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Post by Mister Yummy on Mar 13, 2008 3:20:49 GMT -5
Does anyone wnopw where I can find one of the rare Ax and Crush tag apperences?
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Post by Mister Yummy on Mar 11, 2008 15:54:20 GMT -5
But those ARE his finishers.
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Post by Mister Yummy on Mar 12, 2008 4:15:15 GMT -5
I call thw world title currently defended on the Smackdown brand the (WCW) World Heavyweight Championship to differentiate it from the WWE World Heavyweight Championship over on RAW. It is, as far as I'm concerened, decended from the WCW Title, after all. I'll add the word "Wrestling" before most wrestling title names if there needs to be a differentiation, or sometimes even if there doesn't.
For reference, here're the names of the other WWE Titles.
World Titles: WWE World Tag Team Championship WWE World Cruiserweight Championship(No longer active :-(...sniff) WWE World Women's Championship
Disputed World Title Status ECW Championship
Undercard Titles WWE Smackdown Tag Team Championship WWE Intercontinental Heavyweight Championship WWE United States Heavyweight Championshi[
and the TNA titles also
TNA Heavyweight Championship TNA Tag Team Championship(neither of these have attained World Title status yet for me) TNA X-Division Championship
NWA World Heavyweight Championship NWA World Tag Team Championship
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Post by Mister Yummy on Mar 11, 2008 15:26:41 GMT -5
I guess some people will complain about anything :-D It had me the most excited I've been watching wrestling in years.
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Post by Mister Yummy on Mar 11, 2008 3:59:08 GMT -5
This was the best RAW I've seen in years. It proves that the WWE can still put on a hell of a show. I had to work while it was on live, but I taped it, and enjoyed it when I got ghome. Let's have a look... Undertaker vs. Mark Henry(Rematch from Wrestlemania 22) Kinda blah Casket Match. Where was the usual Double Wide, Double Deep, Double Thick casket? I kept thinking Edge would be in there. Of all the opponents Taker's had at Wrestlemania, they give him Mark Henry? Well, it could have been worse, I suppose. Dave "Fit" Finlay vs. Ken Kennedy(Rematch from...um...Wrestlemania 31) This must've been the shortest DQ I've ever seen, at 14 seconds! I was guinelly cringing for Kennedy. I hoped the fans would start chanting for him to get up. Jeff Hardy(c) vs. Chris Jericho: WWE Intercontinental Heavyweight Championship(Rematch from...Wrestlemania 25) The match of the night! a **** Classic that I'll never forget. This goes to show the naysayers that this title still means something, and that the WWE can still put on a hell of a match to make it look good. I totally marked out when it said the title was being defended on TV for the first time in months. I marked out more when I saw what a great mastch it was. I cheered for Jericho the whole time, and was very happy that the crowd cheered for him too, at least part of the time. I almost cried when Hardy hit the Twist of Fate, but totally marked out when he missed the Swanton Bomb. I started going "Codebreaker! COEDBREAKER!", and Jericho hit it, and I marked out more. When the ref made the 3 count, I pounded the couch with him. 1-2-3! New IC Champion! What a match! Iron Sheik and Nikolai Volkoff vs. The US Express(Rematch from WrestleMania) I had a feeling this one would happen. I stood up as Volkoff sang the Soviet National Anthem, looking 200 years olf. I grinned as Sheik, looking like he did in 1984 except pregnant, said his totally incoherent promo. I liked how Volkoff had his Face jacket on(US and USSR Flags), but played Heel. When Rotundo and Windham came out, I was disapointed not to hear Real American or Born in the USA. I was really excited to see this match. Then, with horror, cringed as Jillian Hall came out to ruin it. Her singing brought a tear to my eye, as I begged, pleaded, for someone to hit her and stop it. Mike Rotundo became my favorite wrestler when he Airplane Spinned her, and stopped that warbling. Then, I felt extreemely ripped off as they decided to cancel the match. I'm so pissed at Jillian, taking all the time for this great rematch up by singing her bullCRAP. DAMN IT! HHH vs. Kane(Rematch from Wrestlemania XV) This match was pretty good. I liked how Randy Orton changed the complexion of the match when he came out and distracted both men. I really hoped Kane would win, but alas, he did the job for Hunter yet again. Sigh. Melina vs. Maria(Rematch from Wrestlemania 26) Blah. Talentless females. NEXT! Seriously, why couldn't they have Beth Pheonix vs. Victoria instead, if they're just gonna throw random women in there. Big Show and Mayweather's Weigh In. Pure Awesomeness. I guess we know who the heel is now :-D I kept pointing at Mayweather, and telling the crowd "Boo This