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Post by rra on Jun 26, 2007 21:17:48 GMT -5
Yes its selfish, and its honest. Thats why I hate Benoit to hell. The monster killed his own family, and he made me and others feel like lackeys for ever praising his ring work...and his character. You understand betrayal? Why? Did his ring work get worse? He was a great, entertaining wrestler. His ring work should be praised. I would pose that question to myself if I were you. If you feel betrayed by this guy, who you didn't know on any personal level then you don't understand the word at all. You base your opinions of the man on a character he plays on TV, and when he isn't that man, he has stuck a knife in your back? I bet you cried for a week when you found out Gilligan was a pot head and lived in a land locked state huh? I'm sorry, i'm really not trying to be a dick here, but making this tragedy about you is really not cool. Fine, its not about me. With your logic, everyone here is being selfish. Whats with you? Yeah I am selfish with your logic. I'm sorry to be upset. I'm sorry that I cheered and supported (in DVD and T-shirt sales) for kid killer. I'm sorry that I feel guilty for putting him up as an example of "good" people in wrestling compared to say the Hogans or early 1990s Shawn Michaels or what not. I'm sorry for making a point.
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Post by rra on Jun 26, 2007 21:14:47 GMT -5
There are feelings of disillusionment, of betrayal, of disappointment, and of utter shock permeating amongst myself, my fellow crappers, and wrestling fans in general over the last couple of days. The sad facts of the tragedy involving the late Chris Benoit and his unfortunate family. It is hard to put to words the devastating effects of this sad situation. The George Reeves comparison hit things right on the head. In the eyes of wrestling fans, the image of Chris Benoit standing in the ring, confetti raining down, championship belt held high overhead was forever a testament to the rewards of hard work, persistence, and dedication. His close friendships with other wrestlers such as Dean Malenko, Chris Jericho, and Eddie Guerrero stood as touching example of the human nature of the men who we watch and cheer. However, this travesty has reminded us in more stark terms of the volatile quality of that human nature. Violence outside the ring is nothing new. The legal troubles of men like Jimmy Snuka and Steve Austin are well documented. And as heinous as such crimes as they committed are, no one has ever previously reached such dark depths of violence and outrage as the unfolding situation of Chris Benoit has. It has reached us all in a very personal way, to the point that we almost feel as if we have lost some of our faith in the rest of the world. The sad facts of this situation have opened our eyes, and then shadowed them over. I can but express my sincerest hope that we will all be able to banish this shadow away, and renew our faith in each other and in the men who we have so enjoyed watching entertain us for so long. In the end, I say God rest the souls of Chris Benoit's family. And may whatever personal demons haunted this man that compelled him to such a horrible action never fall upon anyone else. Amen. Proper words man, proper words.
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Post by rra on Jun 26, 2007 21:12:04 GMT -5
Nobody is ever going to know what really happened as all the witnesses are gone. Let me throw out a scenario and see what you think. Benoit and Nancy are engaged in marital relations. Things get a little rough and Nancy wants erotic asphyxiation which ends up going to far. Now Benoits knows he will never be able to explain this to anyone. He decides to end his own life rather than go to prison. He doesn't want to have his son go through life having lost his mother and his father, so he incorrectly decides to do him in as well. Obviously, this is just a scenario and not one that I even believe, but you never know whats going on until you walk a mile in someone elses shoes. With your theory, he STILL killed his kid deliberetely. We loved Benoit as a wrestler, but the denials must stop.
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Post by rra on Jun 26, 2007 21:09:26 GMT -5
But remember. Woman was also an entertainer, and in the business for a LONG time, and she's dead wrongfully. We as FANS should respect what happened to her and her child, and really tone down the missing of Chris. You're damn right.
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Post by rra on Jun 26, 2007 21:08:49 GMT -5
You know whats the one feeling that I'm surprised no one else has talked about? Yes I was shocked and upset...and horrified, but you know what FEELING that is dominating my flesh and soul right now? I feel BETRAYED. Benoit was my personal favorite wrestler back in the day, when he and Malenko, Jericho, Eddie G and others wrestled against the glass ceiling of WCW on Saturday Nights. He made wrestling look like a legitimate sport. Like Hart, he made it seem more sport than entertainment. And even as I grew up up to sunday night, I pictured him as a role model of professionalism in skill and in personality behind the scenes. Chris Benoit was what wrestling should be. But he kills his wife and sufficated his own boy....he betrayed me. He betrayed all his fans, he betrayed his own son, and he betrayed me like in a feeling like as if it was a family member doing such a horrible deed. God damn you. Funny how you can take a horrible thing like this and make it about what he did to you. Seems more people are upset about him not being the squeaky clean hero they wanted him to be than the actual terrible act he comitted. That post seems very selfish to me. Yes its selfish, and its honest. Thats why I hate Benoit to hell. The monster killed his own family, and he made me and others feel like lackeys for ever praising his ring work...and his character. You understand betrayal?
