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Post by -Lithium- on Mar 11, 2018 6:03:01 GMT -5
According to Bruce Prichard, Vince wanted the Batista/HHH thing to happen on a random RAW, and HHH said no and that it needed to be built to WM. If true, yet another example of the senile old man being an absolute creative cancer...
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Post by -Lithium- on Mar 9, 2018 16:34:09 GMT -5
Heh.
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Post by -Lithium- on Mar 9, 2018 10:17:30 GMT -5
"WHO SENT THE TEXT" was the WCW "WHO DROVE THE HUMMER" of WWE.
There's no defending Summerslam 2011. At all. Far, FAR and away the best promo guy in the company loses the title to a guy whos only promo was "ET IS MAH DESSSTINNNYYYY". Ugh. f*** off. Then you have a f***ing Kevin Nash return. Also, God forbid the night you're gonna totally (already had started cause they're incompetent idiots who had Punk come back 2 weeks after winning) ruin this amazing angle that Punk get a clean win over the golden boy.
No one in a decade has "grabbed the brass ring" like Punk did in Summer 2011. In one month he went from midcarder to main eventer who THE reason to watch the show every week, and it was based on the work and angle that HE came up with, and they f***ed him over for a Kevin "Shitty" Nash return and a Mexican Conway Pop title reign that ended a month later. That'll teach guys to try. f***ing idiots.
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Post by -Lithium- on Mar 2, 2018 0:55:10 GMT -5
This isn't even remotely close to an opinion based thing. Anyone who says Taker/Cena is delusional. Rcck/Cena is one of the biggest of all time, without question. It was one of the few WM matches that ONLY could have happened at a Wrestlemania. Cena/Deadman Taker happened on an episode of Smackdown in Summer of 2004 and RAW in fall 2006. Its not even close. They're miles apart in importance.
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Post by -Lithium- on Feb 28, 2018 1:26:19 GMT -5
You're Vince. You expanded your Dad's company and made yourself a millionaire by your own booking and the booking and talent of the people who you chose to surround yourself with. You mean the talent who had to fight against the stiflingly bad ideas that did nothing for their careers? The Ringmaster Steve Austin? Blue Chipper Rocky Maivia? Roman Reigns who literally right now has so many vocal detractors whose whole point is "If they could use this dude properly I'd be all over this but this is all wrong". Or what about someone like Kevin Nash who as Diesel was historically speaking a f***ing disaster, but who went on to WCW and become a massive draw, only to never really be used properly back in WWE again. Vince has never been a good judge of how to make talent get over. Austin and The Rock were both singled out as potential big deal but Vince's ability to make it happen wasn't there at all. Vince's ability to push talent has become worse and worse over the years, and now he's in a position where few people are over on what infuriatingly enough feels like his own ideas. He jerks talent around in the booking, nobody gets over, nobody gets to find their personalities and if they try to break out and "grab the brass ring" their hand gets swatted down. If the company doesn't believe in you, you'll spin your wheels. If the company does believe in you, you become the passion project of a man with no idea how to write for his audience. Then when somebody does get over and gets bigger reactions than anyone has in years, Vince buries him on TV, tries to shove him off into a dead end feud where he can puff up Cena's Mania opponent, and makes him dress like a garbageman. And it took not being the bigger man or saying "It's not for me but people love it" or even "I'm in the business of making money and if the fans want him they'll get him". He had to be held at gunpoint and fear his landmark 30th Wrestlemania be booed into f***ing extinction by a hostile audience who wasn't happy. But then what was waiting for Bryan? Reportedly, the Lesnar squash that Cena took where the whole thing was startling in seeing just how brutal it was. The fans were going to watch the guy they cheered and fought to get up to the top be brutalized by Brock so Roman could vanquish him. So nah screw the idea Vince is in any way the bigger man who will make money with someone he doesn't believe in. He isn't actually that good or that decent. He writes a show for him and doesn't really care about anything else, and it actively hurts