Man!". I really hope he gets his ass kicked at Wrestlemania. Big Show was in perfect Confident and cocky Face mode, and he played to the audience like a virtuoso. I marked out when his posse came out(see my new, and first, sigpic). I really enjoyed it when he threw Mayweather over toe top rope. JR later said his elbow was injured. I hope it's only kayfabe, since i don't wanna see anybody hurt in the name of my entertainment, but I wouldn't be all that bothered if it were legit. Mayweather is a...well, I won't say what he is here, but he needs to be humbled a bit, doesn't he. I wish Show would have grabbed his money and threw it to the crowd, like Andre did at WrestleMania. I hoped Shane would hit somebody after being pushed down like that. It seemed legit. Edge(c) vs. C.M. Punk: (WCW) World Heavyweight Championship At least I think it was a title match. The announcers never made it clear. There are so many non-title matches these days too... Anyways, this was a good match. A very good effort by both men. This is looking like it'll be Edge's next feud. If he retains against Taker, which I deem pretty unlikely, C.M. may be in line to be the next (WCW) World Heavyweight Champion! I liked how Punk dominated the whole match. I'm really buying into Edge as a main eventer. Finally. Alas, he ended it with his stupid Running Hug Takedown. Why can't he use the Edge-e-cution, or the Edgecator, or the Downward Spiral? All great finishing moves. And he has to lambast that stupid Running Hug Spear. Oh Well. John Cena vs. Shawn Michaels They delivered, as always. At the beginning of the match, I thought they were calling it in. Then, they broke into some great chain wrestling. Micheals worked his experience and speed advantages, while Cena used his power and "overcoming the odds powers" to his advantage. The match had a great pace, and lots of great moments. They told a beautiful story in that ring. Too bad it had to end by DQ. On the bright side, at least HBK won. Not that I'm a Cena hater or anything. I'm just more of an HBK fan. He better enjoy it while he can. If he ends Flair's career, I'll never like that man again. He'll be in perma-heel mode for me from then on. HHH's promo at the end was pretty interesting. Cena and Orton vs. Everyone on the roster?! This could be record breaking. Assuming he means only the actively wrestling males, this will be a 27 vs. 2 Handicap Match. A 29-man-tag! Awesome!
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Post by Mister Yummy on Mar 11, 2008 4:38:18 GMT -5
Why does Taker need a new submission hold at this point in his career? He's already got 2 devestating, high-impact finishers in the Tombstone Piledriver and The Last Ride. He's also got one of the most high impact set-up moves ever in the ChokeSlam. The new move is totally out of character. Plus, unless I'm thinking of a totally different hold, he doesn't apply it correctly.
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Post by Mister Yummy on Mar 11, 2008 15:18:42 GMT -5
Nah, throwing the title around like that destroys it's credibility, and makes it worth less. To strengthen the title, it needs to have a long reign by a dominant champion who defends it regularly on TV and at house shows, but always wins, or maybe has a count out, DQ, or draw every now and again. Like Rick Rude, Mr. Perfect, and the Honkey Tonk Man did, except with a face. Maybe Bret Hart or Ultimate Warrior would be better examples.
I say Jericho should hold the title to at least SummerSlam, defend it every other week on TV, and at every PPV in the mean time, as well as at house shows, and lose it in another **** match like he won it in, possibly to Ken Kennedy.
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Post by Mister Yummy on Mar 11, 2008 4:41:44 GMT -5
Jericho needs to stay face, and make that title mean something again. He could have epic feuds. I'm hoping for the best on this one.
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Post by Mister Yummy on Mar 11, 2008 4:47:45 GMT -5
The OP Is such a mark. The $20,000,000.00 is all kayfabe. I doubt he's getting 1/10 that.
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Post by Mister Yummy on Mar 11, 2008 5:37:06 GMT -5
The titles are defended more than once a month. If you don't like not seeing the defences, go to some damned house shows.
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Post by Mister Yummy on Mar 10, 2008 0:23:57 GMT -5
You want the year Wrestling reigned supreme over entertainment, yet you start your choices in 1997? Come on, man, try again!
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Post by Mister Yummy on Mar 8, 2008 15:47:38 GMT -5
Henry O. Godwin was boaring by gimmick. He was a hog farmer, after all.
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Post by Mister Yummy on Mar 8, 2008 15:09:43 GMT -5
I'm fairly sure the $20,000,000 is a kayfabe figure. Hulk Hogan didn't make that much at Wrestlemania 3.
