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Post by George Harrison on Apr 23, 2009 17:25:50 GMT -5
I don't know if this is a viable answer given the topic, but I would think Owen Hart in 1994. Now, I love Owen and think that he was one of the best wrestlers that I ever had the privilege of watching. However, in 1993, Owen was simply a part of a jobber tag team who were lucky to be employed. Then, simply on the merits of his last name, got a feud with the WWE champion!! I'm sure that there had to be some guys in the back that were pretty pissed. I think that they may have had a legitimate argument, so what if one of the other midcarders/main eventers from that era had been plugged into Owen's spot and became jealous of Bret's popularity? That being said, I always thought that "Macho Man" Randy Savage could have pulled the role off, saying how pissed he was that the fans and the WW(F) had forgotten about and abandoned him and got behind the new flavor of the month in Bret Hart. I think it could have been an epic feud. In Bret's book, he says that the office was pushing for a title feud with Bruce, wanting Bruce to be the one that got eliminated at Survivor Series and turn on Bret at the Rumble, but Bret suggested Owen instead. And the rest is history. Wow I never knew that, or even thought about it. Owen was VERY lucky. EDIT: although it was also VERY well done with a great build, particuarly Survivor Series with Owen getting all of the eliminations before his own.
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Post by George Harrison on Apr 23, 2009 14:55:23 GMT -5
I'll never be able to watch another lex luger match. Also, wtf @ this guy noticing & making a video. Who else EVER noticed anything like this in wrestling?
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Post by George Harrison on Apr 23, 2009 14:54:21 GMT -5
It just seems like a habit, plus the fact he is almost naked and is just checking he hasn't fell out lol,
plus, I think sometimes, Wrestlers touch their trunks just to dry their hands. If you've just picked up a wrestler who is sweaty & probably drenched in water & all sorts of oils, you're gonna wanna dry your hands before you pick them up again incase your hands slip for the grease and it endangers the both of you.
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Post by George Harrison on Apr 23, 2009 14:49:56 GMT -5
Has this had any form of longevitiy or have you just picked up on this from the Lockdown PPV? I really don't understand the problem with calling him Daniels. I personally never cared for Christopher, I always thought he'd be better off saying Daniels or Chris Daniels. Daniels is easier for consumption. Christopher Daniels is 5 sylabels and everyone knows most wrestling fans have a problem with anything more than 4. I don't believe there was a problem, just a wonderment. I don't think the amount syllables has anything to do with the fans having a problem with the name. Stone Cold Steve Austic became just Stone Cold, or Austin. The Undertaker because 'Taker, Ultimate Warrior was just The Warrior or Warrior, It's just the way it is, AJ hasnt had a name change but not it doesn't mean we have to call him AJ Styles every time.
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Post by George Harrison on Apr 23, 2009 14:41:00 GMT -5
Butch Reed was supposed to have a big run with the IC title, but that went to HTM. I forget exactly why. Triple H was in line to win KOTR 1996, but that went to Stone Cold after the Curtain Call incident. Sadly, Triple H's career never recovered. Except for the fact that it has. All those posts and no humour lol. I always wanted Janetty, at the time, to get HBKs push, & as a firm current dislike of Batista, I'd have preferred anyone from Jindrak, O'haire & Raines to Rhyno, Abyss or either member of Techno Team 2000. (I know it maybe wouldnt have fitted the story, but I'd have preferred a lot of people over Batista.) I know Batista's over huge, but the one time I cared for him was the run in to his turn and match against HHH, and since then I havent cared for him in the slightest unfortunately
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Post by George Harrison on Apr 23, 2009 14:35:24 GMT -5
Coffin?
ROH isn't dead, it isn't near death. It's a slow time for all of wrestling.
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Post by George Harrison on Apr 23, 2009 10:28:41 GMT -5
There is something in Bret Hart's book about the 'Independence Day Curse' in wrestling, where people either died or got seriously injured for a few years straight on July 4.. Looking around on the net I can't see much evidence but I'm sure there was like 5 successive years where something tragic happened. Adrian Adonis, Moondog Nathan and Joey Marella all definitely died on that day. And Davey Boy Smith was seriously injured in an auto accident on that same day. Same type of accident as the one that claimed Adonis; a van traveling in the Canadian backwoods rolled over to avoid hitting a moose. One strange occurrence that happened after Owen had his fatal plunge: to fill time, they replayed the angles in which Vince was carried out on a stretcher and the Rock bashed in a casket with a baseball bat. There was a huge uproar in the IWC over that lapse in judgment. Was the IWC so big in 1998?
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Post by George Harrison on Apr 23, 2009 10:07:20 GMT -5
The second one isn't really a coincidence, as the term rabid fit his character. It's around the same as saying Shawn Michaels was once a kid who had his heart broken. Considering what Benoit did at the end of his life, I'd consider it an eerie coincidence. I really wouldnt. It just happened that way, Im sure someone said that during a dive out the ring he must have almost killed himself, does that make it a coincidence that he actually did? It's too loose to associate.