the product, because he will put out the show he wants to put out even if it's in front of ten people. But then Vince has to go and give fans the finger by claiming he's a "good listener" and insisting someone who was over as f*** couldn't connect with the fans. Exactly. Vince is and almost always has been a creative cancer to his own company. If Vince got his way, Stone Cold and Mankind might have never even been signed when they were. The Rock wouldn't have become a megastar. He falls ass backwards into success and then thinks he did it. Unfortunately since there's not another company kicking his ass like WCW, he can just nitpick and micromanage everything no matter how terrible the creative aspect is. If he likes you, no reaction is bad enough. If he doesn't, no reaction is good enough. If Daniel Bryan got a 1/10th of the boos Roman does on a weekly basis, over the case of a like 5 show, that'd be it for Bryan. It's absolute bullshit. Vince is such a delusional idiot. Took him 9 months to give Bryan the title when he was absolutely, undeniably the most popular face in the company, and it took him 9 months to take this badass character who the fans loved and just ensured that they will never, ever be universally over as top face. The same way he f***ed up Diesel, Lashley, and even Cena. He and his flunkies need to go the f*** away. I seriously can not wait for the day Triple H takes over and things can finally be different and we don't have some senile old man running shit who will end someones push because they did something that day that reminds him of something they dont like. Or whos worried about the verbiage people use. CANT SAY HOSPITAL. ITS MEDICAL FACILITY. No, the f*** it isn't. It isn't any one thing. No one gives a shit about what the announcers call it. Go off and do another absolute failure of a new business you're only trying because you're a delusional fool who can't accept hes nothing more than a massively successful carny.
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Post by -Lithium- on Feb 26, 2018 5:07:16 GMT -5
Gokus like Cena. The guy who just goes along with what the company wants. Not politicking but probably not raising a fuss even when other guys should go over but the company wants him because they're short sighted and think inside the box too much.
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Post by -Lithium- on Feb 20, 2018 2:30:29 GMT -5
Probably lose to a returning Roman Reigns who Vince would totally forgive. Funny, if Daniel Bryan had the most monster push in a decade and f***ed up like that, I can't imagine he'd be forgiven. Reigns though? Oh, water under the bridge. Made his mistake and paid his price. Back to this inorganic loathed monster push. Just absolute bullshit.
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Post by -Lithium- on Feb 20, 2018 2:23:46 GMT -5
I don't think Unforgiven 2002 takes anywhere near as much shit as it should. HLA with Rikishi in drag, RVD being sacrificed at the alter of Triple H, a Women's title squash randomly being Raw's main event for the evening instead of their new belt, and closing the show on a 20 minute borefest that ended in a drawn out DQ. Even Eddie / Edge and Angle / Benoit weren't really anything worth seeing. Didn't Van Dam get a phantom pinfall on HHH during a ref bump? Speaking of said ref bump, didn't Van Dam only lose because Flair turned on him and whacked him with the sledgehammer? I only mention it because I see this brought up a lot and feel there are far worse examples of the 'Reign of Terror' like the Booker T gig or vacating the WHC only to win it back a few weeks later regardless. I have to say, while I loved HHH at the time in hindsight I could definitely see just how f***ing horrendous 02-03 HHH was. A whole show served as a platform for HHH to cosplay as Ric Flair. Clean shaven, with that f***ing abysmal feathered hair and 80s suits. Too much muscle, then too much fat. Just awful. Lightyears behind where he had been 2 to 3 years prior. The Reign of Terror is awful. However, I wish people would cut this "OH HHH JUST BEAT GUYS AND LOOKED TOO STRONG" bullshit. No, he didnt. Not even close. The guy needed outside help on every single big match and his challenger always had some moment where they proved they could beat him. It's just a totally manufactured false narrative.
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Post by -Lithium- on Feb 14, 2018 1:02:33 GMT -5
UGH. Just talk about the f***ing movie. God damn. Not every f***ing review has to have "crossovers" and set up skits.