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Post by rra on Jun 26, 2007 21:06:25 GMT -5
Not a single person here is disputing that. No one. Just because you're comfortable hating the man doesn't mean some of the rest of us are. See, I think a lot of people are just kind of sticking up for him and using the old religious "turn the other cheek" cliche on him because you liked him as a wrestler. If it had been some average shcmoe that did this, nobody would be saying "Oh we shouldn't hate him... etc etc etc". But I'm with bigstamp, Nancy and the kid were the REAL victims here. Absolutely mate. I think many of us wish it was a triple homicide or roid rage or whatever excuse to get away from the seemingly clear fact now that Benoit didn't do all this at the heat of the moment or was intoxicated. OVER A WEEKEND! What makes me sick is, I had posted this heart-warming memorial thread to Benoit at another website where I wrote my love letter to his great career. Now after learning that he killed his own family, I feel like such an accomplice of a lackey. I almost want to ralph.
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Post by rra on Jun 26, 2007 21:00:21 GMT -5
You know whats the one feeling that I'm surprised no one else has talked about?
Yes I was shocked and upset...and horrified, but you know what FEELING that is dominating my flesh and soul right now?
I feel BETRAYED.
Benoit was my personal favorite wrestler back in the day, when he and Malenko, Jericho, Eddie G and others wrestled against the glass ceiling of WCW on Saturday Nights. He made wrestling look like a legitimate sport. Like Hart, he made it seem more sport than entertainment.
And even as I grew up up to sunday night, I pictured him as a role model of professionalism in skill and in personality behind the scenes.
Chris Benoit was what wrestling should be.
But he kills his wife and sufficated his own boy....he betrayed me. He betrayed all his fans, he betrayed his own son, and he betrayed me like in a feeling like as if it was a family member doing such a horrible deed.
God damn you Chris.
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Post by rra on Jun 26, 2007 20:51:58 GMT -5
I hate Benoit even more, Led into beleiving he's a great guy. Killing his wife, then of all things a 7 year old child. Benoit is one of the greatest technical wrestlers that Professional Wrestling ever known...arguably the best of this era. But as a person, he can burn in hell.
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Post by rra on Jun 26, 2007 20:50:30 GMT -5
Dan Abrahams is clueless...and worse, instead of asking the right questions to divulge some sort of answer to the madness.............he asked whatever questions in order to get the desired answer that he had in mind before the show even began.
Thats the problem with the news media. Whats sad is, Abrahams basically is the "booker" of the MSNBC news division now as a producer (and filling in when the show hosts time to time).
I mean, look at Bret Hart. He couldn't believe it. We as fans couldn't believe it. Abrahams made him out to be like Cutts' friends in that whole other unrelated story.
As for the fiasco of last night, WWE didn't know. We didn't know. Hell, it was until WWE confirmed the murder-suicide that I accepted it as fact.....which was at what, 10 or 11 PM last night? (or was it? Correction please?)
Fact was, that stuff was taped and roughly planned for broadcast before WWE knew of the situation behind Benoit's death.
Let me tell you folks. If Vince McMahon and WWE knew of it before the tribute aired, they would have PULLED THE DAMN PLUG. I am sure of it.
Really, this IS a worse situation than Owen's death. This is worse than the steroid trial in the early 1990s. This is the worst situation that WWE has faced yet PR-wise.
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Post by rra on Jun 24, 2007 21:42:38 GMT -5
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Orton you loser!
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Post by rra on Jun 24, 2007 16:36:30 GMT -5
Hopefully Benoit is ok....and if everything is, but he missed the PPV:
Then they spin it that Punk or somebody mysterious made Benoit miss his plane to make the title match...
Why are you looking at me like that?
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Post by rra on Jun 24, 2007 17:17:58 GMT -5
Am I the only one who would like to see a Sandman/Duggan tag team? Singapore Cane and a 2x4! Yeah, a new tag team............ASSAULT WEAPON!