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Post by Mister Yummy on Mar 8, 2008 3:09:07 GMT -5
This isn't a boxing match though. It's a "MMA Match", which, if Show's match on RAW is any indication, is the same as an old school Boxer vs. Wrestler match. These work well as shoots, but they work better as works. I believe the boxer has to box, and the wrestler has to wrestle, but it may be that they just use a combination of the rules. You can win by pinfall, submission, or knockout.
Show better win. If he doesn't, it'll be the biggest travesty in pro wrestling since Wrestlemania 11. That said, I'm confident he will win, especially if it's a shoot. I really hoped, given Show's boxing training, that it'd be a straight up boxing match, a full fledged shoot. Alas, it seems not. A shoot boxer vs. wrestler match would be great, and even a work will be fine, as long as Show wins.
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Post by Mister Yummy on Mar 7, 2008 16:24:07 GMT -5
I'll be PISSED if Ric Flair loses at Wrestlemania. I'll never like Shawn Michaels again.
I don't know why you all think Flair'll lose. He's been booked to be unstoppable since the career ending stipulation started. I can only hope that'll continue far beyond Wrestlemania.
I fully expect a Ric Flair win at Mania, and wouldn't consider it a swerve. How can who wins a match be a swerve anyways? A swerve is when what they tell you is happening isn't really. They never tell you who'll win in advance.
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Post by Mister Yummy on Mar 7, 2008 16:07:53 GMT -5
Flair wrestled Inoki at Collision in Korea. I know that because I have a promo for the event on tape. Fujinami is the one Flair lost the NWA Title to when he remained WCW Champion in '91. I've already counted those 3 reigns as one, and still only got down to 17.
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Post by Mister Yummy on Mar 7, 2008 3:33:30 GMT -5
I'm not sure where the WWE gets 16 reigns for Ric Flair. I count several more than that. Let's go through them.
His first reign was from 9-17-1981 to ?-?-1982 2nd from ?-?-1982 to 1-6-83 3rd from 1-10-83 to 6-10-83. The NWA doesn't recognise the first 2 losses, and consideres these all one reign. 4th from 11-24-83 to 3-21-84 5th from 3-23-84 to 5-6-84 6th from 5-24-84 to 7-26-86 7th from 8-9-86 to 9-25-87 8th from 11-26-87 to 2-20-89 9th from 5-7-89 to 7-7-90 10th from 1-11-91 to 3-21-91 11th from 5-19-91 to 9-8-91
Ric Flair also became the first WCW World Heavyweight Champion on 1-11-91, holding it until 7-1-91 for his 12th world title. He held this concurrently with 2 of his NWA title reigns, so some may consider them all 1 reign.
Ric Flair won the WWF World Heavyweight Championship on 1-19-92 andh eld it until 4-5-92 for his 13th world title. 14th 9-1-92 to 10-12-92(WWF)
15th 7-18-93 to 9-?-93(NWA)
Ric Flair became the first WCW International World Heavyweight Champion upon WCW's departure from the NWA in September 1993, holding it until 9-19-93, for his 16th world title. 17th 12-27-93 to 4-21-94(WCW) 18th 4-21-94 to 7-17-94 19th 12-27-95 to 1-22-96 20th 2-11-96 to 4-22-96 21st 3-14-99 to 4-11-99 22nd 5-15-2000 to 5-22-2000 23rd 5-29-2000
So, if you don't count the 2 NWA Disavowed reigns, you're down to 21. If you don't count the 2 WCW International reigns, you get 19. Discount the 2 NWA Reigns concurrent with the first WCW Reign, and you're down to 17. I have no idea which other reign they drop.
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Post by Mister Yummy on Mar 7, 2008 4:39:15 GMT -5
Marks think it's real. End thread.
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Post by Mister Yummy on Mar 5, 2008 2:24:11 GMT -5
This angle has been stupid for months, but now it's defying wrestling logic, as well as standard every day logic.
OK, so Fit Finlay plotted with Shane, Stephanie, and Linda to make Vince think Hornswoggle is his son, so he can get at Vince's money, and he's the face?
Vince is swerved, made to believe a leprichaun is his son, grows to love him, and is finally told that he was duped all along, and he's the heel?
JBL finally reveals the truth about a huge swindle, all because it's the right thing to do, and he's also a heel?
The only person whose role makes sence is Hornswoggle. He was duped into thinking someone else is his dad, and he's a face.
Am I the only person this seems bass akwards to?
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Post by Mister Yummy on Mar 5, 2008 2:54:25 GMT -5
I've heard random crap about how "it's in his contract that he never lose at Wrestlemania", but I think that's bogus. It just happened that way at first, and now they keep it going, because it adds to his legend.
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