2019 11:53:40 GMT -5
Paul Heyman and Curtis Axel. It wasn't the best to start off with, but after that Triple H promo, poor Axel didn't stand a chance. also Paul Heyman and Cesaro. Cesaor did fit with The Real Americans. But Cesaro is posh, educated, a man of class. Nothing alike with the Sleazy, Underhanded and violence advocator that is Heyman. Fact that he played third fiddle to Lesnar didn't help too. Cesaro and Heyman could have worked... (Hey, don't scroll down already! Really!)
Cesaro was starting to really get over at the time as a babyface while still a heel, so if they would have kept his push strong, but don't have him do anything overly dastardly, and build up tension slowly over a six month period with him and Paul E. and then either he refuses to take part in some heelish beatdown or Heyman finally just cuts him loose since he's turning into too much of a goody-goody and sicks Brock on him, then you have a full babyface turn with a strongly pushed Cesaro working with Punk and eventually Lesnar... Maybe even bring up Hero (can't remember if he was in NXT at that point anymore or in between stints) and do the Kings of Wrestling against the Beast/Best in the World etc...
Just saying it could have worked, but WWE gon' WWE.
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Post by bmfjules on Oct 27, 2019 18:51:10 GMT -5
"I AM HERE TO KICK ASS, AND MASTER TITTIES, AND I AM ALL OUT OF KICK-ASS!"
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Post by bmfjules on Oct 27, 2019 15:11:56 GMT -5
His squash matches are go-to's for me on youtube or the network. Whether early WCW, the first WWF run, or that short second WCW run, they are always great. In the late 90s is when his in-ring limitations became more noticeable because of how he was being used. I love Sid in short matches where he kills people. It's when WWF or WCW tried to put him in those regular length PPV matches that things went haywire. That said, HBK managed to pull good to great matches out of him, but that's because we're talking prime HBK for pete's sake.
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Post by bmfjules on Oct 25, 2019 8:48:48 GMT -5
I imagine Vince read Dolph's tweet and let out a hearty laugh.
"Ah that's great Dolph, still no singles push for you though, ever, not even on NXT. Btw your contact is extended by 10 years now."
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Post by bmfjules on Oct 21, 2019 18:25:47 GMT -5
The episode of Memphis wrestling that had the empty arena match with Lawlwer and Funk.
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Post by bmfjules on Oct 20, 2019 14:09:50 GMT -5
I always looked at it as a very similar change from Dennis to Stan as it was going from Arn and Ole to Tully and Arn.
In both cases, each team got more athletic and flashy (in a technical, old school way) with the second incarnation. Ole and Dennis were the heavies and heat-getting machines, although Ole Anderson is of course in a whole nother' league when it comes to promos, but the Midnights had Cornette so they didn't need anymore mouth after that.
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Post by bmfjules on Oct 20, 2019 0:24:22 GMT -5
All of Wrestling Society X. It is the most glorious garbage. Sensory overload if you watch too much in a row though. I mouthed exlodey sounds and shook my monitor violently while reading this just to reminisce.
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Post by bmfjules on Oct 18, 2019 17:44:56 GMT -5
The video packages are awesome, the wrestling is awesome, but one thing I need way more of so far is.
Promos.
Of the three shows I've watched so far, it's been a very wrestling heavy show, and that's fine for me. I know the characters, and the action is good. I'll keep watching as long as they're on the air, but to grow they need to lure in the folks who are not like me.
They don't need to become WWE and have 20 minute talking segments open up every show, but for instance, Jon Moxley is not being used anywhere near to where he should be for his potential/proven ability on the mic.
He should have delivered the "Paul Heyman" style us against the world promo on the very first week IMO. The casual viewer still doesn't know who Kenny Omega is so let Moxley tell us with a good old fiery promo how Omega is the best in the world and he was dying to escape from WWE where he'd already done everything he could and prove himself against the best.
Also, I think Omega should be used way more sparingly... aside from Jericho and Moxley and Cody, he's the 4th most established star (established to us hardcores anyway) and I think he should be booked like Vince books Lesnar (although not nearly that extreme in terms of time off) because his mystique is a draw in my opinion, the guy who conquered Japan and had the greatest matches of all time etc. but instead he's competing in tag matches, and on AEW dark in insanely dangerous stunt matches. I don't get that.
Like I said, I love the show, but if I had any ability to implement the above changes, I'd do so.
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Post by bmfjules on Oct 18, 2019 10:39:33 GMT -5
A great studio show needs a couple of ingredients - the studio itself needs to look professional and not just a hole in the wall with cameras like the old ICW Poffo shows with audience members painted on the walls.
You need a host who has gravitas, cadence and style as well as knowledge - Lance Russell and Gordon Solie are neck and neck as the two best ever as far as this goes maybe a slight edge to Lance because he's literally a one-man show ringing the damn bell and keeping time while doing commentary and conducting interviews, plus he wouldn't take any gruff off of nobody.
You need, and here's the one thing NWA Powerrr has yet to find, a babyface promo to carry the show whether its Dusty or Lawler etc... they have heel promos out the whazzooo.
Ironically, the least important part of the old school set-up may be the actual wrestling. You need some matches, but they are basically tools to get the guys over that you need to get over. People didn't tune into the Superstation to see Flair/Steamboat classics (they'd be dissapointed if they did) they tuned in to see Ric Flair talk them into paying money to watching the big event where that was going to happen.
All that set up to say, I can't pick a favorite, but there are studio shows that clearly dominated in different areas.
Memphis had the best host with Lance Russell while NWA from 85-88 had the best looking set and perhaps the greatest crew of promo guys in the history of wrestling with Flair, Arn, Dusty, Cornette, etc... Although early 80s Mid Atlantic with Ole in his heel prime and a slightly younger Dusty, plus a young Flair and Piper with Gordon Solie at the desk is also a strong contender for best ever as well.
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