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Post by nerdinitupagain on Feb 19, 2009 13:30:21 GMT -5
How odd - they filed for the trademark in Feb 1995. That was around the time that they pretty much retired the character from TV - he'd show up very sporadically after that into 1996. I've always had a theory Vince wasn't worried about trademarking characters until the mid-90's when he realized he could more or less take drawing power out of anyone he created when they left.
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Post by nerdinitupagain on Feb 19, 2009 9:14:35 GMT -5
I always liked Scott Norton in the group.
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Post by nerdinitupagain on Feb 18, 2009 23:18:16 GMT -5
I'm still bitter about 6 or 7 years ago when they were playing some rec center here not punching the guy in the face for his complete and utter doucheyness back then.
I hope I dream tonight that I did it.
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Post by nerdinitupagain on Feb 18, 2009 14:17:01 GMT -5
The real question... What would you rather watch... a Chyna sex tape or two girls one cup?
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Post by nerdinitupagain on Feb 18, 2009 14:14:37 GMT -5
Why the hell is this important? Because people like to look at attractive ladies, simple really. Amen to that. God bless attractive ladies.
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Post by nerdinitupagain on Feb 18, 2009 10:54:27 GMT -5
Because suing every indy guy that uses Doink would take so much money and it has no major effect on his business. It's a profit/loss scenario basically. What does Vince have to gain by stopping tall these Doinks besides protecting his intellectual property?
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Post by nerdinitupagain on Feb 16, 2009 13:34:41 GMT -5
Burn Notice is an awesome show. Bruce Campbell... hell yeah.
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Post by nerdinitupagain on Feb 16, 2009 12:06:52 GMT -5
The surprise roll up has gotten a little boring, but hey... lazy booking is easier than thoughtful booking.
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Post by nerdinitupagain on Feb 16, 2009 10:00:12 GMT -5
Things change in business. Sorry ROH is not a non-profit organization designed to help people that spend a little too much time on the IWC get boners from the same thing over and over.
I'm sure the guy will get some sort of job no matter what with ROH if he does get completely announcing cannd.
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Post by nerdinitupagain on Feb 16, 2009 2:25:19 GMT -5
Few points to answer some various questions in here...
Large stadiums and arenas have umbrella licensing agreements with organizations that collect royalties for live performances... that doesn't mean they can use ANY song they want, but any song they have licensing for. Now, if you put on an event in one of these stadiums you get to use that music for live performance, as well as recordings and broadcasts that include that song. A well known issue was the McCain campaign's use of Barracuda at the Republican National Convention this year when introducing Sarah Palin. The band that wrote the song was furious and wanted to sue because their song was used... however, the arena had the license to use that song so the broadcasts and recordings of that fell under it. However, ROH doesn't exactly run in any of these large venues that have pre-set licensing agreements that are used to get large drawing events in, so they have to sort these things out themselves.
I highly doubt that Ole will go away. The Souls' are no longer an Epitaph band, so any royalties that Epitaph can collect off songs they own will probably be collected no matter how small...or if they care at all. By the way... that song is just so much fun.
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Post by nerdinitupagain on Feb 14, 2009 3:43:52 GMT -5
6.3 million in just wrestlers salaries? Geez. I'd love to get a look at TNA's books to see what their operating expenses are per year... I remember two years ago they were starting to turn a profit albeit small. However, 2 years later their expenses are probably much higher because they've acquired Booker and Angle for near a million... and a lot of their even low card guys are making a really decent pay now. And their ratings are only slightly up and their PPV buy rates only improved on average 2000 each PPV from 07 to 08. I dont' think that extra 48 thousand makes up for it.
But their increased touring probably does help a lot. As well as the merchandise.
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Post by nerdinitupagain on Feb 13, 2009 18:49:09 GMT -5
Well, this is what ECW started doing once they got more popular. Get lesser known musicians to cover their wrestler's themes so they could stay on.
I have a feeling the Souls won't mind having El Generico coming out to Ole...
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Post by nerdinitupagain on Feb 13, 2009 17:08:04 GMT -5
It'll probably be a piece on how they've cleaned up wrestling and are doing a lot to move themselves away from the stereotypes of the 80's and 90's wrestlers who are crippled and dieing like the Wrestler showed.
I can't see Vince allowing ESPN there for a negative piece.