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Post by -Lithium- on Feb 4, 2018 22:49:42 GMT -5
That's not "wasting" it. They used the streak to make Lesnar a demi-god character. That's what it was used for and it worked. There doesn't always have to be "another rub" after that. Well roman is getting it No, he isn't. This will do NOTHING to change the perception of him. Victories like his over Taker and probably Lesnar mean absolutely nothing when the fans know its for the wrong reasons and hate the guy regardless.
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Post by -Lithium- on Feb 4, 2018 22:45:51 GMT -5
I was kind of disappointed in a way. From day one the series direction was "Mr Chips to Scarface" and I guess I took it too literally. I thought it might end with Walt being much more of a villain. Though outside of maybe killing his family, I can't imagine anything would ever turn Walt into the villain for me. I always wanted Walt to win. I f***ing HATED watching him have to put his hands behind his back and get cuffed by Hank. Though I suppose if it did end like you wanted, there'd constantly be pressure to continue the series. Yeah, that was one of my minor gripes with the show too. Walt aside from poisoning a child I never felt like I should hate him. A villain, whether it's in a film, tv show, video game, or book shouldn't have any form of redeeming qualities. There's a reason why we should detest them and Walt, in my opinion, should've either accidentally killed Skyler or Walt Jr, or to really show how far he's fallen as a human being he should've killed Jesse in the finale to fully transition himself into Heisenberg and thus removing any redeeming qualities. Even like the Brock thing...yes, that was bad. But it didn't even come close to making he think of his as this evil villain. It's not like he planned on killing the kid. He knew what to do and knew that he'd be safe in the end. It wasn't some act of revenge on Jesse or anything, it was for the greater good. Walt did it to kill a guy who had employed child killers and actually threatened to murder his entire family, infant included.
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Post by -Lithium- on Feb 4, 2018 6:12:08 GMT -5
I agree with people being somewhat okay with it at the time but being annoyed once HBK leaves a year later.
Streak should have stayed unbroken. WM 28 was THE ending. The culmination of FOUR Wrestlemanias. Hell in a Cell. End of an Era. HHH and Taker done wrestling. 20-0. Absolute perfection.
I will say that as much as I hated it then, the boost it gave Lesnar as astronomical.
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Post by -Lithium- on Feb 4, 2018 1:56:41 GMT -5
For me I'd have Breaking Bad end with Walt fully living as Heisenberg and continuing his meth empire. I just felt it would've been an amazing, intense, and epic ending if we saw Walt still battling cancer but wearing the hat, shades, and he walks up to a door of an unsuspecting individual knocks and walks away as two men approach afterwards with guns. I was kind of disappointed in a way. From day one the series direction was "Mr Chips to Scarface" and I guess I took it too literally. I thought it might end with Walt being much more of a villain. Though outside of maybe killing his family, I can't imagine anything would ever turn Walt into the villain for me. I always wanted Walt to win. I f***ing HATED watching him have to put his hands behind his back and get cuffed by Hank. Though I suppose if it did end like you wanted, there'd constantly be pressure to continue the series.
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Post by -Lithium- on Feb 3, 2018 17:21:55 GMT -5
I LOVED 2006. The Cena/Edge feud was a lot of fun, and I think I'm one of the few people who unironically enjoyed the McMahons vs. DX. The fact that the Observer voted WWE "worst promotion" that year is just flat out WRONG. DX/McMahons did have moments that were awful (the bbq for example) but was so worth it for the Vince/Shane impersonation. The build to the reunion was epic though. You have Hunter being the total heel toady for Vince and Shane, oddly subservient, and Shawn the never say die babyface in his feud with Vince. The teases between Hunter and Shawn who were enemies in storyline for so long. Hunter missing the sledgehammer shot and hitting Shane, then the following week after Vince demanded an apology, he had two words for them...."I'm sorry". Shawn confronts him and says despite everything he always respected Hunter until that moment. Shawn is taken out by the Spirit Squad. Hunter is going to be forced to join the kiss my ass club via drugging, but he switches drinks so Shane passes out. Vince eats the pedigree. Spirit Squad vs Hunter, 4 of them about to "break his damn neck" as per Vince's instruction. "Mitch get out here". Shawn makes the save, and we get a face off, high 5 and crotch chop. Epic epic epic. I love when HHH is reffing a match and leaves, and as he gets to the stage HBK walks out and both guys look at eachother and then down at the ring with the Spirit Squad, and the fans are going crazy just begging for it to happen. But then HHH just smirks and walks through the curtani Also, the week HHH was to hit HBK with the sledgehammer. HHH takes too long and Kenny grabs the sledgehammer which annoys Triple H. He goes to hit Shawn but HHH stands in the way and then beats up the whole Spirit Squad. In kayfabe HHH only did it cause Kenny disrespected him, but the fans could easily make up their own minds as to why he did. As far as the question. Punks pipebomb to Punks heel turn. I really enjoyed fall of 2011. I loved the whole show wide angle of things just getting out of hand in spite of HHHs best efforts. Also, NYR 06 to ONS 2. Theres a reason they only went below a 4.0 rating once that entire time. Really good stuff. WM 22 is one of the most underrated WMs. 22 IMO is easily the best of the 20s.