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Post by rra on Jun 24, 2007 17:04:26 GMT -5
I knew that Sandman would become a jobber to the stars.
Well, at least he's got a job to help support his bar.
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Post by rra on Jun 20, 2007 18:44:20 GMT -5
The REAL question should be...will WWE and Richter ever get together in good graces with each other to make such a thing happen?
In quality? Yes she deserves it.
I mean, what other female wrestlers you know of actually headlined a few house shows for the WWF in the 1980s? Think about it.
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Post by rra on Jun 17, 2007 14:52:18 GMT -5
Eddie G right now about the Latino Ric Flair* for the WWE product, either top guy or sharing that top spot with Rey Mysterio Jr. as the company's hook into the lucrative latino marketplace.
*=That is, over as a hero or heel.
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Post by rra on Jun 23, 2007 13:56:08 GMT -5
I prefer a clean match going right down the middle for the first 20 minutes or so. Then Benoit hits the crossface, keeps it locked in for a solid minute, Punk nearly reaches the rope to break the hold, but Benoit pulls him back to the middle of the ring. Then Punk finally has to tap. Punk being able to withstand the pain of the crossface for so long and nearly reaching the ropes would be a great way to put him over without putting the belt on him immediately. Good idea, and when the Crossface is slapped on Punk, he struggles and exhibits the fact that he brings everything to the match, and never gives up. He passes out, and Benoit wins by KO. Or is that just a litltle TOO much?
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Post by rra on Jun 23, 2007 13:36:43 GMT -5
Considering that the Hardys were on the company magazine COVER recently, it seems that WWE has noticed their insane reception at house shows (including the one I went to months back where they got better crowd pop than Cena) and on TV tapings, and will take financial advantage of it.
If Edge retains and such that Batista can't win the belt, until Edge is dethroned, then on SD! next week, Edge is hyping up of how great he is, how he chased Mr. Kennedy away from SD! and beat him literally into monday night, how he toppled Undertaker with a "clean" pin, how he humiliated Chris Benoit into being drafted onto ECW....
Nobody on SD! can beat him, and Batista will never get another shot at his title sinec there is NOBODY left to fight of his caliber...
*Cue Matt Hardy's music* The crowd goes nuts.
Think if Matt Hardy did pin Edge for the belt, it would open up more programs to work with for the next few weeks. Jeff Hardy can get sissy and complain that his brother won't give him a belt shot, and they split over it.....Batista, freed of the Edge contract condition, wants a shot at the belt....Ric Flair wants to profile another title reign for the last time....Kane wants revenge on Edge for bloodying his brother up...
Oh, and Undertaker returns by Christmas....
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Post by rra on Jun 24, 2007 11:40:44 GMT -5
No heel turn needs to be conducted yet.
ECW is the new WCW Saturday Night, its the dump C-show. Make the general "fat fan who accepts mediocrity as quality"(thanks Chris Jericho) notice of how awesome CM Punk is with an over legend like Benoit.
Then work from there about heel turns or whatever shenanigans.
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Post by rra on Jun 23, 2007 13:40:32 GMT -5
Ummaga given the IC belt does NOTHING.
Absolutely NOTHING.
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Post by rra on Jun 23, 2007 13:25:19 GMT -5
Edge retains the belt. Maybe the DQ situation happens...or refreshingly for once, Edge wins and Batista is screwed from another title shot anytime soon.
I'll be different, and call RANDY ORTON for the Champions Match. Think about it, Cena and Lashley seem the obvious winners, but Orton has been made into an opportunist stalker, the ring story is that Foley and Booker T brawl, Cena and Lashley try to out-superman each other...and Orton picks up the cheap win. Future Triple-Threat match at SummerSlam (Lashley/Cena/Orton)
MVP wins. Beating Flair makes MVP seem more legit as US champion.
Ummaga destroys Santino and the poor Guido wins by DQ, but the monster doesn'tn care as he continues to smash him up. Afterwards, William Regal roughs him up...setting up Regal/Santino feud for the IC belt.
Benoit over Punk, but the young Punk brings it all, including the kitchen sink, to the ring...and definately this won't be the last time we will see these two brawl for the belt. Punk jobs to Benoit, but it makes Punk even better looking in the ring.
Yang wins the Cruiserweight belt, simply to push him on SD!...but it won't matter.
Women's Match - Who cares?
D&D retains....but what legendary tag team would it be? If done right, it would be fun.
Cade/Murdoch retain belts.
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