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Post by George Harrison on Apr 23, 2009 10:06:01 GMT -5
There is something in Bret Hart's book about the 'Independence Day Curse' in wrestling, where people either died or got seriously injured for a few years straight on July 4.. Looking around on the net I can't see much evidence but I'm sure there was like 5 successive years where something tragic happened. Adrian Adonis, Moondog Nathan and Joey Marella all definitely died on that day. He also mentions the Brutus Beefcake parasailing accident that ended his career (more or less) that also occurred on July 4th. And I heard that the Undertaker was once attacked by a Middle-Eastern-looking Italian and some other "terrorists" on the same day something like that really happened in London . . . this was the 7-7 bombings of 05, not the 4th.
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Post by George Harrison on Apr 23, 2009 10:00:31 GMT -5
Depends on when he had joined Evolution and how he was booked. I could see him and Orton being pushed as a tag team, which would have had the effect of a) Slowing Orton's single's push and b) Effectively putting Flair in the 4 Horsemen-like J.J. Dillion role. But, yes, putting him in that group and having Trips and Flair hammer the industry into his head much the way they did Batista and to a lesser extent Orton (who had most of it put in his head by his father) would have defineltely improved his chances of getting over. It's an interesting thought to imagine him in the Orton or Batista roles. I always liked him, but preferred O'haire & Palumbo to his breed from WCW. It would of course have helped his career, working in main events and being schooled by Flair & HHH, but to compare him with Orton wouldn't be the same as Orton was already taught by his family. Id loved to see anything they have of him during those times though, because at the time I didn't see much in Batista either. I really couldn't see Jindrak beating whoever and winning the world title so young, but back then I couldn't see Orton being who is today so it's a tough cookie.
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Post by George Harrison on Apr 23, 2009 5:43:48 GMT -5
1) Brock Lesnar 2) Sayid Jarrah 3) Duncan Ferguson 4) Richard (Dead Mans Shoes) 5) Antonio Inoki
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Post by George Harrison on Apr 23, 2009 5:37:57 GMT -5
They had a lot of matches during this time on the House Show market. I still have this tape somewhere where this match is on. Gotta love Paul Bearer at home with Paul Bearer segement before this match. I would never want to know what he gets upto with himself!! lol Is it true Lawler & Hogan never fought eachother? & when they were recently, WWE stopped it?
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Post by George Harrison on Apr 23, 2009 5:33:13 GMT -5
Just in case anyone's wondering, the Discovery Channel shot footage of CZW wrestlers executing moves with their special cameras. First the footage was played back at regular speed, which made the moves seem as devastating as you'd see them done live. Next, the Discovery Channel played back the maneuvers in slow motion, explaining step by step how wrestlers cooperate with one another to prevent harm from occurring. The show portrayed wrestling in a positive light, stressing that what the wrestlers do in the ring is truly a 'professional' performance that normal people could not execute without incurring serious damage. Admittedly, the show did end with the Discovery Channel crew cracking jokes about the CZW wrestlers being 'ballerinas,' but on the whole, wrestling was represented in a positive light. Did it show any of the extreme element in CZW?
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Post by George Harrison on Apr 23, 2009 5:31:42 GMT -5
What some of the strange facts / coincidences in the WWE or wreslting in genreal i guess? 1)Chavo uses the frog splash as his finisher, a move he too k from his late uncle and ex tag team partner Eddie Guererro. Eddie took that move from his friend and tag team partner the late Art Barr (i think thats it) Chris Benoit was called the rabid wolverine. Rabies is a disease wwhich sents its victims in sane to the point where they will attack and kill anyone else even those familiar to them and it eventually causes death. And you can see the rest The second one isn't really a coincidence, as the term rabid fit his character. It's around the same as saying Shawn Michaels was once a kid who had his heart broken. But the Eddie - Smackdown game ones were eerie, aswell as the promo WWE had for something, and it said something about "..& they will die..." just as Eddie comes on the screen. This was months before, but there was a thread here I think about it. Sad.
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Post by George Harrison on Apr 23, 2009 5:26:44 GMT -5
She just changed, she became wrestling eye-candy and not the brute she was when she first entered, and then she involved into the woman she became when she battled Ivory.
Not forgetting Ivory was part of RTC, perhaps her character couldn't stick with that. It was kind of what happens with Kong in TNA, she was built so strong that no-one should realistically beat her.
Who did she lose it to?
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Post by George Harrison on Apr 23, 2009 5:23:49 GMT -5
I guess pending on taste but this is funny. Watch between 0:17 and 0:25. Did anyone notice this the first time? I cant watch that for the hate that builds up inside me for 300+ lb men in thongs Lol, I found it funnier when HHH, as mentioned, just stood there after nailing Austin
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Post by George Harrison on Apr 23, 2009 5:20:10 GMT -5
Where was this held? The Echo arena? Good thread man
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Post by George Harrison on Apr 21, 2009 23:29:35 GMT -5
Goldberg in the New Blood, thus turning heelistic.
Tatanka in Million Dollar Corperation
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Post by George Harrison on Apr 21, 2009 23:21:24 GMT -5
In my opinion, Bischoff merely sailed on Vince Russo's sinking ship towards the end of WCW. What he had accomplished in the few years he was on top was very successful,
if I had to vote, I'd vote yes.
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Post by George Harrison on Apr 20, 2009 15:40:23 GMT -5
I never thought much of him, was he not just a lackey in the original ECW?
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