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Post by -Lithium- on Jan 28, 2018 21:25:06 GMT -5
Steph. Rumble. Pics. Now.
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Post by -Lithium- on Jan 22, 2018 3:59:55 GMT -5
You could always get that at leatherbydan.com. Its not one of those Shopzone replicas. Not that theres anything wrong with that...
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Post by -Lithium- on Jan 20, 2018 1:15:44 GMT -5
The Invasion has a lot of bad stuff to it, obviously, but it's got some excellent highlights, to the extent to where WWE could probably spin it as having been better than it was through montages and such. (Not that they seem inclined to. WWE, outside of some scattered things, seems very content to not talk about the Invasion after like the moment it ended. Hence Austin and Angle turning face and heel, despite that making ZERO logical sense beyond WWE just saying, "moving on" and dropping it.) I love watching clips of this on YT and reading all the typical comments from idiots about "ZOMG DIS TEH REAL WRESTLIN WWF DA BEST DIS WHEN WAZ GUUD TUPID PGE ERAZ!!1!" shit. There is NOTHING more lazy in like the past twenty years than that. Absolutely nothing comes close. The guy who f***ing saved the company is heel and the guy who tried to kill it is now face. Just unreal levels of awful, lazy writing.
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Post by -Lithium- on Jan 20, 2018 1:10:36 GMT -5
Seriously though, the ice cream bars please. Still on Good Humor to make it. Its not as if its this secret formula only Good Humor knows. Someone else should just make it.
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Post by -Lithium- on Jan 18, 2018 2:19:26 GMT -5
*Static*
*Cult of Personality*
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Post by -Lithium- on Jan 17, 2018 16:52:04 GMT -5
If they just had the shot from behind that would have looked great. The camera cuts turn it shit. Can't Dunn just go away. Dunn is the Beria to Vinces Stalin. The coward everyone hates but has close standing because of how much of a suck up he is. I'd imagine HHH will be Khrushchev and Dunn will be gone shortly after Vince goes away. This Vince/Stalin thing makes sense BTW. WCW is Nazi Germany. Early on in the war a sudden attack gets WWF/USSR leveled and it appears there's no hope, but after many mistakes by Germany/WCW and USSR/WWF learning from mistakes, they end up battling back. Four years after a massive opening shot (Barbarossa/nWo angle start), the war ends with WCW/Germany is decimated. - Battle of Moscow is probably mid to late 97. WCW at the proverbial gates of WWF, but not quite being able to finish them. Just about 9 months later its clear momentum is changing, but both sides are still powerful. - Austin/McMahon match on RAW would be the Stalingrad of the war. - Fall 98 is Battle of Kharkov. Last significant German victories while also suffering big defeats and it being clear they're done for. - Fingerpoke/Foley Win is Battle of Kursk. Last ditch effort by WCW/Germany to turn the tide, and while things look decent for WCW/Germany, a few big mistakes ensure their loss, and after that it was nothing but defeat.
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