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Post by nerdinitupagain on Feb 12, 2009 22:13:55 GMT -5
Vince has a tried and true, but tired in formula in the authority figures interacting with the wrestlers to a heavy degree. It works, but it's not anything different at this point.
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Post by nerdinitupagain on Feb 12, 2009 12:31:17 GMT -5
And when WWE went to try and license Enter Sandman from Metallica for The Sandman for his brief WWE stay... Metallica remembered and wanted a boat load of money. Imagine just how over ol Sandy would've been in WWE if he still had the theme throughout his run. I enjoy his work none the less, but the man's character is so dependent on that theme and entrance... Doesn't Metallica usually ask for a boat load of money? I don't think it had anything to do with them being turned down in the 90's (which I would like to hear about since I've never heard that rumor before). Metallica usually isn't unreasonable, but they aren't cheap... but they were asking upwards of 1 to 2 million a year for the rights for Enter Sandman from WWE. Traditionally they've licensed out songs like that (Seek and Destroy as example to WCW) for around 150k. The back story on that rumor was that Metallica was promoting Reload, and were willing to play on Raw for free in returns for the typical promotion that one would expect. A lot of the writers, including Russo, were very thrilled of the idea thinking that a live Metallica performance on Raw would be a huge ratings spike... Vince apparently had never heard of Metallica and thought it to be a waste of his time and instead went to who he thought was the greatest band in the world in Motley Crue for a live Raw appearance thinking "If everyone thought Metallica would spike the ratings, then by golly, Motley Crue will do much better" This is probably the first of many Vince McMahon is completely out of touch with popular culture stories that started coming out around the Attitude era and persist to the current day.
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Post by nerdinitupagain on Feb 12, 2009 12:17:46 GMT -5
Wasn't Flair losing left and right before McMahon said his next loss would be his last?
With Christian now on ECW.. it makes the Tommy Dreamer angle seem less likely to be what most of us would want.
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Post by nerdinitupagain on Feb 11, 2009 17:37:00 GMT -5
I still can't believe that he turned down Metallica's offer to perform on RAW for free back in the early 90's. Hold on! Turn around. Remember this thought. Metallica did what? Vince said what?! And when WWE went to try and license Enter Sandman from Metallica for The Sandman for his brief WWE stay... Metallica remembered and wanted a boat load of money. Imagine just how over ol Sandy would've been in WWE if he still had the theme throughout his run. I enjoy his work none the less, but the man's character is so dependent on that theme and entrance...
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Post by nerdinitupagain on Feb 11, 2009 16:48:03 GMT -5
it means a lot actually, going back and watching tapes or dvds or youtube is no substitute for watching the things as they happened and knowing the general concensus of things at the time rather than assuming from what you read on the net, thats not really relevant to this discussion because im sure we all saw austins career unfold but i was simply pointing out that im not some johnny come lately fan like the guy had to imply rather than (or perhaps because he doesnt know how to?) make a well thought out argument austin is a legend no doubt, but it doesnt change the fact that both he and the rock were very limited in what they did in the ring, and thanks for refusing to list the matches for me, i could have sworn i asked the guy i was engaged in a discussion with, but apparently i asked you, my mistake, i dont need to go back and look for austins matches because ive seen countless ones and very few were the technical masterpieces that the guy seems to think he put on and without using my opinion to judge them? what? what am i supposed to use to judge them? someone elses opinion? i know thats commonplace on the net but i prefer to make up my own mind about things i watch sorry I'll list some matches for you then Hart/Austin - Survivor Series 96 Undertaker/Austin - Cold Day In Hell AND Fully Loaded 99 Rock/Austin - WRestlemania 17 Austin/HHH - No Way Out 2001 Austin/Angle - Summerslam 01 That's just to start with... I could go on for quite a while... 3 out of 5 of those matches involve someone who could pull a good match out of anybody. Austin clearly was limited in the ring after his neck surgery, so he played to his strengths after that. That's what a smart person does.
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Post by nerdinitupagain on Feb 11, 2009 11:36:26 GMT -5
Well if they are going after the Briscoes, I don't watch much ROH, but from what I hear.. there's nothing really left for them to do in ROH so a move to TNA could be good for them.
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Post by nerdinitupagain on Feb 10, 2009 17:40:36 GMT -5
Bret Hart appearing on an episode of Raw after leaving the WWF.
Still blows my mind.
Just so all know.. it was the video of how much he disliked Vince.
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